So I understand abs start in the kitchen and I have been working on it and continue. I'm am getting to the point where I can see a 4 pack but my goal is to have fully defined abs. Does anyone have routines, video or app that helped you get the abs. I do understand BF% is a large factor and do not believe in 30 day abs or 5 min abs. Looking to work hard for the results I want. Currently a little under 15% bf and working to get closer to 10%.