Am I even Human?
thelostbreed02
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So what's weird is that I lifted for about 2 years now. Possibly a bit more. I started out pretty heavy and about 30% bf according to machines
Now I'm lighter and lower bodyfat. For the past months I've been trying to bulk on an intermittent fasting protocol and I'm pretty sure my body weight is increasing and my physique I think MIGHT be maintaining or slightly improving but somehow the weights I am lifting during my workouts have stalled or DECLINED. For example my bench press and my overhead press declined significantly more than what it used to be...
Am I just weird or infected?
Seriously I'm actually concerned because I wanted to get stronger and put on muscle size
Now I'm lighter and lower bodyfat. For the past months I've been trying to bulk on an intermittent fasting protocol and I'm pretty sure my body weight is increasing and my physique I think MIGHT be maintaining or slightly improving but somehow the weights I am lifting during my workouts have stalled or DECLINED. For example my bench press and my overhead press declined significantly more than what it used to be...
Am I just weird or infected?
Seriously I'm actually concerned because I wanted to get stronger and put on muscle size
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How much you lift?1
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Have you done a deload cycle at all yet? You may have accumulated fatigue that is hiding fitness progress.3
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Could be overtraining, that not only exists but is pretty common with newbies.1
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magnusthenerd wrote: »Have you done a deload cycle at all yet? You may have accumulated fatigue that is hiding fitness progress.
Never unless you call vacation a deload. I try to burn calories to be considered "active "...a deload I feel makes you fall under the sedentary lifestyle tdee factor11 -
thelostbreed02 wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »Have you done a deload cycle at all yet? You may have accumulated fatigue that is hiding fitness progress.
Never unless you call vacation a deload. I try to burn calories to be considered "active "...a deload I feel makes you fall under the sedentary lifestyle tdee factor
The what now?
Which lifting program are you using?4 -
thelostbreed02 wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »Have you done a deload cycle at all yet? You may have accumulated fatigue that is hiding fitness progress.
Never unless you call vacation a deload. I try to burn calories to be considered "active "...a deload I feel makes you fall under the sedentary lifestyle tdee factor
That comment in relation to the "weird or infected" question in your OP definitely leans towards the weird part!
Deload doesn't mean being inactive.
Are you training during the fasting part of your day?
That may be an issue, some people train well fasted, some don't and need to have eaten recently to train at their best, some take an extended period of time to adapt to fasted training.
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thelostbreed02 wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »Have you done a deload cycle at all yet? You may have accumulated fatigue that is hiding fitness progress.
Never unless you call vacation a deload. I try to burn calories to be considered "active "...a deload I feel makes you fall under the sedentary lifestyle tdee factor
That comment in relation to the "weird or infected" question in your OP definitely leans towards the weird part!
Deload doesn't mean being inactive.
Are you training during the fasting part of your day?
That may be an issue, some people train well fasted, some don't and need to have eaten recently to train at their best, some take an extended period of time to adapt to fasted training.
I fast and when I get home I eat and walk to the gym about 10 minutes after which takes prob 20 minutes0 -
Are you using a proven, progressive lifting program?
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thelostbreed02 wrote: »I'm pretty sure my body weight is increasing e
You are literally telling us you don't even know if your bodyweight is increasing or not, which tells us you are absolutely NOT tracking your bodyweight/nutrition. Logic then tells me your tracking of any sort of workout is also sorely lacking, meaning...there's a 99+% chance you're not following an established, progressive lifting program (you've also made it painfully obvious you don't know what a deload is, so after your claimed TWO YEARS of lifting, you probably should do a little research). You have a LOT of stuff you need to get squared-away here.
As a side note...if you are concerned with some sort of "infection" then you prolly need to see your medical professional.
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thelostbreed02 wrote: »So what's weird is that I lifted for about 2 years now. Possibly a bit more. I started out pretty heavy and about 30% bf according to machines
Now I'm lighter and lower bodyfat. For the past months I've been trying to bulk on an intermittent fasting protocol and I'm pretty sure my body weight is increasing and my physique I think MIGHT be maintaining or slightly improving but somehow the weights I am lifting during my workouts have stalled or DECLINED. For example my bench press and my overhead press declined significantly more than what it used to be...
Am I just weird or infected?
Seriously I'm actually concerned because I wanted to get stronger and put on muscle size
20 mins in the gym?? 'might be' and 'pretty sure' actually says you are not sure.
What do you do in the gym exactly? What has your weight done in the past 4 weeks?
Following a structured lifting program? How often do you recover/rest in between your work outs?
What does your protein intake look like in your diet?
Could this eating schedule you are doing through IF be impacting your performance?
Bulking efficiently is the end goal, also need to gauge what your weight is doing too.
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thelostbreed02 wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »Have you done a deload cycle at all yet? You may have accumulated fatigue that is hiding fitness progress.
Never unless you call vacation a deload. I try to burn calories to be considered "active "...a deload I feel makes you fall under the sedentary lifestyle tdee factor
I mean pro bodybuilders Deload but yeah I’m sure it’s not for you6 -
Another thing to consider: You're coming down with a virus of some kind.0
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TavistockToad wrote: »thelostbreed02 wrote: »magnusthenerd wrote: »Have you done a deload cycle at all yet? You may have accumulated fatigue that is hiding fitness progress.
Never unless you call vacation a deload. I try to burn calories to be considered "active "...a deload I feel makes you fall under the sedentary lifestyle tdee factor
The what now?
Which lifting program are you using?
PPL so 6 workouts a week0 -
thelostbreed02 wrote: »I'm pretty sure my body weight is increasing e
You are literally telling us you don't even know if your bodyweight is increasing or not, which tells us you are absolutely NOT tracking your bodyweight/nutrition. Logic then tells me your tracking of any sort of workout is also sorely lacking, meaning...there's a 99+% chance you're not following an established, progressive lifting program (you've also made it painfully obvious you don't know what a deload is, so after your claimed TWO YEARS of lifting, you probably should do a little research). You have a LOT of stuff you need to get squared-away here.
As a side note...if you are concerned with some sort of "infection" then you prolly need to see your medical professional.
The infection part was a joke0 -
thelostbreed02 wrote: »So what's weird is that I lifted for about 2 years now. Possibly a bit more. I started out pretty heavy and about 30% bf according to machines
Now I'm lighter and lower bodyfat. For the past months I've been trying to bulk on an intermittent fasting protocol and I'm pretty sure my body weight is increasing and my physique I think MIGHT be maintaining or slightly improving but somehow the weights I am lifting during my workouts have stalled or DECLINED. For example my bench press and my overhead press declined significantly more than what it used to be...
Am I just weird or infected?
Seriously I'm actually concerned because I wanted to get stronger and put on muscle size
20 mins in the gym?? 'might be' and 'pretty sure' actually says you are not sure.
What do you do in the gym exactly? What has your weight done in the past 4 weeks?
Following a structured lifting program? How often do you recover/rest in between your work outs?
What does your protein intake look like in your diet?
Could this eating schedule you are doing through IF be impacting your performance?
Bulking efficiently is the end goal, also need to gauge what your weight is doing too.
1.5 hours 6 days a week pishpulllegs0 -
thelostbreed02 wrote: »So what's weird is that I lifted for about 2 years now. Possibly a bit more. I started out pretty heavy and about 30% bf according to machines
Now I'm lighter and lower bodyfat. For the past months I've been trying to bulk on an intermittent fasting protocol and I'm pretty sure my body weight is increasing and my physique I think MIGHT be maintaining or slightly improving but somehow the weights I am lifting during my workouts have stalled or DECLINED. For example my bench press and my overhead press declined significantly more than what it used to be...
Am I just weird or infected?
Seriously I'm actually concerned because I wanted to get stronger and put on muscle size
20 mins in the gym?? 'might be' and 'pretty sure' actually says you are not sure.
What do you do in the gym exactly? What has your weight done in the past 4 weeks?
Following a structured lifting program? How often do you recover/rest in between your work outs?
What does your protein intake look like in your diet?
Could this eating schedule you are doing through IF be impacting your performance?
Bulking efficiently is the end goal, also need to gauge what your weight is doing too.
IF could be hurting me I think but I'm paranoid of LOTS of fat gain and hunger pangs when I start eating breakfast0 -
thelostbreed02 wrote: »thelostbreed02 wrote: »So what's weird is that I lifted for about 2 years now. Possibly a bit more. I started out pretty heavy and about 30% bf according to machines
Now I'm lighter and lower bodyfat. For the past months I've been trying to bulk on an intermittent fasting protocol and I'm pretty sure my body weight is increasing and my physique I think MIGHT be maintaining or slightly improving but somehow the weights I am lifting during my workouts have stalled or DECLINED. For example my bench press and my overhead press declined significantly more than what it used to be...
Am I just weird or infected?
Seriously I'm actually concerned because I wanted to get stronger and put on muscle size
20 mins in the gym?? 'might be' and 'pretty sure' actually says you are not sure.
What do you do in the gym exactly? What has your weight done in the past 4 weeks?
Following a structured lifting program? How often do you recover/rest in between your work outs?
What does your protein intake look like in your diet?
Could this eating schedule you are doing through IF be impacting your performance?
Bulking efficiently is the end goal, also need to gauge what your weight is doing too.
IF could be hurting me I think but I'm paranoid of LOTS of fat gain and hunger pangs when I start eating breakfastthelostbreed02 wrote: »thelostbreed02 wrote: »So what's weird is that I lifted for about 2 years now. Possibly a bit more. I started out pretty heavy and about 30% bf according to machines
Now I'm lighter and lower bodyfat. For the past months I've been trying to bulk on an intermittent fasting protocol and I'm pretty sure my body weight is increasing and my physique I think MIGHT be maintaining or slightly improving but somehow the weights I am lifting during my workouts have stalled or DECLINED. For example my bench press and my overhead press declined significantly more than what it used to be...
Am I just weird or infected?
Seriously I'm actually concerned because I wanted to get stronger and put on muscle size
20 mins in the gym?? 'might be' and 'pretty sure' actually says you are not sure.
What do you do in the gym exactly? What has your weight done in the past 4 weeks?
Following a structured lifting program? How often do you recover/rest in between your work outs?
What does your protein intake look like in your diet?
Could this eating schedule you are doing through IF be impacting your performance?
Bulking efficiently is the end goal, also need to gauge what your weight is doing too.
IF could be hurting me I think but I'm paranoid of LOTS of fat gain and hunger pangs when I start eating breakfast
I wonder if your program is the right program for you, this ideally is for intermediate and advanced trainers and you have almost no recovery days built in.
I'd honestly look at recomp instead of bulking as well. Lots of apprehension regarding fat gain, and wonder what body fat % you started your bulk at.
So at this point I am unclear exactly what you are looking for.
Reassess your training and program, recovery and your calorie intake. If the way you eat doesn't work, change it. Taking recovery/rest days is essential to the process, so take more recovery days. Utilize deloading, its a good strategy to use.1 -
thelostbreed02 wrote: »
The infection part was a joke
I wanted to assume so, but the rest of your post was so f'd up I figured it was better to err on the side of caution.6 -
I feel your pain. I cut about 15 lbs last year and all my lifts went down, or stagnated (intermediate, 49 year old, 2 day per week lifter). I've been reading on Barbell Medicine, watching youtube videos by Mike Israetel and Alan Thrall and got a few big takeaways: 1. Up volume 2. Lower intensity 3. Measure both "smarter" via RPE estimates.
Hope this helps... recognize you'll probably need to research these topics like I did. Admittedly, this hasn't helped me yet as I'm just off my cut for 4 weeks and am nursing a slight injury (purposefully not squatting or deadlifting at high intensity).1 -
billkansas wrote: »watching youtube videos by Mike Israetel .
Mike Israetel is AWESOME. Cannot recommend his stuff enough. If you don't have a subscription to RP+ I promise you it's $10 well spent!
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