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Thank you all for your input. I changed my diary settings1
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I am seeing mostly cups and teaspoon and "pieces" measurements in your diary for today as an example. for accurate measuring it's best to weigh and select appropriate weight based entry. ESPECIALLY with nuts and nut butter.6
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Tammy, I think the problem is really in your logging. You're nearly exclusively using cups and spoons.
How do you measure 1/4 cup of trail mix correctly? You can get a lot of it into a cup if you squeeze it in. Doesn't mean it has the number of calories of 1/4 cup of trail mix.
Or yesterday I see "2 Egg Cheese Omellette - 2 Egg Cheese Omellette, 1 cup" Is this something you did or that you chose from the database? First of all, how do you measure an omelette in a cup? And secondly, 2 larger eggs can easily be close to 200 calories. 100 calories of cheese is probably about 20 grams. Plus you'd need oil for the omelette.
Black Beans, 1 tbsp(s): it's not a lot of calories, but measuring something with a spoon that reaches out over the top of the spoon gives you more calories than an actual spoon-full. Thus you can pile a lot of beans onto that spoon that remain unaccounted for.
Homemade - Oatmeal Protein Cookie, 3 cookie: Did you make this cookie recipe? If not you don't know what went inside and how big they are.
There are a few days where you hardly logged anything. What happened at those days?
I know you want a simple explanation, and the simple explanation is that you're just not thorough enough with measuring. The second comment already urged you to get a food scale, and I have to repeat this. Use a food scale for a few weeks, look for proper entries in the database in grams, and log in grams.
If you cook something yourself then use the recipe builder or create an own menu. If you cook just for yourself for 3 days you could measure everything that goes into this meal and enter this information right into MPF while cooking. Then safe as a meal, delete the entries in your diary and go to your meals, find this dish there, and add 0.33 of it. Or you can also leave it in your diary and later divide all measurements by 3 (I usually do that for meals that are not worth repeating). On the other days I eat this again I chose 'copy from date', and the right portion size is right there.
If not only cooking for yourself you might need to guess a bit. Significant other takes 4 serving spoons of rice, you take 3. You know the dry rice weight from cooking and then divide the total by 7 and multiply by 3. I'm sure there are better ways but that's what I did when I didn't want to annoy my now ex with this. It worked. But first of all, get the logging right. You can do it
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Have you tried keto and IF together? Are you tracking macros? Electrolytes? Have you tried fat fasts to get fat adapted? You might need to look into Extended fasts?
Read the Obesity Code. It makes so much sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIuj-oMN-Fk 32 -
Have you tried keto and IF together? Are you tracking macros? Electrolytes? Have you tried fat fasts to get fat adapted? You might need to look into Extended fasts?
Read the Obesity Code. It makes so much sense.
<snip to remove the pile of Fung>
While IF and keto may help some people, it is not necessary. Being fat adapted is not necessary, and extended fasts are really not necessary.
OP, others have pointed out some great opportunities to tighten up your logging. When I am logging accurately, I lose weight as expected. I know it's frustrating to go so long without seeing results, but you can do it. If the exercise is new, it could create some water retention, this masks weight loss. As someone else mentioned, the cancer medications can also have an impact. Let us know how it goes, once you changed your logging for a couple weeks.11 -
.Have you tried keto and IF together? Are you tracking macros? Electrolytes? Have you tried fat fasts to get fat adapted? You might need to look into Extended fasts?
Just when OP has been ( correctly) told to clear the clutter, she gets presented with even more clutter
No you do not need to do keto or IF or extended fasting or fat fasting or electrolyte or macro tracking - unless you want to.
You just need to accurately log your calories.9 -
I'll ad my voice to the posts above addressing the volume logging (cups, teaspoons, etc). It's a very inaccurate way to log and you can find yourself eating far more calories than you think. Getting a scale and weighting everything will more than likely address the problems your experiencing.
I noticed something that I think worth noting. Be honest with your logging.
I noticed a few really strange entries where you logged very odd amounts 1.13 cups or 12.5 crackers to achieve perfectly rounded calories. It appears that you might be tweaking the amounts your logging in order to achieve a desired calorie total. Log the real values regardless of the calories they give you.
There were a few days (Friday stands out the most) where your logging appears incomplete. You need to log everything you eat to get an accurate picture. The good, the bad and the ugly, everything needs to get logged and accounted for.
I'm sure if you get a kitchen scale and start to log honestly, accurately and completely you'll start to see results.4 -
TammyGermiller wrote: »30 days in low carb. Watching my macros and exercising. I have joint issues so I do cardio pool 2xs a week pretty hard. This exhausts me. Recovering from cancer treatment from 3 years ago. So how much have I lost? NOTHING. I have been almost perfect with my eating. I am so disgusted. Need to lose at least 30 pounds. Yes, I am drinking water. Yes, I have tried keto. Yes, I have tried intermittent fasting. Nothing works. Any suggestions?
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I am at 190 pounds maybe a little bit less I was running everyday almost every day with only one day off in between and lifting weights with a total of lifting weights and running 90 minutes 5 days a week maybe six days a week and I just started losing some weight after over a month and a half to 2 months. So don't worry you'll see everything soon! The truth is for many people you literally need to work out for 90 days 3 months until you really start to see anything substantial regularly. Even though you're working out try upping one more session to three days a week in the pool. And instead of weighting if you're having problems with weighing try 2/3 rule! The three lean meats turkey, chicken, fish on a regular plate small portion regular sized and the rest of the plate which is two-thirds of the plate is full of vegetables. If you have a sweet tooth fruit only! Or anything fruit-based.7
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A person says they want to get from this town to a neighboring one a few miles away, and is advised to build a jet airplane, breed a team of Alaskan sled dogs who can then tow the airplane to the starting location, and then pilot the plane to the neighboring town.
That is what telling someone, who's trying to nail down the basics of measuring food and eating to a calorie target, to try keto, IF, electrolytes, and fat fasting, entails.
What they really need to do is put on a pair of sneakers and walk to the next town. Nice and simple. No tricks. No gimmicks. Just walk.
Measure food properly. Count calories. Stop eating at MFP's suggested calorie target. Lose weight. It is that simple.15 -
paperpudding wrote: »oh my posts are woo ed all the time - even the most innocuous ones.
There are some woo happy and I'm sure flag happy readers here.
Maybe somebody skim read post (very skim read!! ) and thought your links were to advertising sites??
Oh no is the “Woo” bad? I thought it was like a “woohoo!!” A level greater than like. I now feel terrible for all the posts I “woo”’d!7 -
MostlyWater wrote: »Use a tape measure instead of the scale to assess your progress.
I was going to say this, use a tape measure and photos to evaluate how different clothes are fitting on you. You might see more of a difference. I may not have lost weight for 2 weeks...but I can now see an definition and my pants are not as tight. I can also go faster, longer, and have much more resistance on my workouts in the past few months too...Use different indicators of success.1 -
paperpudding wrote: »oh my posts are woo ed all the time - even the most innocuous ones.
There are some woo happy and I'm sure flag happy readers here.
Maybe somebody skim read post (very skim read!! ) and thought your links were to advertising sites??
Oh no is the “Woo” bad? I thought it was like a “woohoo!!” A level greater than like. I now feel terrible for all the posts I “woo”’d!
Woo is sort of a 'that post is nonsense' emoticon.
Is as a whole thread on it somewhere.
most confusing and misused and misundersood emoticon IMO.
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paperpudding wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »oh my posts are woo ed all the time - even the most innocuous ones.
There are some woo happy and I'm sure flag happy readers here.
Maybe somebody skim read post (very skim read!! ) and thought your links were to advertising sites??
Oh no is the “Woo” bad? I thought it was like a “woohoo!!” A level greater than like. I now feel terrible for all the posts I “woo”’d!
Woo is sort of a 'that post is nonsense' emoticon.
Is as a whole thread on it somewhere.
most confusing and misused and misundersood emoticon IMO.
Oh god what have I done! Thanks for the info so I stop seeing that as “woohoo!”3 -
I also have joint issues. I track calories, use a food scale, I eat a plant based diet. I've been on it for a month and a half and have lost about 9 pounds. I do light exercise but mostly creating a calories deficit by eat unprocessed nutrient rich foods on Dr. Greger's daily dozen check list.
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paperpudding wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »oh my posts are woo ed all the time - even the most innocuous ones.
There are some woo happy and I'm sure flag happy readers here.
Maybe somebody skim read post (very skim read!! ) and thought your links were to advertising sites??
Oh no is the “Woo” bad? I thought it was like a “woohoo!!” A level greater than like. I now feel terrible for all the posts I “woo”’d!
Woo is sort of a 'that post is nonsense' emoticon.
Is as a whole thread on it somewhere.
most confusing and misused and misundersood emoticon IMO.
Oh god what have I done! Thanks for the info so I stop seeing that as “woohoo!”
Don't worry. I usually see a woo as a badge of honour. More often than not those seem to be from people who disagree with me but can't find scientifically valid arguments
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paperpudding wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »oh my posts are woo ed all the time - even the most innocuous ones.
There are some woo happy and I'm sure flag happy readers here.
Maybe somebody skim read post (very skim read!! ) and thought your links were to advertising sites??
Oh no is the “Woo” bad? I thought it was like a “woohoo!!” A level greater than like. I now feel terrible for all the posts I “woo”’d!
Woo is sort of a 'that post is nonsense' emoticon.
Is as a whole thread on it somewhere.
most confusing and misused and misundersood emoticon IMO.
Oh god what have I done! Thanks for the info so I stop seeing that as “woohoo!”
If you reclick on the posts that you woo'd, the Woo will go away. You can also click on something else, like Like, and that will remove your Woo as well.1 -
I wouldn't stress too much. People tend to disregard if a post gets a few woo's as it's assumed to be either someone like yourself who misunderstood what it was for or someone getting their feelings hurt because the truth being posted goes against their incorrect beliefs.
It's when a post gets slammed with loads of woo's that the woo flag starts to take on it's intended meaning1 -
I wish I could figure out how to respond to specific posts. Thank you everyone for your input. Getting a scale. Been seeing a naturopath. He thinks I need a really good detox because of all the load in my system. Going to do that and start weighing my food. The nuts in my log are exactly to size. Trader Joe’s individually bagged. Can not control myself so I have to do that 🤪4
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TammyGermiller wrote: »I wish I could figure out how to respond to specific posts. Thank you everyone for your input. Getting a scale. Been seeing a naturopath. He thinks I need a really good detox because of all the load in my system. Going to do that and start weighing my food. The nuts in my log are exactly to size. Trader Joe’s individually bagged. Can not control myself so I have to do that 🤪
Forgive me for the woo.
https://nccih.nih.gov/health/detoxes-cleanses
Please talk to a real medical doctor about your need to "detox".
There is nothing in your system that will actually BENEFIT from a detox other than, perhaps, the naturopath's wallet in exchange for you fulfilling a psychological urge to see yourself accomplishing something--even if it ultimately that something has nothing to do with your end goals and even if that something ultimately proves more harmful than good!
All that a "detox" will do is play with your water weight (scale weight), and the waste in your system, while putting a load on your body for no real benefit other than what I mentioned above.
"All" you have to do to lose weight is control your food intake over a long enough time frame and keep it below your caloric expenditure. It is a simple concept that is not very easy to implement long term and consistently.
May I suggest patience, a reasonable deficit target not exceeding 20% of your total energy expenditure in a day, and weighing even your pre-packaged stuff on a SCALE. Yourself.
Over-time you will figure out which items you need to worry about weighing and which ones you don't. But when you start, it is just easier to weigh everything!
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