Any nutritionists or dietitians around?

ag38617

I was hoping I could get some advice from some people who know more than me. I’ve been trying to following a plan called 2BMindset, from Beachbody. The only tracking you do is writing down what you ate. You follow a “plate it” method and you base your meals on what your plate should look like. Breakfast is 1/2 protein 1/2 fiber filled carbs. Lunch 1/2 veggies, 1/4 protein, 1/4 fiber filled carbs, and dinner is 3/4 veggies and 1/4 protein. IF you have a snack it should be between lunch and dinner and should start with veggies and then you can add protein and then you can add carbs (adding those things if you’re still hungry). There is no eating after dinner and you should drink 16 oz of water before each meal. You have to get on the scale every morning - and if it went up or down, you’re supposed to look at your tracker and see what worked and what didn’t. There are a lot of parts of it that I like....like it forces me to eat a lot of vegetables and I don’t have to count, measure or really worry about tracking anything. I just write it down.

For some reason, I question this program. I was very into it last year, even tried coaching. 3 times I lost about 12 lbs and then gained it back. I see A LOT of people that keep this going and have for 2 years and live it...but I dunno. Anyone have any opinions? Thanks in advance!

L1zardQueen

Why dont you want to count calories?

ag38617

Well with 2BMindset, you don’t have to. There’s s much freedom in it, if you follow the plate guidelines. I’ve tried to go to another form of tracking and it’s just so hard to count and measure every little thing when I didn’t have to before.

LeanButNotMean44

ag38617 wrote: »

Well with 2BMindset, you don’t have to. There’s s much freedom in it, if you follow the plate guidelines. I’ve tried to go to another form of tracking and it’s just so hard to count and measure every little thing when I didn’t have to before.

Well... you didn’t count or measure and here you are after regaining the weight...🤔

Tracking/weighing is like any kind of change - it takes a little while to get used to before it becomes second nature. I’ve been doing it for a LONG time and honestly, I sometimes don’t even realize I reached for my food scale until its starting me in the face! 😉

Putting food on a plate/in a special container doesn’t guarantee that you won’t overeat. You must be in a calorie deficit to lose weight.

lorrpb

I tried it for awhile to drop a few lbs during maintenance. I didn’t like the “no carbs after lunch” idea. What really bothered me was the concept that a scale change today is directly tied to what you ate yesterday. It’s not that linear and even Ilana acknowledges that in some of her videos. I was in a 2B support group with my BB coach, who is also a friend, and I just got tired of this idea being promoted. I do think most of her other principles are sound and do seem to help a lot of people.

ag38617

I struggle with no carbs at dinner time too. I get so hungry before bed if I don’t have them. And yes, sometimes the scale really does mess with your head.

gallicinvasion

Ultimately this plan seems indirectly aim you towards eating less, and that’s why you lose weight at the beginning. But there’s no mechanism in this beachbody program to help you confirm whether you’re actually eating less than what you need to maintain your weight. If I had to guess, that’s why you lost 12 lbs but then stalled. You weren’t able to aim towards a consistent calorie deficit (which is the mechanism by which we all lose weight).

If this plan has some things you find helpful and you enjoy eating that way (like the plate recommendations), feel free to keep it! But if there are things that are too restrictive, just keep in mind that to lose weight, you don’t have to do anything besides eat at a calorie deficit. As long as you know what your maintenance calories are and you eat a reasonable amount below that (think 10% below, to start), you can lose weight consistently with whatever your favorite way-of-eating is.

snowflake954

Well I'd say that if you've done this 3 times (with success) , but then gained it all back, it really doesn't work for you long term. That means re-evaluation. Unless you plan to yo-yo this way for the rest of your life. I would say that it isn't teaching you much. Calorie counting teaches you how many calories are in foods, sauces and beverages. Many people have no idea. Once you know, you can make better choices, and this is valuable for maintaining weight for the rest of your life.

quiksylver296

Sounds like this plan doesn't work for you, if you've tried it three times and gained it back each time.

Maybe time to try something else?

What worked for me was eating whatever I like within my calorie goal. I know if I try to cut chocolate out of my life, I will give up and binge after a week or so. So, I allow myself chocolate (or ice cream) every night, 200-300 calories. I just plan for it in my day. Calorie counting through MFP is the only thing that has worked for me long term.

weatherking2019

quiksylver296 wrote: »

Calorie counting through MFP is the only thing that has worked for me long term.

me too. I eat what I like within moderation. I ALWAYS log everything I eat. It's the only way I know how to maintain.

SuzySunshine99

ag38617 wrote: »

I was hoping I could get some advice from some people who know more than me. I’ve been trying to following a plan called 2BMindset, from Beachbody. The only tracking you do is writing down what you ate. You follow a “plate it” method and you base your meals on what your plate should look like. Breakfast is 1/2 protein 1/2 fiber filled carbs. Lunch 1/2 veggies, 1/4 protein, 1/4 fiber filled carbs, and dinner is 3/4 veggies and 1/4 protein. IF you have a snack it should be between lunch and dinner and should start with veggies and then you can add protein and then you can add carbs (adding those things if you’re still hungry). There is no eating after dinner and you should drink 16 oz of water before each meal. You have to get on the scale every morning - and if it went up or down, you’re supposed to look at your tracker and see what worked and what didn’t. There are a lot of parts of it that I like....like it forces me to eat a lot of vegetables and I don’t have to count, measure or really worry about tracking anything. I just write it down.

For some reason, I question this program. I was very into it last year, even tried coaching. 3 times I lost about 12 lbs and then gained it back. I see A LOT of people that keep this going and have for 2 years and live it...but I dunno. Anyone have any opinions? Thanks in advance!

I think the bolded part above is pretty disturbing and really counter-productive. Whether the scale is up or down on any given day likely has nothing to do with if you did something "right" or "wrong" the day before. Weight fluctuates from day to day based on a number of factors, including water weight and waste in your system. The trend over time is what's important. This mindset of "if I do everything perfectly today, the scale will be down tomorrow" is really an unhealthy way of thinking.

quiksylver296

SuzySunshine99 wrote: »

ag38617 wrote: »

I was hoping I could get some advice from some people who know more than me. I’ve been trying to following a plan called 2BMindset, from Beachbody. The only tracking you do is writing down what you ate. You follow a “plate it” method and you base your meals on what your plate should look like. Breakfast is 1/2 protein 1/2 fiber filled carbs. Lunch 1/2 veggies, 1/4 protein, 1/4 fiber filled carbs, and dinner is 3/4 veggies and 1/4 protein. IF you have a snack it should be between lunch and dinner and should start with veggies and then you can add protein and then you can add carbs (adding those things if you’re still hungry). There is no eating after dinner and you should drink 16 oz of water before each meal. You have to get on the scale every morning - and if it went up or down, you’re supposed to look at your tracker and see what worked and what didn’t. There are a lot of parts of it that I like....like it forces me to eat a lot of vegetables and I don’t have to count, measure or really worry about tracking anything. I just write it down.

For some reason, I question this program. I was very into it last year, even tried coaching. 3 times I lost about 12 lbs and then gained it back. I see A LOT of people that keep this going and have for 2 years and live it...but I dunno. Anyone have any opinions? Thanks in advance!

I think the bolded part above is pretty disturbing and really counter-productive. Whether the scale is up or down on any given day likely has nothing to do with if you did something "right" or "wrong" the day before. Weight fluctuates from day to day based on a number of factors, including water weight and waste in your system. The trend over time is what's important. This mindset of "if I do everything perfectly today, the scale will be down tomorrow" is really an unhealthy way of thinking.

To add to @suzysunshine99's comment, read this article:

http://physiqonomics.com/the-weird-and-highly-annoying-world-of-scale-weight-and-fluctuations

janejellyroll

SuzySunshine99 wrote: »

ag38617 wrote: »

I was hoping I could get some advice from some people who know more than me. I’ve been trying to following a plan called 2BMindset, from Beachbody. The only tracking you do is writing down what you ate. You follow a “plate it” method and you base your meals on what your plate should look like. Breakfast is 1/2 protein 1/2 fiber filled carbs. Lunch 1/2 veggies, 1/4 protein, 1/4 fiber filled carbs, and dinner is 3/4 veggies and 1/4 protein. IF you have a snack it should be between lunch and dinner and should start with veggies and then you can add protein and then you can add carbs (adding those things if you’re still hungry). There is no eating after dinner and you should drink 16 oz of water before each meal. You have to get on the scale every morning - and if it went up or down, you’re supposed to look at your tracker and see what worked and what didn’t. There are a lot of parts of it that I like....like it forces me to eat a lot of vegetables and I don’t have to count, measure or really worry about tracking anything. I just write it down.

For some reason, I question this program. I was very into it last year, even tried coaching. 3 times I lost about 12 lbs and then gained it back. I see A LOT of people that keep this going and have for 2 years and live it...but I dunno. Anyone have any opinions? Thanks in advance!

I think the bolded part above is pretty disturbing and really counter-productive. Whether the scale is up or down on any given day likely has nothing to do with if you did something "right" or "wrong" the day before. Weight fluctuates from day to day based on a number of factors, including water weight and waste in your system. The trend over time is what's important. This mindset of "if I do everything perfectly today, the scale will be down tomorrow" is really an unhealthy way of thinking.

Yeah, I haven't been drinking much at all and the other night I had three cocktails. The next day, I was three pounds lighter than I'd been the day before. Nothing else was unusual about my day. By the standard of this program, I would note that drinking worked for weight loss. But if I gain weight the day after a hard workout, I would have to conclude that hard workouts don't work for weight loss. There are so many factors in our day-to-day weight. Weight management is more than what happened in the previous 24 hours. People who adopt this strategy, I feel like they'll never learn to focus on what truly matters.

wilson10102018

My weight varies as much as 4 pounds from day to day, probably entirely based on water and elimination. Not to worry, while it takes a deficit of 3500 calories to lose a single pound, it also takes a 3500 calorie surplus to gain a pound.

I have faith . . . in science, which is calorie counting, not whether particular foods move through my system slower or faster or cause me to retain water for a temporary weight change.

gallicinvasion

I second the above. My weight fluctuates within a 4 or 5 pound range throughout the week. It reflects retaining or flushing out water weight OR reflects waste/food still in your digestive system. It is not really possible to judge your fat loss if you’re looking at weight change from one day to the next. You absolutely must look at your average weight from week to week, and month to month.

amusedmonkey

I don't like it for me. It would limit my freedom too much and doing social eating or mixed macro dishes would be a nightmare. I also don't like that they're encouraging people to obsess with weight fluctuations. These happen regardless of how or what you eat and are meaningless in the short term.

Personally, I find counting calories freeing. I get to eat whatever I want whenever it's worth it in whatever quantity that feels worth it.