Lost 8kg in 2 months

warrenpillay

So i've been on warrior shredding program from Kinobody
Went from 99 to 91.4kg from Feb to April
The whole of April and may I was on maintenance so I stayed relatively the same
Now I'm back on it and gonna lose 16kg in 4 months

Motivated!

ceiswyn

No matter how motivated you are, 1 kg per week is way too fast to lose unless you're obese.

At the least, you're going to lose muscle mass as well as fat, which doesn't sound like it's what you want. You're chronically undernourishing yourself, and while you may feel great now it will catch up with you.

warrenpillay

Have you experienced this? Because I've gained muscle through the cut. Kinobody and intermittent fasting changes the game. If youre above 20% body fat it's possible to lose drastic weight and gain muscle by increasing protein to 0.8g protein per pound weight. Results speak for themselves

kgeyser

warrenpillay wrote: »

Have you experienced this? Because I've gained muscle through the cut. Kinobody and intermittent fasting changes the game. If youre above 20% body fat it's possible to lose drastic weight and gain muscle by increasing protein to 0.8g protein per pound weight. Results speak for themselves

What did you use to measure body composition to determine that you lost fat and gained muscle mass? And you may want to consider the difference of body fat percentage for males and females when holding 20% as a threshold - below 20% for females is going to require a lot more work than below 20% for males.

warrenpillay

Tape, arms shoulders increased, waist decreased

Yeah I wasn't talking about women.

kgeyser

warrenpillay wrote: »

Tape, arms shoulders increased, waist decreased

Yeah I wasn't talking about women.

Tape just tells you the measurement, it doesn't tell you the composition of what's being measured. You'd need a body composition test to determine that. For example, your waist measurement decreased, but that doesn't mean that everything that was lost was fat. Even with protein and training, some muscle is lost during weight loss. Adding muscle in a deficit is extremely difficult, and adding appreciable muscle in two months is difficult even when in a calorie surplus.

Glad you are seeing changes that are heading in the direction you want, but 2 months is not a long time, and there is generally a significant decrease in water weight initially when doing any kind of weight loss regimen. It is unlikely that the results would stay consistent over time and as weight drops.

warrenpillay

Wow thanks for bringing my spirits down 😢 Im just here to show people what's possible

But anyways we'll we just gotta see when 4 months are up then don't we😎

I will be posting a before and after photo
Let's go💪

pierinifitness

@warrenpillay I shared a post here some time back how I lost 12.8 lbs. of BF during a 3-month period of which 12.3 lbs. was BF, measured by DEXA-SCAN method. I ate a lower protein diet, practiced intermittent fasting, and my training was limited to challenging kettlebells workouts. And, I’m an older- age 64 - person.

Will measure again next month as I’ve been in maintenance for 3 months.

Bottom line, again, I believe you but you can confirm your early outcome with a more reliable BF measure like I did to be sure if it’s important to you. Otherwise, just note that you’ll get the type of comments here that you got. Don’t let them diminish your enthusiasm and motivation.

Keep marching forward and enjoy your youth.

ceiswyn

pierinifitness wrote: »

@warrenpillay I shared a post here some time back how I lost 12.8 lbs. of BF during a 3-month period of which 12.3 lbs. was BF, measured by DEXA-SCAN method. I ate a lower protein diet, practiced intermittent fasting, and my training was limited to challenging kettlebells workouts. And, I’m an older- age 64 - person.

Will measure again next month as I’ve been in maintenance for 3 months.

Bottom line, again, I believe you but you can confirm your early outcome with a more reliable BF measure like I did to be sure if it’s important to you. Otherwise, just note that you’ll get the type of comments here that you got. Don’t let them diminish your enthusiasm and motivation.

Keep marching forward and enjoy your youth.

12.8 lbs is 3 months is very much not the same as 16 kg in 4 months.

warrenpillay

@pierinifitness yeah man clearly the people here just want to throw their opinions around but aren't here to motivate others with their own success

I have bought a scale that measures body fat. I will be using that every month to update my progress. Thanks for the support brother. I'm 23 btw.

pierinifitness

@warrenpillay, be kind and have empathy, other people generally mean well. I do but have my own behavior issues of being rough around the edges.

The scale you mention is notoriously inaccurate so know that.

And with regard to your age, I’ve got lint in my belly button older than you,

Set your fitness, health and wellness bar high and leap over it!

ceiswyn

warrenpillay wrote: »

@pierinifitness yeah man clearly the people here just want to throw their opinions around but aren't here to motivate others with their own success

I have bought a scale that measures body fat. I will be using that every month to update my progress. Thanks for the support brother. I'm 23 btw.

Dude, I went from 385 lb to 150 lb, and from completely sedentary due to ankle problems to viewing a 14 mile hike as a gentle amble. Am I motivating you now? I'm 42 btw.

warrenpillay

@ceiswyn wow nice! I'm glad you aren't one of those people. Sorry about being so harsh

But yeah maybe I won't hit 16kg coz as you get leaner if gets harder.but I'm gonna hit something close, better to set high goals and fall short knowing you gave 100% rather than aiming for something you know you can achieve but knowing you could have squeezed more out.

That's just me

nefrusy

pierinifitness wrote: »

@warrenpillay, be kind and have empathy, other people generally mean well. I do but have my own behavior issues of being rough around the edges.

The scale you mention is notoriously inaccurate so know that.

And with regard to your age, I’ve got lint in my belly button older than you,

Set your fitness, health and wellness bar high and leap over it!

I just wanted to add my two cents that it is possible to shed body fat at a really fast pace, at least to start. I hadn't done any serious cardio in years, and didn't watch what I ate... added 25 lbs since college (age 39 now). I decided to make some major changes mid-February, and lost 8 lbs of BF in 4 weeks, then another 7 lbs 4 weeks later. I've been tracking my body composition this whole time, and I haven't been losing any muscle or "other" mass... both have fluctuated around 60 lbs & 66 lbs respectively. I think as long as you lose the weight through both diet and exercise, the majority of weight loss will come from body fat.

Since my initial 15 lbs came off, I have weeks where I get stuck around the same weight, but usually I'm not pushing as hard with the exercise and not paying attention to what I eat. I've only lost 3 lbs in the past month, but I'm making a much more serious push now, similar to your own. We'll see if the weight comes off easily again, or if it'll be a lot more work going forward. I suspect that my current weight is close to "normal" for my body type, so any more weight loss will be harder.

As far as the body fat scale goes, I have one as well that includes a handheld part (so it can gauge upper-body fat as well). It's a lot more accurate than people give it credit for... the only issue is that readings will be different based on some circumstances like current hydration, skin moisture, how much food you have in your digestive tract(?), etc. Yeah, it's a lot of variables, but if you keep things mostly consistent (ex. take measure first thing in morning after shower), there will be a lot less fluctuation in the readings.

warrenpillay

@nefrusy bro apparently getting to 8-10% body fat is very hard, I strongly recommend checking out Kinobody because Greg has 100s of guys reaching 7-10% body fat through fasting

warrenpillay

@nefrusy also well done, lets kill it this time💪

kgeyser

warrenpillay wrote: »

@pierinifitness yeah man clearly the people here just want to throw their opinions around but aren't here to motivate others with their own success

I have bought a scale that measures body fat. I will be using that every month to update my progress. Thanks for the support brother. I'm 23 btw.

You should return that scale to the store and get your money back. Bioelectrical impedance, which is what those scales use, is the least reliable method for determining body composition. Too many factors, such as water retention, can throw off the measurements.

I ran 4 double-digit mileage races last year, which include a Ragnar and a 2 day event consisting of a 8k followed by a half marathon, plus a bunch of shorter events. I think I'm doing all right in the success category.

pierinifitness

@hobbitses333, the young man is 23 years old and loaded with T, assuming he's training smartly with progressive resistance and following a measured yet smart calories deficit, I'll bank that he'll achieve his goals.

kgeyser

pierinifitness wrote: »

@hobbitses333, the young man is 23 years old and loaded with T, assuming he's training smartly with progressive resistance and following a measured yet smart calories deficit, I'll bank that he'll achieve his goals.

Negative, Ghostrider.

nefrusy

warrenpillay wrote: »

@nefrusy bro apparently getting to 8-10% body fat is very hard, I strongly recommend checking out Kinobody because Greg has 100s of guys reaching 7-10% body fat through fasting

Thanks, well done on your weight loss as well. I may have to check out Kinobody if I have trouble getting to my goal. I am currently at 15% body fat, but I am trying to get to that 8-10% so I can have chiseled abs before I turn 40. The last time I was that fit was at age 18, and my body fat was somewhere around 6-8% then (I wasn't paying attention to diet, but worked out almost every day). I don't expect I'll have to get quite that low again... at least I hope not!

The bioelectrical impedance measurement from the scale is fine, if you use it for a rough estimate and don't expect it to be exact. It's still going to fall within a reasonable range close to actual values. The important thing is to look at the trend... is your % body fat trending down? Is your % muscle going up? You wouldn't want to look at the readings multiple times a day, because a reading in the morning could be 14.2% while a reading at night could be 15.1%.

The same thing goes for checking your weight... depending on what you ate/drank, the scale could easily read 2 lbs different from one day to the next, even though it'd take 7000 calories difference for that to actually be fat gain/loss. Instead, that's usually caused by things like water retention (high sodium meals), bowl movements, etc.