Clean Keto vs Dirty Keto
ShayKnicks31
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Just started this Keto journey along side IF. Eating cheese and heavy dairy is starting to get to me 🤢 any suggestions on cleaner Keto?
Looking into better fats (Ghee, Avocado, Nuts) suggestions Please!?
Looking into better fats (Ghee, Avocado, Nuts) suggestions Please!?
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Meats, seafood, eggs, low GI berries, low sugar veggies.
I also incorporate Quest Protein Bars. Keto is keto, regardless if it's "clean" vs "dirty".7 -
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Drop all the fats if you can. Keto is more about the absence of carbs, not an abundance of fat. I eat almonds as my primary fat source. I try to avoid any animal fats. Good rule of thumb for fat - if it’s solid at room temperature than you probably shouldn’t be eating it. Good luck in your journey!43
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Drop all the fats if you can. Keto is more about the absence of carbs, not an abundance of fat. I eat almonds as my primary fat source. I try to avoid any animal fats. Good rule of thumb for fat - if it’s solid at room temperature than you probably shouldn’t be eating it. Good luck in your journey!
This is not true. The Keto diet is a high fat diet. You can do another diet that is low carb and low fat, but it is not Keto. However it is very hard to eat enough if you avoid both carbs and fats.23 -
Lol kk bud. Whatever you say.22
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Lol kk bud. Whatever you say.
https://www.cancer.gov/publications/dictionaries/cancer-terms/def/ketogenic-diet
"A diet high in fats and low in carbohydrates...."
OP - I agree with lemon's suggestions as well as things like nuts and avocados that you listed. I would imagine a Google search could also help you identify more keto friendly foods that have the balance you want.
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I can link articles too. You’re still wrong.29
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Bolded statements seem contradictory.Drop all the fats if you can. Keto is more about the absence of carbs, not an abundance of fat. I eat almonds as my primary fat source. I try to avoid any animal fats. Good rule of thumb for fat - if it’s solid at room temperature than you probably shouldn’t be eating it. Good luck in your journey!
So without fats, and without carbs, what is the diet, just endless protein from the most overly lean cuts of meat, and some hydrolyzed whey protein powder?
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Drop all the fats if you can. Keto is more about the absence of carbs, not an abundance of fat. I eat almonds as my primary fat source. I try to avoid any animal fats. Good rule of thumb for fat - if it’s solid at room temperature than you probably shouldn’t be eating it. Good luck in your journey!
Almonds are a solid fat.10 -
Yes. Avocados for the win.5
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Drop all the fats if you can. Keto is more about the absence of carbs, not an abundance of fat. I eat almonds as my primary fat source. I try to avoid any animal fats. Good rule of thumb for fat - if it’s solid at room temperature than you probably shouldn’t be eating it. Good luck in your journey!
Almonds are a solid fat.
Almonds are solids, their fat isn't.3 -
Keto is more about the absence of carbs, not an abundance of fat.
lol. Have you ever read even one actual definition of what constitutes the ketogenic diet? It absolutely is all about high fat. In fact, the fat:protein ratio must be 4:1 or 3:1 for it to be the ketogenic diet.
If you are eating at a ratio of 2:1 or 1:1, you aren't eating the ketogenic diet; you are eating the modified Atkins diet (MAD) version of the ketogenic diet.
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Drop all the fats if you can. Keto is more about the absence of carbs, not an abundance of fat. I eat almonds as my primary fat source. I try to avoid any animal fats. Good rule of thumb for fat - if it’s solid at room temperature than you probably shouldn’t be eating it. Good luck in your journey!
Why did you set your calorie limit at 1200? Are you not aware of the severe health risks of malnourishment?15 -
grinning_chick wrote: »Keto is more about the absence of carbs, not an abundance of fat.
lol. Have you ever read even one actual definition of what constitutes the ketogenic diet? It absolutely is all about high fat. In fact, the fat:protein ratio must be 4:1 or 3:1 for it to be the ketogenic diet.
If you are eating at a ratio of 2:1 or 1:1, you aren't eating the ketogenic diet; you are eating the modified Atkins diet (MAD) version of the ketogenic diet.
The 3:1 and 4:1 ratio are ONLY for therapeutic keto diets (for control of neurological conditions). Most dieters who do keto don't need to go nearly this high on the fat ratios. I have successfully maintained ketosis eating with a 1:1 ratio of fat to protein (or even less when I am doing hard workouts) as long as I keep the carbs in check.3 -
grinning_chick wrote: »Keto is more about the absence of carbs, not an abundance of fat.
lol. Have you ever read even one actual definition of what constitutes the ketogenic diet? It absolutely is all about high fat. In fact, the fat:protein ratio must be 4:1 or 3:1 for it to be the ketogenic diet.
If you are eating at a ratio of 2:1 or 1:1, you aren't eating the ketogenic diet; you are eating the modified Atkins diet (MAD) version of the ketogenic diet.
The 3:1 and 4:1 ratio are ONLY for therapeutic keto diets (for control of neurological conditions). Most dieters who do keto don't need to go nearly this high on the fat ratios. I have successfully maintained ketosis eating with a 1:1 ratio of fat to protein (or even less when I am doing hard workouts) as long as I keep the carbs in check.
I'm happy that the Atkins diet appears to be working well for you.8 -
grinning_chick wrote: »Keto is more about the absence of carbs, not an abundance of fat.
lol. Have you ever read even one actual definition of what constitutes the ketogenic diet? It absolutely is all about high fat. In fact, the fat:protein ratio must be 4:1 or 3:1 for it to be the ketogenic diet.
If you are eating at a ratio of 2:1 or 1:1, you aren't eating the ketogenic diet; you are eating the modified Atkins diet (MAD) version of the ketogenic diet.
The 3:1 and 4:1 ratio are ONLY for therapeutic keto diets (for control of neurological conditions). Most dieters who do keto don't need to go nearly this high on the fat ratios. I have successfully maintained ketosis eating with a 1:1 ratio of fat to protein (or even less when I am doing hard workouts) as long as I keep the carbs in check.
Just pointing out that this still doesn't correspond to @topster79 's advice to "drop all the fats that you can".6 -
Drop all the fats if you can. Keto is more about the absence of carbs, not an abundance of fat. I eat almonds as my primary fat source. I try to avoid any animal fats. Good rule of thumb for fat - if it’s solid at room temperature than you probably shouldn’t be eating it. Good luck in your journey!
Why did you set your calorie limit at 1200? Are you not aware of the severe health risks of malnourishment?
Worse, if you look back a couple of weeks to where there's next to no exercise adjustment, it's set at 800 cals. Totes healthy
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »Drop all the fats if you can. Keto is more about the absence of carbs, not an abundance of fat. I eat almonds as my primary fat source. I try to avoid any animal fats. Good rule of thumb for fat - if it’s solid at room temperature than you probably shouldn’t be eating it. Good luck in your journey!
Why did you set your calorie limit at 1200? Are you not aware of the severe health risks of malnourishment?
Worse, if you look back a couple of weeks to where there's next to no exercise adjustment, it's set at 800 cals. Totes healthy
I would be eyeing my dog like a rib eye steak if I tried 800 a day 13 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »Drop all the fats if you can. Keto is more about the absence of carbs, not an abundance of fat. I eat almonds as my primary fat source. I try to avoid any animal fats. Good rule of thumb for fat - if it’s solid at room temperature than you probably shouldn’t be eating it. Good luck in your journey!
Why did you set your calorie limit at 1200? Are you not aware of the severe health risks of malnourishment?
Worse, if you look back a couple of weeks to where there's next to no exercise adjustment, it's set at 800 cals. Totes healthy
I would be eyeing my dog like a rib eye steak if I tried 800 a day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9i0Tw7fwpM 
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snickerscharlie wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Drop all the fats if you can. Keto is more about the absence of carbs, not an abundance of fat. I eat almonds as my primary fat source. I try to avoid any animal fats. Good rule of thumb for fat - if it’s solid at room temperature than you probably shouldn’t be eating it. Good luck in your journey!
Why did you set your calorie limit at 1200? Are you not aware of the severe health risks of malnourishment?
Worse, if you look back a couple of weeks to where there's next to no exercise adjustment, it's set at 800 cals. Totes healthy
I would be eyeing my dog like a rib eye steak if I tried 800 a dayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9i0Tw7fwpM
85 edits later.....adorable
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magnusthenerd wrote: »Drop all the fats if you can. Keto is more about the absence of carbs, not an abundance of fat. I eat almonds as my primary fat source. I try to avoid any animal fats. Good rule of thumb for fat - if it’s solid at room temperature than you probably shouldn’t be eating it. Good luck in your journey!
Almonds are a solid fat.
Almonds are solids, their fat isn't.
This makes no sense to me, can someone explain? Almonds are solids... an almond doesn't gush with liquid when I bite into it or something, how is the fat not solid? Is it possible you mean soluble fat?0 -
ShayKnicks31 wrote: »Just started this Keto journey along side IF. Eating cheese and heavy dairy is starting to get to me 🤢 any suggestions on cleaner Keto?
Looking into better fats (Ghee, Avocado, Nuts) suggestions Please!?
@ShayKnicks31 I am into coconut oil for the MCT's but straight MCT oil gags me. While I am ok with eating coconut oil out of a spoon typically it add it to my coffee, grounded cinnamon and with half and half cream.
After 6 months I had figured out what I like and did not like to eat. As noted Job #1 is keeping carbs under 50 grams daily for many of us. I am never lower than 50 grams because I eat a lot of fiber in nuts, etc.6 -
magnusthenerd wrote: »Drop all the fats if you can. Keto is more about the absence of carbs, not an abundance of fat. I eat almonds as my primary fat source. I try to avoid any animal fats. Good rule of thumb for fat - if it’s solid at room temperature than you probably shouldn’t be eating it. Good luck in your journey!
Almonds are a solid fat.
Almonds are solids, their fat isn't.
This makes no sense to me, can someone explain? Almonds are solids... an almond doesn't gush with liquid when I bite into it or something, how is the fat not solid? Is it possible you mean soluble fat?
Generally, saturated fats are solid at room temperature, while unsaturated fats are typically liquid at room temperature. The fat in almonds is relatively little saturated fat. If you actually press and purify the fat from almonds without keeping the fiber / pulp, you'll get fats like this:
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GaleHawkins wrote: »ShayKnicks31 wrote: »Just started this Keto journey along side IF. Eating cheese and heavy dairy is starting to get to me 🤢 any suggestions on cleaner Keto?
Looking into better fats (Ghee, Avocado, Nuts) suggestions Please!?
@ShayKnicks31 I am into coconut oil for the MCT's but straight MCT oil gags me. While I am ok with eating coconut oil out of a spoon typically it add it to my coffee, grounded cinnamon and with half and half cream.
After 6 months I had figured out what I like and did not like to eat. As noted Job #1 is keeping carbs under 50 grams daily for many of us. I am never lower than 50 grams because I eat a lot of fiber in nuts, etc.
Thanks! I’ve been using coconut milk (canned not the one in dairy section) and that’s helped a lot. I def am looking to eat cleaner though. The cheese and bacon just the excessive fatty fats 😂 are getting to me a bit. Really appreciate your input. 👋🏾
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magnusthenerd wrote: »Drop all the fats if you can. Keto is more about the absence of carbs, not an abundance of fat. I eat almonds as my primary fat source. I try to avoid any animal fats. Good rule of thumb for fat - if it’s solid at room temperature than you probably shouldn’t be eating it. Good luck in your journey!
Almonds are a solid fat.
Almonds are solids, their fat isn't.
This makes no sense to me, can someone explain? Almonds are solids... an almond doesn't gush with liquid when I bite into it or something, how is the fat not solid? Is it possible you mean soluble fat?
Not entirely sure if it’s accurate but I do think that there is some oil substance within the almond. You would have to grind it down and extract it if I’m not mistaken. I could be wrong, just a guess1 -
Truly no need of heated disputes. Would love everyone to just show love and encouragement and just help one another without coming at each other. It’s all love and everyone has their opinions on what works for them. Really appreciate the honesty and insightful comments.
One love y’all 🇯🇲✌🏾💛9
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