Protein drinks :: Plexus Lean vs 310 nutrition
Kathy1253
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So I am on the fence about doing the Plexus Lean vs the 310 Nutrition. The Lean definitely tastes better. . Anyone know which is better for you. Which are healthier and which help with weight loss better.
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Neither. Weight loss comes from a calorie deficit. If you feel like you must have a protein drink vs. having whole foods that are high in protein, go by what tastes good to you and what you can afford.8
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I'm a label reader, both of those products are relatively the same according to the labels. The Plexus is 2 scoops per serving vs 1 scoop of the 310, if that matters to you.
I personally love the Chocolate Premier Protein shakes...good stuff that shuts up my sweet tooth.
Weight loss is another animal, as runnermom419 mentioned. Whatever fits in your calorie budget.2 -
I prefer Premier Protein myself. I don’t know what 310 is but be wary of Plexus or something being sold by an independent rep. Not b/c the product is bad, but b/c they will never tell you about the after. They are marketing reps. Better to incorporate protein drinks into your day or diet b/c you’re in a pinch, need a light meal or snack or desire something sweet but with whole foods and protein sources than just protein drinks. We can’t drink protein drinks the rest of our lives. Do you really want to?
Find ways to enjoy foods in a new way and use protein drinks for a daily breakfast, etc.
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I agree with the Premier Protein also. I will drink one if in a bind for protein. I don't use it for meal replacement. I eat real food for that.1
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I know you want a comment review between two protein shakes. I am here to say that protein shakes are hard on kidneys so be careful.10
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Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »I know you want a comment review between two protein shakes. I am here to say that protein shakes are hard on kidneys so be careful.
I know that excessive protein consumption is a bad idea for people with kidney disease, but I'm not familiar with the evidence that protein shakes are hard on kidneys.2 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »I know you want a comment review between two protein shakes. I am here to say that protein shakes are hard on kidneys so be careful.
I know that excessive protein consumption is a bad idea for people with kidney disease, but I'm not familiar with the evidence that protein shakes are hard on kidneys.
If you want more information about it, you are free to do a research about it.
Red meat is hard on kidneys too and may lead to gout development. So best to eat red meat maybe once a month.12 -
Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »I know you want a comment review between two protein shakes. I am here to say that protein shakes are hard on kidneys so be careful.
I know that excessive protein consumption is a bad idea for people with kidney disease, but I'm not familiar with the evidence that protein shakes are hard on kidneys.
If you want more information about it, you are free to do a research about it.
Red meat is hard on kidneys too and may lead to gout development. So best to eat red meat maybe once a month.
I did attempt to do some research, my initial Googling indicated that it may be a myth so I decided to ask you what evidence convinced you. Since you already have evidence for your claim, it may be faster than me trying to find it.
I've never heard that red meat should be limited to once a month -- what specifically about red meat is hard on the kidneys?5 -
janejellyroll wrote: »Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »I know you want a comment review between two protein shakes. I am here to say that protein shakes are hard on kidneys so be careful.
I know that excessive protein consumption is a bad idea for people with kidney disease, but I'm not familiar with the evidence that protein shakes are hard on kidneys.
If you want more information about it, you are free to do a research about it.
Red meat is hard on kidneys too and may lead to gout development. So best to eat red meat maybe once a month.
I did attempt to do some research, my initial Googling indicated that it may be a myth so I decided to ask you what evidence convinced you. Since you already have evidence for your claim, it may be faster than me trying to find it.
I've never heard that red meat should be limited to once a month -- what specifically about red meat is hard on the kidneys?
The only info I could find is that red meat is bad for your kidneys IF you have kidney disease, and that protein powder may be bad for the kidneys if it contributes to a consistently high protein diet. Everything else was on the typical article farm/click-bait sites with lots of "may"s, "might"s, and "if"s.
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OP, neither of those drinks are healthy or unhealthy, they're just protein shakes. If your diet is low in protein and you are looking for a way to get more without a big calorie hit, you can use any protein powder. Plexus products are overpriced MLM products, I've never heard of the other one. Many people here recommend Premier Protein, My Protein, Optimum Nutrition, and Trutein and I'd bet they're all less expensive. Weight loss requires a calorie deficit :drinker:5 -
Well, plexus has had multiple lawsuits for lead poisoning, so you really can't trust their label.1
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janejellyroll wrote: »Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »I know you want a comment review between two protein shakes. I am here to say that protein shakes are hard on kidneys so be careful.
I know that excessive protein consumption is a bad idea for people with kidney disease, but I'm not familiar with the evidence that protein shakes are hard on kidneys.
If you want more information about it, you are free to do a research about it.
Red meat is hard on kidneys too and may lead to gout development. So best to eat red meat maybe once a month.
I did attempt to do some research, my initial Googling indicated that it may be a myth so I decided to ask you what evidence convinced you. Since you already have evidence for your claim, it may be faster than me trying to find it.
I've never heard that red meat should be limited to once a month -- what specifically about red meat is hard on the kidneys?
The only info I could find is that red meat is bad for your kidneys IF you have kidney disease, and that protein powder may be bad for the kidneys if it contributes to a consistently high protein diet. Everything else was on the typical article farm/click-bait sites with lots of "may"s, "might"s, and "if"s.
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OP, neither of those drinks are healthy or unhealthy, they're just protein shakes. If your diet is low in protein and you are looking for a way to get more without a big calorie hit, you can use any protein powder. Plexus products are overpriced MLM products, I've never heard of the other one. Many people here recommend Premier Protein, My Protein, Optimum Nutrition, and Trutein and I'd bet they're all less expensive. Weight loss requires a calorie deficit :drinker:
It's just something I have learned taking nutrition class. Best is to just drink water and get protein from real protein source, meat, but moderate red meat because as I said it's also hard on kidneys and it also can lead gout development.6 -
Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »I know you want a comment review between two protein shakes. I am here to say that protein shakes are hard on kidneys so be careful.
I know that excessive protein consumption is a bad idea for people with kidney disease, but I'm not familiar with the evidence that protein shakes are hard on kidneys.
If you want more information about it, you are free to do a research about it.
Red meat is hard on kidneys too and may lead to gout development. So best to eat red meat maybe once a month.
I did attempt to do some research, my initial Googling indicated that it may be a myth so I decided to ask you what evidence convinced you. Since you already have evidence for your claim, it may be faster than me trying to find it.
I've never heard that red meat should be limited to once a month -- what specifically about red meat is hard on the kidneys?
The only info I could find is that red meat is bad for your kidneys IF you have kidney disease, and that protein powder may be bad for the kidneys if it contributes to a consistently high protein diet. Everything else was on the typical article farm/click-bait sites with lots of "may"s, "might"s, and "if"s.
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OP, neither of those drinks are healthy or unhealthy, they're just protein shakes. If your diet is low in protein and you are looking for a way to get more without a big calorie hit, you can use any protein powder. Plexus products are overpriced MLM products, I've never heard of the other one. Many people here recommend Premier Protein, My Protein, Optimum Nutrition, and Trutein and I'd bet they're all less expensive. Weight loss requires a calorie deficit :drinker:
It's just something I have learned taking nutrition class. Best is to just drink water and get protein from real protein source, meat, but moderate red meat because as I said it's also hard on kidneys and it also can lead gout development.
Protein shakes contain real protein, your body processes the protein just as it would protein from dairy, meat, or legumes.
Nutrition classes can vary in quality, some of them are great and some of them spread misinformation. This sounds like a claim for which there isn't very good evidence and that makes me think it is probably misinformation.5 -
So I am on the fence about doing the Plexus Lean vs the 310 Nutrition. The Lean definitely tastes better. . Anyone know which is better for you. Which are healthier and which help with weight loss better.
They're just protein supplements...not sure what you mean by which is better for you, it's just protein. Protein supplements do nothing for weight loss...they just supplement your protein intake if you're not getting enough with other food sources.2 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »So I am on the fence about doing the Plexus Lean vs the 310 Nutrition. The Lean definitely tastes better. . Anyone know which is better for you. Which are healthier and which help with weight loss better.
They're just protein supplements...not sure what you mean by which is better for you, it's just protein. Protein supplements do nothing for weight loss...they just supplement your protein intake if you're not getting enough with other food sources.
If it's just like protein found in food we eat, then why protein shakes are not allowed in competitive sports like olympics. If you think about it they should need protein shakes more than anyone since they are doing vigorous training.6 -
Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »So I am on the fence about doing the Plexus Lean vs the 310 Nutrition. The Lean definitely tastes better. . Anyone know which is better for you. Which are healthier and which help with weight loss better.
They're just protein supplements...not sure what you mean by which is better for you, it's just protein. Protein supplements do nothing for weight loss...they just supplement your protein intake if you're not getting enough with other food sources.
If it's just like protein found in food we eat, then why protein shakes are not allowed in competitive sports like olympics. If you think about it they should need protein shakes more than anyone since they are doing vigorous training.
Where'd you get that tidbit? That isn't true at all.5 -
Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »So I am on the fence about doing the Plexus Lean vs the 310 Nutrition. The Lean definitely tastes better. . Anyone know which is better for you. Which are healthier and which help with weight loss better.
They're just protein supplements...not sure what you mean by which is better for you, it's just protein. Protein supplements do nothing for weight loss...they just supplement your protein intake if you're not getting enough with other food sources.
If it's just like protein found in food we eat, then why protein shakes are not allowed in competitive sports like olympics. If you think about it they should need protein shakes more than anyone since they are doing vigorous training.
I'm not sure that's even true, but if it is, it's because there is an overabundance of caution that some protein supplements might also contain other substances due to poor quality control that could cause an athlete to test positive for something. Something being banned from the Olympics isn't always about health, it's about getting a competitive edge.
You can look at the ingredients on a protein powder to see what it is. Whey is a dairy protein from milk. It's in all (or at least most?) dairy products.4 -
Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »So I am on the fence about doing the Plexus Lean vs the 310 Nutrition. The Lean definitely tastes better. . Anyone know which is better for you. Which are healthier and which help with weight loss better.
They're just protein supplements...not sure what you mean by which is better for you, it's just protein. Protein supplements do nothing for weight loss...they just supplement your protein intake if you're not getting enough with other food sources.
If it's just like protein found in food we eat, then why protein shakes are not allowed in competitive sports like olympics. If you think about it they should need protein shakes more than anyone since they are doing vigorous training.
Precisely which sports organising bodies have banned them?
Might be worth you checking out the WADA list of prohibited substances because I can't find any references to protein or whey being prohibited.
If they banned whey protein shakes then surely they would have to ban dairy products too?
Protein shakes are food, just liquid food. Often derived from whey but many other alternatives are available.
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Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »I know you want a comment review between two protein shakes. I am here to say that protein shakes are hard on kidneys so be careful.
I know that excessive protein consumption is a bad idea for people with kidney disease, but I'm not familiar with the evidence that protein shakes are hard on kidneys.
If you want more information about it, you are free to do a research about it.
Red meat is hard on kidneys too and may lead to gout development. So best to eat red meat maybe once a month.
I did attempt to do some research, my initial Googling indicated that it may be a myth so I decided to ask you what evidence convinced you. Since you already have evidence for your claim, it may be faster than me trying to find it.
I've never heard that red meat should be limited to once a month -- what specifically about red meat is hard on the kidneys?
The only info I could find is that red meat is bad for your kidneys IF you have kidney disease, and that protein powder may be bad for the kidneys if it contributes to a consistently high protein diet. Everything else was on the typical article farm/click-bait sites with lots of "may"s, "might"s, and "if"s.
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OP, neither of those drinks are healthy or unhealthy, they're just protein shakes. If your diet is low in protein and you are looking for a way to get more without a big calorie hit, you can use any protein powder. Plexus products are overpriced MLM products, I've never heard of the other one. Many people here recommend Premier Protein, My Protein, Optimum Nutrition, and Trutein and I'd bet they're all less expensive. Weight loss requires a calorie deficit :drinker:
It's just something I have learned taking nutrition class. Best is to just drink water and get protein from real protein source, meat, but moderate red meat because as I said it's also hard on kidneys and it also can lead gout development.
I get kidney stones and my urologist has never told me to limit red meat or limit the amount of protein that I eat (or drink as the case may be). The only info that I can find that supports your argument is to limit protein for people who have a pre-existing kidney issues like limited kidney functionality - not for people who have healthy kidneys.2 -
Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »
It's just something I have learned taking nutrition class. Best is to just drink water and get protein from real protein source, meat, but moderate red meat because as I said it's also hard on kidneys and it also can lead gout development.
Here are 3 studies, just offhand, that prove otherwise:
Ko GJ, Obi Y, Tortorici AR, Kalantar-Zadeh K. Dietary protein intake and chronic kidney disease. Curr Opin Clin
Nutr Metab Care. 2017 Jan;20(1):77-85. Review.
Aparicio M. Protein intake and chronic kidney disease: literature review, 2003 to 2008. J Ren Nutr. 2009 Sep;19(5
Suppl):S5-8.
Friedman AN. High-protein diets: potential effects on the kidney in renal health and disease. Am J Kidney Dis. 2004
Dec;44(6):950-62. Review.
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Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »
If it's just like protein found in food we eat, then why protein shakes are not allowed in competitive sports like olympics. If you think about it they should need protein shakes more than anyone since they are doing vigorous training.
Please show me specifically where the WADA has banned protein supplementation
https://www.wada-ama.org/en/content/what-is-prohibited
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I am done arguing about this. All I can say is if you are able to consume protein from food source then you don't need protein shakes.
Now, if you're old with no teeth and can't chew meat anymore or you have cancer and have no appetite, I would difinitely understand consuming protein Ensure.
I just see people drinking protein shake like water, especially gym goers. If you are already eating meat, having protein shake is redundant. Excessive protein intake can lead to kidney failure (fyi, kidney failure is different from having kidney stones). If your trying to be healthy, I don't understand chancing on destroying your kidneys in the process. Now if you tell me "well that's only for excessive consuption of protein shakes." Well whats the deference between moderation or having it excesive. Is once a day too much, once a week or once a month- we don't know.
And for olympic atheletes, several athletes got banned from sports for failing their labs and they blame their supplement for it. So now, most olympians just don't take any supplements, they stay away especially with protein shake. Olympic athletes, depends on the sports, normally do carb loading more than anything. They are more concern of consumming carbs than protein.9 -
Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »I am done arguing about this. All I can say is if you are able to consume protein from food source then you don't need protein shakes.
Now, if you're old with no teeth and can't chew meat anymore or you have cancer and have no appetite, I would difinitely understand consuming protein Ensure.
I just see people drinking protein shake like water, especially gym goers. If you are already eating meat, having protein shake is redundant. Excessive protein intake can lead to kidney failure (fyi, kidney failure is different from having kidney stones). If your trying to be healthy, I don't understand chancing on destroying your kidneys in the process. Now if you tell me "well that's only for excessive consuption of protein shakes." Well whats the deference between moderation or having it excesive. Is once a day too much, once a week or once a month- we don't know.
And for olympic atheletes, several athletes got banned from sports for failing their labs and they blame their supplement for it. So now, most olympians just don't take any supplements, they stay away especially with protein shake. Olympic athletes, depends on the sports, normally do carb loading more than anything. They are more concern of consumming carbs than protein.
Read Examine.com where they list the top 19 myths for 2019 -
Myth 1: Protein is bad for your bones and kidneys
Read it, read the scientific studies linked that directly contradict your views. https://examine.com/nutrition/awful-nutrition-myths/
You are horribly misinformed, whey is food. Just like milk is food.
No athletes don't stay away from protein supplementation, they are the biggest subset of the populations likely to need higher levels of protein. What athletes do is ensure they take uncontaminated supplements.9 -
Daisy_Girl2019 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »So I am on the fence about doing the Plexus Lean vs the 310 Nutrition. The Lean definitely tastes better. . Anyone know which is better for you. Which are healthier and which help with weight loss better.
They're just protein supplements...not sure what you mean by which is better for you, it's just protein. Protein supplements do nothing for weight loss...they just supplement your protein intake if you're not getting enough with other food sources.
If it's just like protein found in food we eat, then why protein shakes are not allowed in competitive sports like olympics. If you think about it they should need protein shakes more than anyone since they are doing vigorous training.
Protein shakes aren't banned for Olympic athletes. Please consider that you've been given some misinformation.4
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