Afraid to drink water... NOT Rational
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Weight loss can be quite a strain on a person and after an doable eating routine is established most of the weight loss happens between the ears. I have had a few moments myself that have given me pause.
This is very insightful. The thoughts, feeling, emotions, psychology to become more healty and fit are all perfectly unique, person by person, and I believe that is why plans, or systems, or even simple advice can be ineffective. Coming up with what works well for me, is ultimately something only I can create (probably with good support, education, and advice too)
Come on folks...in some other thread we should all contribute to a thread "MFP subjects most likely to cause people to get all fired up"
-Macros
-frequency of weighing/scales
-drinking enough water
-techniques for strength training
-eating too few calories
Any of these (and many more) cause strong MFP reactions.
[are you thinking BUT IT IS REALLY REALLY IMPORTANT AND HERE IS WHY ...]
My best to you all, and I genuinely wish health and wellbeing to the OP.
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The first time I started losing weight on MFP ten years I spent a couple weeks obsessing about enemas. With incredible amounts of care and preparation and fear i eventually bought a $3 kit at the pharmacy, did it, realized it was silly, and haven't thought about it since.
Yeah, I did something silly and 'dangerous'...but nothing to see here move along. Nearly all of us are going ro be O.K.10 -
chris_in_cal wrote: »The first time I started losing weight on MFP ten years I spent a couple weeks obsessing about enemas. With incredible amounts of care and preparation and fear i eventually bought a $3 kit at the pharmacy, did it, realized it was silly, and haven't thought about it since.
Yeah, I did something silly and 'dangerous'...but nothing to see here move along. Nearly all of us are going ro be O.K.
I'm going to guess you have never personally known someone who suffered from an eating disorder. That's not a luxury all of us have had. Far more people end up not okay than you would think. I'd rather suggest OP get some help when she might not need it, then not suggest it and risk her taking that as a signal that that kind of obsessive behavior is normal.
The comments here aren't about drinking enough water. They are about fear and panic associated with neutral things. Thousands of people hurt themselves and sometimes die as a result of eating disorders, it isn't a silly thing to caution against.13 -
elainemariebenes wrote: »i got into a similar bad habit a couple years ago, i was trying to reach a certain goal by a certain date and i got obsessed with weighing myself...all hours of the day, before food, after food, you name it...and getting frustrated if i didn’t see a number i liked. then started trying to manipulate the scale based on if i used salt on my food the night before.
i tried putting the scale away altogether and that lead to a regain that i am now working on, so maybe that is not the best solution for everyone. as with most things in life, finding balance is key.
I too am a scale lover. By the way, to be clear, I am the person who said much earlier in the thread that she should give her husband the scale for a while and delete the trend app. That said, it isn't like I don't understand frequent scale use. I weight in every morning, which keeps me plugged in in a positive way, and for a while I was weighing multiple times a day. The analytical side of it was intriguing to me some time back -- weight changes before/after dinner, before/after exercise, etc. I would weigh just before bed, then just after waking but before peeing, and then after peeing, and was fascinated by the results. For instance, I discovered that if I drank a lot of water before bed, I would perspire up to 0.6 lbs of it out overnight (before peeing) which would otherwise not happen if I didn't drink water, and then all the rest would come off in the pee. To this day, I still don't understand where that 0.6 pounds of perspiration actually went, since I didn't wake up damp. But anyway ...
It isn't like I don't understand scale fixation, although now I only weigh once a day.
But I have never, ever, ever intentionally denied myself water so as to get a better morning readout. I think that is the line in the sand right there, where interest and enthusiasm turns into self-destructive behavior. The OP has crossed into self-destructive behavior and needs to do something about it, whether that means putting away the scale for a while and dumping the trend app so that the constant counting and number hypervigilance recedes, or the harder way - therapy. Something has to change, though.
Water helps with weight loss and produces better scale readings. The more water, the better the scale readings. Maybe if the OP just internalizes that, it'll stop this bad behavior.
But mainly, I think the trend app has gotta go. For some people, those apps encourage unhealthy attempts to try to force each new day to a new low weight, and also cause demoralization and frustration when the weight bounces around, as it will inevitably do, sometimes leading to the end of a diet. Those apps can become very counterproductive.1 -
it isn't a silly thing to caution against.
Of course not. But try telling the average american that the most likely cause for them dying prematurely is driving their car (which is true) and prepare to be excoriated for not being serious about the dangerous things like global warming, terrorism, farry liver disease, standard american diet, etc.
Can you hear when I say I agree that eating disorders and unhealthy, and that hopefully those with them can get help?
And some issues really fire people up?
Having known someone with an eating disorder makes my opinions have merit? That's not true.
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chris_in_cal wrote: »it isn't a silly thing to caution against.
Of course not. But try telling the average american that the most likely cause for them dying prematurely is driving their car (which is true) and prepare to be excoriated for not being serious about the dangerous things like global warming, terrorism, farry liver disease, standard american diet, etc.
Can you hear when I say I agree that eating disorders and unhealthy, and that hopefully those with them can get help?
And some issues really fire people up?
Having known someone with an eating disorder makes my opinions have merit? That's not true.
I certainly wasn't saying your opinion doesn't have merit, just that I disagree with it and believe you are missing the point, possibly due to not having personal experience with EDs. But I'm more concerned about OP understanding the responses, so I'm not going to contribute further to derailing the thread.9
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