Cardio/ muscle building

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  • Manga23
    Manga23 Posts: 47 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    Manga23 wrote: »
    jack1336 wrote: »
    My main thong is to gain muscle. So I do a calorie surplus. However I want to be able to loose fat, I have bits and pieces of it (so to speak) on the sides (lovehandles) and i THINK in my chest (though I don’t know if that’s possible and I’m just over analyzing it). I work out 5 times a week (PHAT program).
    Though I feel like I’m bulking very slowly. Am I missing something? Is it Cardio? There are plenty of days where i seem skinny fat.

    PS
    Thanks for the core workouts rileyes! And yes I know six pack comes with all diet.

    It's impossible to build muscle and loose fat at the same time unless you're a newbie in fitness. In order to loose fat you need to be in a calorie deficit.

    Over generalization. Even intermediate lifters have the ability to gain some muscle in a deficit. Given the variables, such statements aren't helpful as they need to consider things like programming, diet, age, etc...

    https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10611633/gaining-muscle-in-a-deficit/p1

    Thanks for the thread. But side note that it's not easy to accomplish.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    Manga23 wrote: »
    jack1336 wrote: »
    My main thong is to gain muscle. So I do a calorie surplus. However I want to be able to loose fat, I have bits and pieces of it (so to speak) on the sides (lovehandles) and i THINK in my chest (though I don’t know if that’s possible and I’m just over analyzing it). I work out 5 times a week (PHAT program).
    Though I feel like I’m bulking very slowly. Am I missing something? Is it Cardio? There are plenty of days where i seem skinny fat.

    PS
    Thanks for the core workouts rileyes! And yes I know six pack comes with all diet.

    It's impossible to build muscle and loose fat at the same time unless you're a newbie in fitness. In order to loose fat you need to be in a calorie deficit.

    Be very, very cautious about using the word impossible - it takes just one example to prove the statement false!
    "Slow", "difficult" and "impossible" have very different meanings.

    But in this case both your statements ignore that the majority of people can recomp (simultaneously lose fat/gain muscle), bulking/cutting cycles are vastly more widespread than when I was growing up but they are still a minority approach in the general population who simply strive to "get in shape" by doing more exercise.
  • Manga23
    Manga23 Posts: 47 Member
    Okay maybe I need to refine my point of view a little......... Body recomposition protocols are typically more effective if:

    You’re a beginner. Meaning that you’re within your first year of proper and consistent training.You’re detrained. Meaning that you’ve taken at least a couple months off from training OR you’ve never really trained or eaten properly and consistently.You have quite a high body fat (for example over 25%).You’re an intermediate lifter ready for a “slow cut”.

    Keep in mind that if you’re a more intermediate lifter, body recomposition can still occur in some cases but at a much slower rate. And mainly only if you’re at a higher body fat % and willing to perform a slow cut.

    Impossible is not the word I had to use so maybe TS can take advantage of this
    sijomial wrote: »
    Manga23 wrote: »
    jack1336 wrote: »
    My main thong is to gain muscle. So I do a calorie surplus. However I want to be able to loose fat, I have bits and pieces of it (so to speak) on the sides (lovehandles) and i THINK in my chest (though I don’t know if that’s possible and I’m just over analyzing it). I work out 5 times a week (PHAT program).
    Though I feel like I’m bulking very slowly. Am I missing something? Is it Cardio? There are plenty of days where i seem skinny fat.

    PS
    Thanks for the core workouts rileyes! And yes I know six pack comes with all diet.

    It's impossible to build muscle and loose fat at the same time unless you're a newbie in fitness. In order to loose fat you need to be in a calorie deficit.

    Be very, very cautious about using the word impossible - it takes just one example to prove the statement false!
    "Slow", "difficult" and "impossible" have very different meanings.

    But in this case both your statements ignore that the majority of people can recomp (simultaneously lose fat/gain muscle), bulking/cutting cycles are vastly more widespread than when I was growing up but they are still a minority approach in the general population who simply strive to "get in shape" by doing more exercise.

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