lx1x wrote: »
Lo mein with dumplings it looks like
marshmallowhunter wrote: »
If I just search that, will packaged meals I find in the database be likely to have similar enough portions that selecting one would be a good estimate, or should I try to estimate how much chow mein, sesame chicken (I think), and dumpling is in the dish, and log them individually?
atgnat1 wrote: »
I didn't think it was even legal to sell packaged food without at least an ingredients list...
Mbierschbach wrote: »
This forum is usually pretty "judgement free" so I'll be honest while trying to be gentle. The short answer is: "don't eat that." That's how you avoid this conundrum.
If you can't even imagine how to approximate what's in what you're eating, why would you put it in your body? So often we're surprised when we look at some kind of restaurant meal/portion: "OMG this dish has THAT many calories?" You're setting yourself up here for that kind of surprise.
You could get that same KIND of food (this is where I/we don't judge your choices) by going to a number of national chains that do publish their calorie counts based on their serving size. Your best bet is to check one of those (Panda Express, Magic Wok, etc.) and do your best to sub in a like for like. If they have a lo mein side, a portion of orange chicken, etc - you can get close.
wilson10102018 wrote: »
OK, let's review the objective. Calorie counting works because the continuous logging trains us to make better food choices. It does this by us having to manage a daily limit on calories within traditional foods. But, some things have to fall out of the rotation depending on one's overall goals and calorie limits if this is to work. A person on a 1400 calorie diet just can't eat a serving of General Tso's chicken at 900 calories.
Now we have some people here who are stubbornly adhered to the belief that nothing can be taken out of the rotation and they hang on to their beloved high calorie dishes such as pizza, lasagna, etc. Then they post recipes for putting ground cauliflower in the lasagna so it has 800 calories instead of 1000.
If one wants to lose some weight and then gain it back, just go on a diet of stuff you don't really want to eat until you lose the weight. Then you can gain it back.
If you want to lose it forever, let the process train the highest calorie foods out off the rotation. Hence, the legitimacy of "Don't eat that."
wilson10102018 wrote: »
Years ago, I did some credit counseling for wealthy people who were clients of the CPA firm I worked at (yes, people with high income can get into some pretty serious credit problems).
The only thing that worked was logging spending at or as contemporaneously as possible to the point of purchase. Mom has to come out of Macy's and write that $300 of makeup on the log which shows a budget for "Personal Care" items of $500 per month.
It was the only thing that worked. I did dozens of them.
There are two parts: Losing weight and keeping it off.
So, I'm on board with eating 300 calories of ice cream or whatnot. But, there are just some things that have to get dropped off the rotation if successful food habits are to be developed and sustained. Habits become preferences. The OP's dish above is one of those that should not be retained. High calorie AFF.
And, trust that eventually you can actually prefer the Lemon Italian Ice at 120 calories per cup to the Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream at 550 calories per cup.
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