Low calorie requirement

yirara

kimny72 wrote: »

NovusDies wrote: »

@BarbaraHelen2013

I mentioned AT but I was really suggesting you were logging incorrectly. It is SO very easy to have blind spots and I think because you have made this part of your identity now you make your logs come out in a way that are lower probably without even intending to do it.

It could be a mixture of AT and logging I suppose but I am surprised that you jumped on a damaged metabolism so readily after insisting that what you have done is perfectly healthy. It really does make me think you being a 1k person is more important to you than just being wrong.

I hope I am right because I would hate to think your metabolism is damaged to that degree and what that might mean to your longevity. I don't know the science well enough to know if it is even possible to lower your metabolism that much and still be upright and mobile.

Your "800 calorie days" if accurate would be the same number of calories I feed my 30 pound dog.

I think this is the crux of it. There is nothing OK with a grown woman, even one that is on the short, sedentary, and older side, to be eating 800 calories per day. If you are overweight and need to eat that little to lose weight, you are not healthy and need to press your doctors to figure out what is wrong. A damaged metabolism can be repaired. An endocrine problem can be treated. The answer is not to continue to under-feed and exacerbate the problem.

No one is calling anyone an idiot or a liar. I personally insisted I was logging accurately and after listening to advice here found I was under logging by 300-400 calories. I've conversed here with dozens of women who stated multiple times on this forum that they were using a food scale and using good entries, but it turned out they weren't doing either as consistently as they honestly believed they were. They were intelligent women who believed they were doing everything right.

Some of us would like to try to encourage people to challenge their assumptions about their history with weight loss (which most of us had to do ourselves), start from scratch with a digital food scale, an accurate and consistent daily food log, and a blank slate, and find a way to eat as much food as possible while getting to a healthy weight. Accepting that you are forced to eat a VLCD for the rest of your life should be a last resort decision, made with the help and oversight of a medical team, not something small women should just accept as they get older.

This! The body of a female adult needs about 1200kcal to just run all the organs. If you think your TDEE really is that low that you only lose on 800kcal daily then either you're not weighing and counting correctly, or your body is using some organs a bit less, like the liver, pancreas or brains. You don't want your organs to only work part-time. Thus get it checked out.

lemurcat2

Minkymoo2019 wrote: »

I used to be able to loose weight quite easily. Since I have had my children this has changed. I've tried slimming world and other diets with no success unless I cut out a lot extra, which I didn't find sustsinable. I've put this down to me not following the diet properly. The last 3 months I have started good old fashioned calorie counting, weighing, measuring & logging. It's clear I don't start to loose weight unless I stick to 1000 calories or below! This is discouraging! At 1500 or even 1200 I just stay the same. I am 5ft 3in and 98kgs so have lots to loose. I have a seated job but walk a few miles daily.
Anyone else in this situation?

I am your height and started at around your weight (I went from about 200 to 125 using MFP). If very sedentary, 1500 would be about maintenance for me now. I started at 1200, which soon became 1200+exercise cals and then a TDEE way of eating at a higher cal level.

It would be helpful to know how consistent you've been, how long you've been at it, whether you eat at restaurants or such where it's hard to estimate, general activity level, so on.

I'd say open your diary when you have a few days or a week in for help.

Even if you think your calorie counts are perfect and you need no help with logging, trying to log as carefully as possible and getting advice from experienced people will be helpful, because you can print the log and bring it with you to a doctor if you do find you are eating at 1200 and not losing. Doctors notoriously assume patients are eating more than they think and just tell them to eat less, often, so being able to really back up that you are only eating 1200 and not losing is important, because at your size that would mean there's a medical issue.

I would ignore anyone telling you that you need to just accept 1200 as maintenance and eat less, as you have already said you don't find that sustainable -- and I totally get that! I wouldn't either.

If it turns out you are eating a bit more than you think, we also might have ideas based on the diary of ways to make your meals seem more filling and sustaining.

NovusDies

kimny72 wrote: »

Some of us would like to try to encourage people to challenge their assumptions about their history with weight loss (which most of us had to do ourselves), start from scratch with a digital food scale, an accurate and consistent daily food log, and a blank slate, and find a way to eat as much food as possible while getting to a healthy weight. Accepting that you are forced to eat a VLCD for the rest of your life should be a last resort decision, made with the help and oversight of a medical team, not something small women should just accept as they get older.

I will never get tired of typing this:

It is what you learn after you know it all that counts.

texasredreb

OP: Why did you make this post? Do you want help to figure out why you aren't losing weight?

Or do you want validation that you are a true medical anomaly and can live on literally no food.

If it's the former, then quit being so elusive and coy and help us help you. Make you diary public. Answer the questions honestly and LISTEN to the helpful suggestions you have been given.

If it's the latter....then yes; you are an air fern and there is nothing anyone can do to help you.