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Metabolism/TDEE related question
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It amazes me how I’ve got 6 woo’s for my comment. I’ve basically said exactly the same as everyone else, except I’ve got the experience to know there are outliers. I’ve literally trained them, they exist.11
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I collect woo's too.
I know the state of one's digestive biome plays an important role in one's health. I learned the hard way about the effects of antibiotics and different medications can have on health. Over the years last 10 years I've turn to the functional side of medicine because they use exactly the same tests as general medicine but instead of putting sticking plaster medications over an issue, Functional Medics look to the base cause of the issues and address those, usually with diet and or supplements, occasionally with medications when the body needs more time to correct itself.
Its only when your life really hits the buffers, when here in the UK when the NHS does not provide the help you need personally. What would you do if your symptoms did not fit into the designated areas/boxes for treatment, we need to research for yourself and follow the scientific information we have available. I hope no one's health deteriorates as mine did or similar.
No I do not assume everyone who disapproves of my understanding of the microbiome and the difficulties lacking certain microbes can cause, like b 12 deficiency and various vitamin deficiencies all come from the US only that most of them do.
Inside Health was very interesting last night. The UK could well be following Canada and Australia in ensuring those on many medication young and old, actually "still" need them because the treatment had worked, or to ensure there are no crossover reactions between the medications being taken. It all comes down to taking better care of ourselves.
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lukejoycePT wrote: »It amazes me how I’ve got 6 woo’s for my comment. I’ve basically said exactly the same as everyone else, except I’ve got the experience to know there are outliers. I’ve literally trained them, they exist.
But you are not with them 24/7, you don't know their real food intake or how much they move when not exercising. Though a fast metabolism is possible due to hormonal imbalances such as hyperthyroidism, opposite of hypothyroidism, so possible your client has that, or they just eat less and move more than reported.15 -
I collect woo's too.
I know the state of one's digestive biome plays an important role in one's health. I learned the hard way about the effects of antibiotics and different medications can have on health. Over the years last 10 years I've turn to the functional side of medicine because they use exactly the same tests as general medicine but instead of putting sticking plaster medications over an issue, Functional Medics look to the base cause of the issues and address those, usually with diet and or supplements, occasionally with medications when the body needs more time to correct itself.
Its only when your life really hits the buffers, when here in the UK when the NHS does not provide the help you need personally. What would you do if your symptoms did not fit into the designated areas/boxes for treatment, we need to research for yourself and follow the scientific information we have available. I hope no one's health deteriorates as mine did or similar.
No I do not assume everyone who disapproves of my understanding of the microbiome and the difficulties lacking certain microbes can cause, like b 12 deficiency and various vitamin deficiencies all come from the US only that most of them do.
Inside Health was very interesting last night. The UK could well be following Canada and Australia in ensuring those on many medication young and old, actually "still" need them because the treatment had worked, or to ensure there are no crossover reactions between the medications being taken. It all comes down to taking better care of ourselves.
being deficient in vitamins and minerals has nothing to do with weight management, that is all cals in cals out. I agree that when it comes to health the state of one's digestive biome is important.. but health =/= weight management.17 -
As someone who's thyroid has destroyed itself I can absolutely confirm that it makes very little difference to metabolism in terms of burning calories. What it does do is make you more sluggish and a lot less likely to fidget (I can be mistaken for a sloth at times) and give you an excuse to give yourself as to why you "can't" lose weight.
So I'm not saying it has no effect, but as always, it's the same old calories in = less than calories out that does the trick along with a good old dose of being kind to and honest to yourself.11 -
Thats a blanket statement and untrue. Your gut does affect weight management, of course it does. Your gut biome effects many factors and It is not just calories in vs calories out. If you want a six pack and decent muscle mass eating 1500 calories of donuts a day will not give you those results.I collect woo's too.
I know the state of one's digestive biome plays an important role in one's health. I learned the hard way about the effects of antibiotics and different medications can have on health. Over the years last 10 years I've turn to the functional side of medicine because they use exactly the same tests as general medicine but instead of putting sticking plaster medications over an issue, Functional Medics look to the base cause of the issues and address those, usually with diet and or supplements, occasionally with medications when the body needs more time to correct itself.
Its only when your life really hits the buffers, when here in the UK when the NHS does not provide the help you need personally. What would you do if your symptoms did not fit into the designated areas/boxes for treatment, we need to research for yourself and follow the scientific information we have available. I hope no one's health deteriorates as mine did or similar.
No I do not assume everyone who disapproves of my understanding of the microbiome and the difficulties lacking certain microbes can cause, like b 12 deficiency and various vitamin deficiencies all come from the US only that most of them do.
Inside Health was very interesting last night. The UK could well be following Canada and Australia in ensuring those on many medication young and old, actually "still" need them because the treatment had worked, or to ensure there are no crossover reactions between the medications being taken. It all comes down to taking better care of ourselves.
being deficient in vitamins and minerals has nothing to do with weight management, that is all cals in cals out. I agree that when it comes to health the state of one's digestive biome is important.. but health =/= weight management.
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lukejoycePT wrote: »It amazes me how I’ve got 6 woo’s for my comment. I’ve basically said exactly the same as everyone else, except I’ve got the experience to know there are outliers. I’ve literally trained them, they exist.
But you are not with them 24/7, you don't know their real food intake or how much they move when not exercising. Though a fast metabolism is possible due to hormonal imbalances such as hyperthyroidism, opposite of hypothyroidism, so possible your client has that, or they just eat less and move more than reported.
I have spent many hours with these particular clients because of this issue and i can tell you it's not down to their activity or lack of food.
Also, after a prolonged diet you do realised your metabolic rate slows down and your body actually stops involuntary movements as much as possible in order to conserve energy.25 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »Thats a blanket statement and untrue. Your gut does affect weight management, of course it does. Your gut biome effects many factors and It is not just calories in vs calories out. If you want a six pack and decent muscle mass eating 1500 calories of donuts a day will not give you those results.I collect woo's too.
I know the state of one's digestive biome plays an important role in one's health. I learned the hard way about the effects of antibiotics and different medications can have on health. Over the years last 10 years I've turn to the functional side of medicine because they use exactly the same tests as general medicine but instead of putting sticking plaster medications over an issue, Functional Medics look to the base cause of the issues and address those, usually with diet and or supplements, occasionally with medications when the body needs more time to correct itself.
Its only when your life really hits the buffers, when here in the UK when the NHS does not provide the help you need personally. What would you do if your symptoms did not fit into the designated areas/boxes for treatment, we need to research for yourself and follow the scientific information we have available. I hope no one's health deteriorates as mine did or similar.
No I do not assume everyone who disapproves of my understanding of the microbiome and the difficulties lacking certain microbes can cause, like b 12 deficiency and various vitamin deficiencies all come from the US only that most of them do.
Inside Health was very interesting last night. The UK could well be following Canada and Australia in ensuring those on many medication young and old, actually "still" need them because the treatment had worked, or to ensure there are no crossover reactions between the medications being taken. It all comes down to taking better care of ourselves.
being deficient in vitamins and minerals has nothing to do with weight management, that is all cals in cals out. I agree that when it comes to health the state of one's digestive biome is important.. but health =/= weight management.
that is body composition, not weight. You are mixing and matching arguments here.14 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »It amazes me how I’ve got 6 woo’s for my comment. I’ve basically said exactly the same as everyone else, except I’ve got the experience to know there are outliers. I’ve literally trained them, they exist.
But you are not with them 24/7, you don't know their real food intake or how much they move when not exercising. Though a fast metabolism is possible due to hormonal imbalances such as hyperthyroidism, opposite of hypothyroidism, so possible your client has that, or they just eat less and move more than reported.
I have spent many hours with these particular clients because of this issue and i can tell you it's not down to their activity or lack of food.
Also, after a prolonged diet you do realised your metabolic rate slows down and your body actually stops involuntary movements as much as possible in order to conserve energy.
Yes, but that is part of cals out. So really your deficit is just smaller than you assume it is, that does not mean CICO dictates weight management. So yeah, in a prolonged deficit your cals our drop from reduced movement/fidgeting, and from carrying less weight, no one is arguing those points, but nice strawman you are trying to draw.7 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »Thats a blanket statement and untrue. Your gut does affect weight management, of course it does. Your gut biome effects many factors and It is not just calories in vs calories out. If you want a six pack and decent muscle mass eating 1500 calories of donuts a day will not give you those results.I collect woo's too.
I know the state of one's digestive biome plays an important role in one's health. I learned the hard way about the effects of antibiotics and different medications can have on health. Over the years last 10 years I've turn to the functional side of medicine because they use exactly the same tests as general medicine but instead of putting sticking plaster medications over an issue, Functional Medics look to the base cause of the issues and address those, usually with diet and or supplements, occasionally with medications when the body needs more time to correct itself.
Its only when your life really hits the buffers, when here in the UK when the NHS does not provide the help you need personally. What would you do if your symptoms did not fit into the designated areas/boxes for treatment, we need to research for yourself and follow the scientific information we have available. I hope no one's health deteriorates as mine did or similar.
No I do not assume everyone who disapproves of my understanding of the microbiome and the difficulties lacking certain microbes can cause, like b 12 deficiency and various vitamin deficiencies all come from the US only that most of them do.
Inside Health was very interesting last night. The UK could well be following Canada and Australia in ensuring those on many medication young and old, actually "still" need them because the treatment had worked, or to ensure there are no crossover reactions between the medications being taken. It all comes down to taking better care of ourselves.
being deficient in vitamins and minerals has nothing to do with weight management, that is all cals in cals out. I agree that when it comes to health the state of one's digestive biome is important.. but health =/= weight management.
that is body composition, not weight. You are mixing and matching arguments here.
Also, 1500 cals of donuts is a strawman argument and has way less protein than the typical junk food/fast food heavy diets that some real people eat. Plenty of people have six-packs eating a non optimal from a health perspective diet.10 -
It’s not straw man argument. He stated it’s calories in vs calories out but it isn’t. Eating just donuts proves it because your just consuming the calories. Hence why bodybuilders do not consume those food when competing. It won’t get you lean.lukejoycePT wrote: »Thats a blanket statement and untrue. Your gut does affect weight management, of course it does. Your gut biome effects many factors and It is not just calories in vs calories out. If you want a six pack and decent muscle mass eating 1500 calories of donuts a day will not give you those results.I collect woo's too.
I know the state of one's digestive biome plays an important role in one's health. I learned the hard way about the effects of antibiotics and different medications can have on health. Over the years last 10 years I've turn to the functional side of medicine because they use exactly the same tests as general medicine but instead of putting sticking plaster medications over an issue, Functional Medics look to the base cause of the issues and address those, usually with diet and or supplements, occasionally with medications when the body needs more time to correct itself.
Its only when your life really hits the buffers, when here in the UK when the NHS does not provide the help you need personally. What would you do if your symptoms did not fit into the designated areas/boxes for treatment, we need to research for yourself and follow the scientific information we have available. I hope no one's health deteriorates as mine did or similar.
No I do not assume everyone who disapproves of my understanding of the microbiome and the difficulties lacking certain microbes can cause, like b 12 deficiency and various vitamin deficiencies all come from the US only that most of them do.
Inside Health was very interesting last night. The UK could well be following Canada and Australia in ensuring those on many medication young and old, actually "still" need them because the treatment had worked, or to ensure there are no crossover reactions between the medications being taken. It all comes down to taking better care of ourselves.
being deficient in vitamins and minerals has nothing to do with weight management, that is all cals in cals out. I agree that when it comes to health the state of one's digestive biome is important.. but health =/= weight management.
that is body composition, not weight. You are mixing and matching arguments here.
Also, 1500 cals of donuts is a strawman argument and has way less protein than the typical junk food/fast food heavy diets that some real people eat. Plenty of people have six-packs eating a non optimal from a health perspective diet.
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Body composition and weight go hand in hand, you can’t change your body composition without losing or gaining weight. If you lose weight you change you body composition , so na mate I’m not mixing them up.lukejoycePT wrote: »Thats a blanket statement and untrue. Your gut does affect weight management, of course it does. Your gut biome effects many factors and It is not just calories in vs calories out. If you want a six pack and decent muscle mass eating 1500 calories of donuts a day will not give you those results.I collect woo's too.
I know the state of one's digestive biome plays an important role in one's health. I learned the hard way about the effects of antibiotics and different medications can have on health. Over the years last 10 years I've turn to the functional side of medicine because they use exactly the same tests as general medicine but instead of putting sticking plaster medications over an issue, Functional Medics look to the base cause of the issues and address those, usually with diet and or supplements, occasionally with medications when the body needs more time to correct itself.
Its only when your life really hits the buffers, when here in the UK when the NHS does not provide the help you need personally. What would you do if your symptoms did not fit into the designated areas/boxes for treatment, we need to research for yourself and follow the scientific information we have available. I hope no one's health deteriorates as mine did or similar.
No I do not assume everyone who disapproves of my understanding of the microbiome and the difficulties lacking certain microbes can cause, like b 12 deficiency and various vitamin deficiencies all come from the US only that most of them do.
Inside Health was very interesting last night. The UK could well be following Canada and Australia in ensuring those on many medication young and old, actually "still" need them because the treatment had worked, or to ensure there are no crossover reactions between the medications being taken. It all comes down to taking better care of ourselves.
being deficient in vitamins and minerals has nothing to do with weight management, that is all cals in cals out. I agree that when it comes to health the state of one's digestive biome is important.. but health =/= weight management.
that is body composition, not weight. You are mixing and matching arguments here.
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lukejoycePT wrote: »It’s not straw man argument. He stated it’s calories in vs calories out but it isn’t. Eating just donuts proves it because your just consuming the calories. Hence why bodybuilders do not consume those food when competing. It won’t get you lean.lukejoycePT wrote: »Thats a blanket statement and untrue. Your gut does affect weight management, of course it does. Your gut biome effects many factors and It is not just calories in vs calories out. If you want a six pack and decent muscle mass eating 1500 calories of donuts a day will not give you those results.I collect woo's too.
I know the state of one's digestive biome plays an important role in one's health. I learned the hard way about the effects of antibiotics and different medications can have on health. Over the years last 10 years I've turn to the functional side of medicine because they use exactly the same tests as general medicine but instead of putting sticking plaster medications over an issue, Functional Medics look to the base cause of the issues and address those, usually with diet and or supplements, occasionally with medications when the body needs more time to correct itself.
Its only when your life really hits the buffers, when here in the UK when the NHS does not provide the help you need personally. What would you do if your symptoms did not fit into the designated areas/boxes for treatment, we need to research for yourself and follow the scientific information we have available. I hope no one's health deteriorates as mine did or similar.
No I do not assume everyone who disapproves of my understanding of the microbiome and the difficulties lacking certain microbes can cause, like b 12 deficiency and various vitamin deficiencies all come from the US only that most of them do.
Inside Health was very interesting last night. The UK could well be following Canada and Australia in ensuring those on many medication young and old, actually "still" need them because the treatment had worked, or to ensure there are no crossover reactions between the medications being taken. It all comes down to taking better care of ourselves.
being deficient in vitamins and minerals has nothing to do with weight management, that is all cals in cals out. I agree that when it comes to health the state of one's digestive biome is important.. but health =/= weight management.
that is body composition, not weight. You are mixing and matching arguments here.
Also, 1500 cals of donuts is a strawman argument and has way less protein than the typical junk food/fast food heavy diets that some real people eat. Plenty of people have six-packs eating a non optimal from a health perspective diet.
but the conversation was about weight loss, not body composition, you are changing the question/point that was being made8 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »Body composition and weight go hand in hand, you can’t change your body composition without losing or gaining weight. If you lose weight you change you body composition , so na mate I’m not mixing them up.lukejoycePT wrote: »Thats a blanket statement and untrue. Your gut does affect weight management, of course it does. Your gut biome effects many factors and It is not just calories in vs calories out. If you want a six pack and decent muscle mass eating 1500 calories of donuts a day will not give you those results.I collect woo's too.
I know the state of one's digestive biome plays an important role in one's health. I learned the hard way about the effects of antibiotics and different medications can have on health. Over the years last 10 years I've turn to the functional side of medicine because they use exactly the same tests as general medicine but instead of putting sticking plaster medications over an issue, Functional Medics look to the base cause of the issues and address those, usually with diet and or supplements, occasionally with medications when the body needs more time to correct itself.
Its only when your life really hits the buffers, when here in the UK when the NHS does not provide the help you need personally. What would you do if your symptoms did not fit into the designated areas/boxes for treatment, we need to research for yourself and follow the scientific information we have available. I hope no one's health deteriorates as mine did or similar.
No I do not assume everyone who disapproves of my understanding of the microbiome and the difficulties lacking certain microbes can cause, like b 12 deficiency and various vitamin deficiencies all come from the US only that most of them do.
Inside Health was very interesting last night. The UK could well be following Canada and Australia in ensuring those on many medication young and old, actually "still" need them because the treatment had worked, or to ensure there are no crossover reactions between the medications being taken. It all comes down to taking better care of ourselves.
being deficient in vitamins and minerals has nothing to do with weight management, that is all cals in cals out. I agree that when it comes to health the state of one's digestive biome is important.. but health =/= weight management.
that is body composition, not weight. You are mixing and matching arguments here.
Yes you are. to lose weight is CICO, body composition also requires training and adequate macros. we are only talking weight here10 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »It’s not straw man argument. He stated it’s calories in vs calories out but it isn’t. Eating just donuts proves it because your just consuming the calories. Hence why bodybuilders do not consume those food when competing. It won’t get you lean.lukejoycePT wrote: »Thats a blanket statement and untrue. Your gut does affect weight management, of course it does. Your gut biome effects many factors and It is not just calories in vs calories out. If you want a six pack and decent muscle mass eating 1500 calories of donuts a day will not give you those results.I collect woo's too.
I know the state of one's digestive biome plays an important role in one's health. I learned the hard way about the effects of antibiotics and different medications can have on health. Over the years last 10 years I've turn to the functional side of medicine because they use exactly the same tests as general medicine but instead of putting sticking plaster medications over an issue, Functional Medics look to the base cause of the issues and address those, usually with diet and or supplements, occasionally with medications when the body needs more time to correct itself.
Its only when your life really hits the buffers, when here in the UK when the NHS does not provide the help you need personally. What would you do if your symptoms did not fit into the designated areas/boxes for treatment, we need to research for yourself and follow the scientific information we have available. I hope no one's health deteriorates as mine did or similar.
No I do not assume everyone who disapproves of my understanding of the microbiome and the difficulties lacking certain microbes can cause, like b 12 deficiency and various vitamin deficiencies all come from the US only that most of them do.
Inside Health was very interesting last night. The UK could well be following Canada and Australia in ensuring those on many medication young and old, actually "still" need them because the treatment had worked, or to ensure there are no crossover reactions between the medications being taken. It all comes down to taking better care of ourselves.
being deficient in vitamins and minerals has nothing to do with weight management, that is all cals in cals out. I agree that when it comes to health the state of one's digestive biome is important.. but health =/= weight management.
that is body composition, not weight. You are mixing and matching arguments here.
Also, 1500 cals of donuts is a strawman argument and has way less protein than the typical junk food/fast food heavy diets that some real people eat. Plenty of people have six-packs eating a non optimal from a health perspective diet.
It is a strawman diet. The problem with 1500 cals of donuts and body comp is that it wouldn't provide enough protein and you'd be in poor health. The average American eats pretty poorly, but does not eat a diet that is super low in protein or doesn't adequately cover the nutritional basics sufficiently to avoid looking like you are in poor health due to diet. I am into nutrition, but you really don't have to be, and can eat an average American diet, controlling cals, and with the right workout can make gains in body comp.
And back to the question about weight loss -- you can lose weight on pretty much any diet a real person might follow if calories are controlled. You could lose weight on 1500 cal of donuts too, in the short term, but it would be hard to sustain and bad for your health and is rather irrelevant as no one actually eats that way.
Gut biome affects health (although what is currently understood is not a lot), but it doesn't make weight loss impossible. And going more broadly, messed up gut often means you are less able to obtain cals/nutrients from what you eat, which is a problem, but clearly can't make you fat. Eating too much for your activity level makes someone fat.9 -
lukejoycePT wrote: »Here comes the woo part... there are some people who literally eat what they like and as much as they want and struggle to gain weight. I’ve had skinny clients who consume well over 3000 calories a day and see no gains. They are just genetically predisposed to do so. In my experience these people do exist. So, I don’t know what to tell ya! They are either gifted or cursed depending on how you look at it.
I would not woo it out of hand. I've seen the same people growing up. I have a friend who only now, in his late forties, is noticing a little bit of weight gain and can't "eat what he wants now". I don't woo what I myself can not explain...
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lukejoycePT wrote: »It’s not straw man argument. He stated it’s calories in vs calories out but it isn’t. Eating just donuts proves it because your just consuming the calories. Hence why bodybuilders do not consume those food when competing. It won’t get you lean.lukejoycePT wrote: »Thats a blanket statement and untrue. Your gut does affect weight management, of course it does. Your gut biome effects many factors and It is not just calories in vs calories out. If you want a six pack and decent muscle mass eating 1500 calories of donuts a day will not give you those results.I collect woo's too.
I know the state of one's digestive biome plays an important role in one's health. I learned the hard way about the effects of antibiotics and different medications can have on health. Over the years last 10 years I've turn to the functional side of medicine because they use exactly the same tests as general medicine but instead of putting sticking plaster medications over an issue, Functional Medics look to the base cause of the issues and address those, usually with diet and or supplements, occasionally with medications when the body needs more time to correct itself.
Its only when your life really hits the buffers, when here in the UK when the NHS does not provide the help you need personally. What would you do if your symptoms did not fit into the designated areas/boxes for treatment, we need to research for yourself and follow the scientific information we have available. I hope no one's health deteriorates as mine did or similar.
No I do not assume everyone who disapproves of my understanding of the microbiome and the difficulties lacking certain microbes can cause, like b 12 deficiency and various vitamin deficiencies all come from the US only that most of them do.
Inside Health was very interesting last night. The UK could well be following Canada and Australia in ensuring those on many medication young and old, actually "still" need them because the treatment had worked, or to ensure there are no crossover reactions between the medications being taken. It all comes down to taking better care of ourselves.
being deficient in vitamins and minerals has nothing to do with weight management, that is all cals in cals out. I agree that when it comes to health the state of one's digestive biome is important.. but health =/= weight management.
that is body composition, not weight. You are mixing and matching arguments here.
Also, 1500 cals of donuts is a strawman argument and has way less protein than the typical junk food/fast food heavy diets that some real people eat. Plenty of people have six-packs eating a non optimal from a health perspective diet.
It's just not a realistic example. You would be just as malnourished eating only 1500 calories of broccoli. It's not an either or thing...11 -
It kind of bugs me when people mention metabolism, I feel its an excuse for explaining why people are overweight.
As others have said, the people who are slim and eat what they want (or at least that's how it looks to others), are usually extremely active so therefore can eat pretty much what they want - which isn't probably as much as we all think either!
There's no doubt about it that some have better hunger cues than others, that comes down to personality but thats a whole other topic.
People probably look at me now and think 'she has a great metabolism' just because I'm slim. What I have is a pretty active life style, I'm an always on the go type of person but I can't actually eat what I want, I know exactly how many calories I can eat to maintain my weight even being active. My metabolism isn't broken, no, its more than I'm petite, slim, middle aged and I have to work to stay slim.
It is true that metabolism slows a bit as we get older but its something like us losing around 10 cals per day each year, if its even that much - someone I'm sure will jump in and enlighten us properly on this, because I have read that on the forums here before, just can't think of the source.
Also as we age we are inclined to move a bit less, so if we eat what we always did but move less, then its obvious we would gain gradually.
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lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »It amazes me how I’ve got 6 woo’s for my comment. I’ve basically said exactly the same as everyone else, except I’ve got the experience to know there are outliers. I’ve literally trained them, they exist.
But you are not with them 24/7, you don't know their real food intake or how much they move when not exercising. Though a fast metabolism is possible due to hormonal imbalances such as hyperthyroidism, opposite of hypothyroidism, so possible your client has that, or they just eat less and move more than reported.
I have spent many hours with these particular clients because of this issue and i can tell you it's not down to their activity or lack of food.
Also, after a prolonged diet you do realised your metabolic rate slows down and your body actually stops involuntary movements as much as possible in order to conserve energy.
Unless you are spending weeks and weeks 24/7 with these clients, a few hours means nothing. MANY "naturally thin" people eat a lot when they are with others and when asked say oh I eat like this all the time, yet when alone, "naturally" just end up not eating as much without realizing.11 -
Please don't insinuate that i am incompetent at my job. I have just stated that i have spent many hours with them, if you think that i have not considered these factors and applied these rules then you are mistaken. I am not just a regular PT in a gym, i am a health and wellbeing coach. I work closely with my clients beyond just Gym training and basic diet advice. I've been working with a diverse client base for over 5 years, there are outliers.
People on here sit behind their computers and preach because of their own experiences of diet and health. They read a few studies and spit out information that they have no real experience with, While their individual experience is valid it is not gospel. There is way more at play here than just calories in vs calories out. I don't claim to know why exactly some of the outliers don't put on weight but i do know it's not down to calories in vs calories out.Noreenmarie1234 wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »lukejoycePT wrote: »It amazes me how I’ve got 6 woo’s for my comment. I’ve basically said exactly the same as everyone else, except I’ve got the experience to know there are outliers. I’ve literally trained them, they exist.
But you are not with them 24/7, you don't know their real food intake or how much they move when not exercising. Though a fast metabolism is possible due to hormonal imbalances such as hyperthyroidism, opposite of hypothyroidism, so possible your client has that, or they just eat less and move more than reported.
I have spent many hours with these particular clients because of this issue and i can tell you it's not down to their activity or lack of food.
Also, after a prolonged diet you do realised your metabolic rate slows down and your body actually stops involuntary movements as much as possible in order to conserve energy.
Unless you are spending weeks and weeks 24/7 with these clients, a few hours means nothing. MANY "naturally thin" people eat a lot when they are with others and when asked say oh I eat like this all the time, yet when alone, "naturally" just end up not eating as much without realizing.
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