Fueling long morning runs

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  • 7lenny7
    7lenny7 Posts: 3,498 Member
    beerfoamy wrote: »
    beerfoamy wrote: »

    Now I have a goal of running a half without fuelling!! :# thanks @TavistockToad :#

    Why?!

    I don't know lol - competitive streak?

    well, as the Americans say, have at it!!! :drinker: but the reason i do fuel them now is to make it a less miserable experience....!

    Seriously. Could I run a half unfueled? Probably.

    Does it end well? Not usually. I *like* remembering how to put on pants.

    (I know people are all "but you carry enough glycogen stores to fuel a half!" I typically don't -- I'm not low carb/keto, but I'm lower than the SAD, and average 130 gm or less of carb a day... I was *shocked* at a recommendation I saw in Runners' World to eat something like 4 gm of carb per pound of body weight when pre-half carb loading, and I was all... OMG, I barely eat half of that when I load.)

    Carb loading for a half? That seems quite unnecessary.

  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    beerfoamy wrote: »
    beerfoamy wrote: »

    Now I have a goal of running a half without fuelling!! :# thanks @TavistockToad :#

    Why?!

    I don't know lol - competitive streak?

    well, as the Americans say, have at it!!! :drinker: but the reason i do fuel them now is to make it a less miserable experience....!

    Seriously. Could I run a half unfueled? Probably.

    Does it end well? Not usually. I *like* remembering how to put on pants.

    (I know people are all "but you carry enough glycogen stores to fuel a half!" I typically don't -- I'm not low carb/keto, but I'm lower than the SAD, and average 130 gm or less of carb a day... I was *shocked* at a recommendation I saw in Runners' World to eat something like 4 gm of carb per pound of body weight when pre-half carb loading, and I was all... OMG, I barely eat half of that when I load.)

    Carb loading for a half? That seems quite unnecessary.

    It's fun though! :laugh:
  • DX2JX2
    DX2JX2 Posts: 1,921 Member
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    beerfoamy wrote: »
    beerfoamy wrote: »

    Now I have a goal of running a half without fuelling!! :# thanks @TavistockToad :#

    Why?!

    I don't know lol - competitive streak?

    well, as the Americans say, have at it!!! :drinker: but the reason i do fuel them now is to make it a less miserable experience....!

    Seriously. Could I run a half unfueled? Probably.

    Does it end well? Not usually. I *like* remembering how to put on pants.

    (I know people are all "but you carry enough glycogen stores to fuel a half!" I typically don't -- I'm not low carb/keto, but I'm lower than the SAD, and average 130 gm or less of carb a day... I was *shocked* at a recommendation I saw in Runners' World to eat something like 4 gm of carb per pound of body weight when pre-half carb loading, and I was all... OMG, I barely eat half of that when I load.)

    Carb loading for a half? That seems quite unnecessary.

    You've got it backwards. We don't carb load so we can run the half. We run the half so we can carb load!
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    DX2JX2 wrote: »
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    beerfoamy wrote: »
    beerfoamy wrote: »

    Now I have a goal of running a half without fuelling!! :# thanks @TavistockToad :#

    Why?!

    I don't know lol - competitive streak?

    well, as the Americans say, have at it!!! :drinker: but the reason i do fuel them now is to make it a less miserable experience....!

    Seriously. Could I run a half unfueled? Probably.

    Does it end well? Not usually. I *like* remembering how to put on pants.

    (I know people are all "but you carry enough glycogen stores to fuel a half!" I typically don't -- I'm not low carb/keto, but I'm lower than the SAD, and average 130 gm or less of carb a day... I was *shocked* at a recommendation I saw in Runners' World to eat something like 4 gm of carb per pound of body weight when pre-half carb loading, and I was all... OMG, I barely eat half of that when I load.)

    Carb loading for a half? That seems quite unnecessary.

    You've got it backwards. We don't carb load so we can run the half. We run the half so we can carb load!

    Correct! :drinker:
  • RunnerGirl238
    RunnerGirl238 Posts: 448 Member
    2-3 dates and a 1tbsp of almond butter, half a banana, 16 to 24 oz of water and a lot of coffee...45 minutes or so before the run

    Espresso love Gu at 6 miles and 11 miles. I take in a lot of water/Gatorade during long runs.

    The days before, i ramp up my carb in take- toast for breakfast with my normal eggs, dessert the night before....my pre race dinner meal is usually pizza.

    My goal for next half is 2:10....so we shall see.

    Everyone is different. The only think i know for sure is that grain based fuel does NOT help me for long runs. Experiment.
  • 7lenny7
    7lenny7 Posts: 3,498 Member
    DX2JX2 wrote: »
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    beerfoamy wrote: »
    beerfoamy wrote: »

    Now I have a goal of running a half without fuelling!! :# thanks @TavistockToad :#

    Why?!

    I don't know lol - competitive streak?

    well, as the Americans say, have at it!!! :drinker: but the reason i do fuel them now is to make it a less miserable experience....!

    Seriously. Could I run a half unfueled? Probably.

    Does it end well? Not usually. I *like* remembering how to put on pants.

    (I know people are all "but you carry enough glycogen stores to fuel a half!" I typically don't -- I'm not low carb/keto, but I'm lower than the SAD, and average 130 gm or less of carb a day... I was *shocked* at a recommendation I saw in Runners' World to eat something like 4 gm of carb per pound of body weight when pre-half carb loading, and I was all... OMG, I barely eat half of that when I load.)

    Carb loading for a half? That seems quite unnecessary.

    You've got it backwards. We don't carb load so we can run the half. We run the half so we can carb load!

    Thank you, @DX2JX2 and @TavistockToad for correcting me. You are absolutely right, of course!

    Is post-race carb loading ok? I've got a 50 mile race in 11 days and I don't think I can carb load sufficiently before the race so I'm thinking I should retroactively carb load that night and the next day.
  • autumnblade75
    autumnblade75 Posts: 1,661 Member
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    DX2JX2 wrote: »
    You've got it backwards. We don't carb load so we can run the half. We run the half so we can carb load!

    Thank you, @DX2JX2 and @TavistockToad for correcting me. You are absolutely right, of course!

    Is post-race carb loading ok? I've got a 50 mile race in 11 days and I don't think I can carb load sufficiently before the race so I'm thinking I should retroactively carb load that night and the next day.

    This is my preferred method, too. I find it easier to run without all that food weighing me down, but I am all in favor of replacing the stores once the race is run.

  • DX2JX2
    DX2JX2 Posts: 1,921 Member
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    DX2JX2 wrote: »
    7lenny7 wrote: »
    beerfoamy wrote: »
    beerfoamy wrote: »

    Now I have a goal of running a half without fuelling!! :# thanks @TavistockToad :#

    Why?!

    I don't know lol - competitive streak?

    well, as the Americans say, have at it!!! :drinker: but the reason i do fuel them now is to make it a less miserable experience....!

    Seriously. Could I run a half unfueled? Probably.

    Does it end well? Not usually. I *like* remembering how to put on pants.

    (I know people are all "but you carry enough glycogen stores to fuel a half!" I typically don't -- I'm not low carb/keto, but I'm lower than the SAD, and average 130 gm or less of carb a day... I was *shocked* at a recommendation I saw in Runners' World to eat something like 4 gm of carb per pound of body weight when pre-half carb loading, and I was all... OMG, I barely eat half of that when I load.)

    Carb loading for a half? That seems quite unnecessary.

    You've got it backwards. We don't carb load so we can run the half. We run the half so we can carb load!

    Thank you, @DX2JX2 and @TavistockToad for correcting me. You are absolutely right, of course!

    Is post-race carb loading ok? I've got a 50 mile race in 11 days and I don't think I can carb load sufficiently before the race so I'm thinking I should retroactively carb load that night and the next day.

    For 50 miles you can eat whatever the hell you want.
  • corriepelc
    corriepelc Posts: 2,088 Member
    I'm currently in training for my fifth half marathon, and every Saturday morning is my long run morning.

    Unless I'm running more than 8 miles, I find I don't have to eat anything before I run. For runs longer than 8 miles, I eat three slices of Trader Joe's gluten free cinnamon raisin bread (I'm allergic to gluten) with butter and a sprinkle of real sugar. I find it gives me enough carbs and sugars to get me through the first 7-8 miles of the run. And then I fuel during the run/race with a GF Honey Stinger Waffle.

    For half-marathons, I start to pre-fuel two days ahead of time. Two days before I'll start to slowly increase my carb intake. And the day before, I eat mainly carbs and have something very carb-heavy for dinner, like my husband's homemade GF pizza. :)

    Like everyone said, everyone's bodies are different. You just have to find what works best for you through trial and error.
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