What can you say about Zyzz?
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I couldn't care if his message was about bringing peace to the whole world.Yea. Your goal is to be skinny ripped but yet he's your motivation. His story is pretty well known and he is not a good role model nor is he someone that people should be looking up to.
You must be one of those guys who obviously didn't really pay any attention to his message..
He was a drugged up little scrote and is not a role model for anyone.
oh he isn't a role model for anyone? Ok, will just forget of the thousands of people I've seen turn dedicated for training, living life to the fullest, not caring about haters *cough*, etc.
Plssir pls. Tell me more of how he isn't a role model for anyone. He's one of mine too btw. So ur little statement is invalid.
Good luck in life, brah. I'm definitely not mirin, so I must be a jelly hater.0 -
In a world that values the big mac, you came to a thread to put down someones role model which has inspired thousands to get in better shape and to stop caring what other people thought about them.
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In a world that values the big mac, you came to a thread to put down someones role model which has inspired thousands to get in better shape and to stop caring what other people thought about them.
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Maybe some people need to care more about what others think of them?
And maybe some people don't need to look up to people who use drugs to obtain their physique and happiness?
IDK, just thinking outloud here.0 -
Forever mirin
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In a world that values the big mac, you came to a thread to put down someones role model which has inspired thousands to get in better shape and to stop caring what other people thought about them.
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Maybe some people need to care more about what others think of them?
And maybe some people don't need to look up to people who use drugs to obtain their physique and happiness?
IDK, just thinking outloud here.
Why does it matter what anyone else thinks about you socially. As long as you make ethical choices, peoples social impression of you has no purpose. People are so miserable trying to fit in.....to what, what society has predetermined the norm to be?
And youre right, but think about it from another perspective. Orson scott card was a hate filled biggot, but that doesnt affect my opinion on one of my favorite books of all time enders game. I doubt most people "mire" zyzz for his drug use. They admire him for other reasons.0 -
Also lol at people saying he couldn't be a role model because he did steroids.
95% of athletes use steroids and literally everyone you see in a fitness magazine uses them. If we are being honest here pretty much everyone that people look up to because of their body has done steroids or prohormones.
inb4 "hard work and dedication you can achieve anything"
Also, not a zyzz fan boy but people itt are makin me lol0 -
Really? 95% of athletes use steroids? I assume you intend that statement to be hyperbole.0
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Really? 95% of athletes use steroids? I assume you intend that statement to be hyperbole.
If you really think top athletes aren't on dat dere... i got sum bad newz...0 -
In a world that values the big mac, you came to a thread to put down someones role model which has inspired thousands to get in better shape and to stop caring what other people thought about them.
k
Maybe some people need to care more about what others think of them?
And maybe some people don't need to look up to people who use drugs to obtain their physique and happiness?
IDK, just thinking outloud here.
Why does it matter what anyone else thinks about you socially. As long as you make ethical choices, peoples social impression of you has no purpose. People are so miserable trying to fit in.....to what, what society has predetermined the norm to be?
And youre right, but think about it from another perspective. Orson scott card was a hate filled biggot, but that doesnt affect my opinion on one of my favorite books of all time enders game. I doubt most people "mire" zyzz for his drug use. They admire him for other reasons.
Because if you don't care what someone thinks about you than you are prone to do dangerous things. Ethics is based on what other people think.
Haven't read any Orson Scott Card, but I can assume his books were not filled with hate filled bigotry. Zyzz got where he was almost solely by using drugs, and he didn't even do a good job at that. Dude was pretty small comparatively.0 -
In a world that values the big mac, you came to a thread to put down someones role model which has inspired thousands to get in better shape and to stop caring what other people thought about them.
k
Maybe some people need to care more about what others think of them?
And maybe some people don't need to look up to people who use drugs to obtain their physique and happiness?
IDK, just thinking outloud here.
Why does it matter what anyone else thinks about you socially. As long as you make ethical choices, peoples social impression of you has no purpose. People are so miserable trying to fit in.....to what, what society has predetermined the norm to be?
And youre right, but think about it from another perspective. Orson scott card was a hate filled biggot, but that doesnt affect my opinion on one of my favorite books of all time enders game. I doubt most people "mire" zyzz for his drug use. They admire him for other reasons.
Because if you don't care what someone thinks about you than you are prone to do dangerous things. Ethics is based on what other people think.
Haven't read any Orson Scott Card, but I can assume his books were not filled with hate filled bigotry. Zyzz got where he was almost solely by using drugs, and he didn't even do a good job at that. Dude was pretty small comparatively.
So I can put a needle in myself and look like zyzz by just sitting on my computer?0 -
Also lol at people saying he couldn't be a role model because he did steroids.
95% of athletes use steroids and literally everyone you see in a fitness magazine uses them. If we are being honest here pretty much everyone that people look up to because of their body has done steroids or prohormones.
inb4 "hard work and dedication you can achieve anything"
Also, not a zyzz fan boy but people itt are makin me lol
Just because someone USES steroids does not mean that they got where they are because of steroids. Take baseball for example. Anyone at the top levels has been playing for at least 15 years. They might take steroids to boost their performance, but they aren't good ball players because of steroids.
Now look at Zyzz. He was skinny, he took steroids and lifted, and he got big. No decade+ of training, just shortcuts.
Not a role model in my view.0 -
What the fuark?!!!!!!!!!!!! calm down to all brah
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In a world that values the big mac, you came to a thread to put down someones role model which has inspired thousands to get in better shape and to stop caring what other people thought about them.
k
Maybe some people need to care more about what others think of them?
And maybe some people don't need to look up to people who use drugs to obtain their physique and happiness?
IDK, just thinking outloud here.
Why does it matter what anyone else thinks about you socially. As long as you make ethical choices, peoples social impression of you has no purpose. People are so miserable trying to fit in.....to what, what society has predetermined the norm to be?
And youre right, but think about it from another perspective. Orson scott card was a hate filled biggot, but that doesnt affect my opinion on one of my favorite books of all time enders game. I doubt most people "mire" zyzz for his drug use. They admire him for other reasons.
Because if you don't care what someone thinks about you than you are prone to do dangerous things. Ethics is based on what other people think.
Haven't read any Orson Scott Card, but I can assume his books were not filled with hate filled bigotry. Zyzz got where he was almost solely by using drugs, and he didn't even do a good job at that. Dude was pretty small comparatively.
So I can put a needle in myself and look like zyzz by just sitting on my computer?
Was writing my reply to your post as you were posting this. Please see above.0 -
Really? 95% of athletes use steroids? I assume you intend that statement to be hyperbole.
If you really think top athletes aren't on dat dere... i got sum bad newz...
You said "athletes" as in all people who are athletes. Even so, even if you consider all "top" athletes across all sports, I think you are still wrong and speaking purely in hyperbole. Do you have proof of your given statistic?0 -
Also lol at people saying he couldn't be a role model because he did steroids.
95% of athletes use steroids and literally everyone you see in a fitness magazine uses them. If we are being honest here pretty much everyone that people look up to because of their body has done steroids or prohormones.
inb4 "hard work and dedication you can achieve anything"
Also, not a zyzz fan boy but people itt are makin me lol
Just because someone USES steroids does not mean that they got where they are because of steroids. Take baseball for example. Anyone at the top levels has been playing for at least 15 years. They might take steroids to boost their performance, but they aren't good ball players because of steroids.
Now look at Zyzz. He was skinny, he took steroids and lifted, and he got big. No decade+ of training, just shortcuts.
Not a role model in my view.
So it's ok to use steroids to improve for a sport but not ok to use them to improve yourself? I used to think like you but I've come to realize that people take different paths in their lives and it's the same thing with lifting. I don't see a point in bashing someone for having a role model that took one path instead of another when many other role models that people have go down the same path.
inb4 people think i tech because of these posts lol0 -
Really? 95% of athletes use steroids? I assume you intend that statement to be hyperbole.
If you really think top athletes aren't on dat dere... i got sum bad newz...
You said "athletes" as in all people who are athletes. Even so, even if you consider all "top" athletes across all sports, I think you are still wrong and speaking purely in hyperbole. Do you have proof of your given statistic?
Let me put it this way.
You're a rookie in your given sport. Your entire way of life rests on the fact that you can beat the person next to you in your given sport. But the person next to you is on steroids. What do you do? Do you say "no that wouldn't be fair" and lose your career after one season?0 -
I never heard of him until after he died. All I know is he was apparently a guy who, after he died, was found to abuse steroids, and he liked to go on cam with underage girls.
Nothing there worth looking up to. But then, I don't think having a physique is a reason to look up to anyone at all.0 -
I just realized the problem here....no one in this thread knows how steroids work.... you dont just take steroids and become huge....or shredded or anything....0
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Really? 95% of athletes use steroids? I assume you intend that statement to be hyperbole.
If you really think top athletes aren't on dat dere... i got sum bad newz...
You said "athletes" as in all people who are athletes. Even so, even if you consider all "top" athletes across all sports, I think you are still wrong and speaking purely in hyperbole. Do you have proof of your given statistic?
Well there is that whole A-Rod thing going on right now and 12 other players were suspended as well as Miguel Tejada that was suspended 2 days ago.
There is a lot of info linking other players from different sports to the A-rod scandal.
Also, just because athletes do not test positive doesn't mean they aren't on them, they will actually take female test to cloak the PED and doctors are constantly coming up with new undiscovered drugs.0 -
LOL @ everyone who thinks that they don't need a high level of dedication even with roids to get those results.
It's never been about juicing up to be like zyzz.
It's about being yourself, haters will hate, but doesn't matter what they think as long as you're true to yourself.
Why let everyone come to conclusions for you, you are your own person and you have to draw conclusions for yourself.
A lot of people, weren't happy with themselves, with how they looked. Zyzz inspired thousands to get up and change themselves. Hard work, dedication, to be themselves and not put others down.
That's what it's all about.0 -
LOL @ everyone who thinks that they don't need a high level of dedication even with roids to get those results.
It's never been about juicing up to be like zyzz.
It's about being yourself, haters will hate, but doesn't matter what they think as long as you're true to yourself.
Why let everyone come to conclusions for you, you are your own person and you have to draw conclusions for yourself.
A lot of people, weren't happy with themselves, with how they looked. Zyzz inspired thousands to get up and change themselves. Hard work, dedication, to be themselves and not put others down.
That's what it's all about.
This^
And honestly the first time I saw Zyzz I was like "who is this douche?" Then I realized what he was really about.0 -
LOL @ everyone who thinks that they don't need a high level of dedication even with roids to get those results.
It's never been about juicing up to be like zyzz.
It's about being yourself, haters will hate, but doesn't matter what they think as long as you're true to yourself.
Why let everyone come to conclusions for you, you are your own person and you have to draw conclusions for yourself.
A lot of people, weren't happy with themselves, with how they looked. Zyzz inspired thousands to get up and change themselves. Hard work, dedication, to be themselves and not put others down.
That's what it's all about.
This^
And honestly the first time I saw Zyzz I was like "who is this douche?" Then I realized what he was really about.
^ this exactly.... i really did not like him at first until i thought about what the real point was
Inb4 we are all labled as geared0 -
......and then you have established atheletes like Lance Armstrong who finally confess to Oprah that yes they did abuse steroids to get to and hold their positions at the top of the sporting tree, a man who also was supposed to be a role model for those youngsters who aspired to be like him and didnt know he was cheating because he dishonestly hid his drug abuse..... so I do have sympathy for a young guy who felt he could take a calculated risk and take steroids but sadly died having an underlying heart disorder , he wasnt a heroin addict or a junky, he may have been stupid but unfortunately that can afflict people of any age. Whoever he was he was a young man who died too young and somebodys son, they do say dont speak ill of the dead if you have nothing nice to say. If during his short life people were inspired to be like him, then he was a role model whether other people on here approve of that fact or not, whether he went about things in a careful or reckless way is detracting from the efforts he made of which steorids were only a part of the overall picture , I doubt he was suicidal. Not all role models for young people are good role models, you only have to look at the music industry to see people like Rhihanna, Madge and Beyonce and Lady gaga jumping round half dressed with their crotches hanging out, yet young girls aspire to be like them, like it or not. RIP young man, he tried to make a difference and maybe thats what the youngsters admire, his attitude, fire and spirit, I get that.0
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Best post I've seen so far I think ^Inb4 we are all labled as geared
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Tried to resist from posting here all night.. but I've broken.
I have no problem with the use of steroids, or what another human does with their body, their choice.
Zyzz was one of the reasons I started lifting, because of his physique, not his attitude. But that being said I don't care what he said either, his life.
I don't aspire to be like him, or aspire to act like him - I just enjoy lifting and it's as simple as that.
If people want to "fuk bishes" and live their life like he did, sure. But you're attempting to live out someone elses fantasy based off a video and it's really sad - be yourself don't try and be like him.
As for people saying the "message" he sent out? Half good, half moronic - yeah it was a bit of fun, but you can't expect anyone to live "HIS" lifestyle and expect to live long, and if you think his lifestyle was okay you're a moron and actually don't know much about him.
I'm obviously not talking about steroids as I have no issue with them, I'm talking about other stuff.
Peace
And to the people who say
"Zyzz inspired people to get up and not put others down"
Well, the first bits true for sure, but 50% of Zyzz videos on the internet are that clip of him running after two fat girls talking about whales and harpoons. Yeah, don't put people down, okay.0 -
I guess I am too old to see the appeal.
When I was a kid it was Mr Bruce Lee. The original aesthetic philosopher.
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anyway like he once said, 'haters gonna hate brah, you'll never be like zyzz brah'
Zyzz is no one, Aziz was the guys who created 'zyzz' the legacy/lifestyle
lolwut?
If you knew him or his story, you'd know. Not gna be explaining something that can easily be found via most social platforms.
I'm too lazy, brah
Could see that at first glance.0 -
I couldn't care if his message was about bringing peace to the whole world.Yea. Your goal is to be skinny ripped but yet he's your motivation. His story is pretty well known and he is not a good role model nor is he someone that people should be looking up to.
You must be one of those guys who obviously didn't really pay any attention to his message..
He was a drugged up little scrote and is not a role model for anyone.
oh he isn't a role model for anyone? Ok, will just forget of the thousands of people I've seen turn dedicated for training, living life to the fullest, not caring about haters *cough*, etc.
Plssir pls. Tell me more of how he isn't a role model for anyone. He's one of mine too btw. So ur little statement is invalid.
So, this role model of yours, what is it about him that makes you want him as a role model? Do you want to be a drug user? Do you want the inability to complete a coherent sentence without the use of 18 "cuss" words and mirin' and brah? Do you want to make up your own language because you're too lazy to learn the proper way to say something? You do want to come off as a complete douche to millions of people? Are those your lofty goals?
If you're looking for role models in the fitness world...I'm sure there are more people to choose from who are better suited to being a role model. A role model should be someone you look up to as an example for how you want to live...not just go, "Dude has a righteous bod, brah...I be mirin' and want to be like him, brah!" That's not a role model.
However, if you did pick Azz as a role model...that says a lot about you, brah.
Lol, did I ever say he was a role model for physique? or for the way he speaks etc? nooope... I clearly stated I like the way he didn't give a f*k what people think. I admire the way he taught thousands of people to do whatever they want, have fun in life, don't take everything so serious etc.
Btw, why would I care about if I come across as a douche to millions of people? I really couldn't care less. That's something Zyzz himself taught me. Not to give a f*k.
Just because you have your own perceived vision of who he was and what he was about, doesn't mean you're right. Yeah, I thought at first "what a douche" then I came to realise and learn what he was actually about and what message he wanted to give to people.
Do I wanna take steroids/drugs? Nope, btw how do you even know he took anything illegal? You CANT prove it. Just because one is a role model, doesn't mean one should follow every step to become like him/her. I don't think you truly know what a role model is in this case, bud.0 -
I guess I am too old to see the appeal.
When I was a kid it was Mr Bruce Lee. The original aesthetic philosopher.
^^ he had his issues with over training and going into that electric shock therapy but he was the man0
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