Break the black/white thinking
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paperpudding wrote: »Leaving aside the cooking analogy - because analogies can get taken too far and I think we have made our point with that one - yes I agree different lifestyles work for different people.
I didnt think there was any snarkiness
- I acknowledged that what KHMcg is doing could work for him and for some others.
It still was not good advice for OP and I disagreed with his thinking so.
I didn't think you were snarky or dismissive, just for the record.
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Don't weigh your food. Don't eat back your calories. Concentrate on learning how much and what to eat that helps you lose and maintain. Then keep your active lifestyle. Focus on finding foods you like and activities you enjoy.
Yep I still feel this way. Give me more dislikes please. I don't want to be chained to an app. The app is just a tool to learn and correct.
BTW I do this. Never weigh my food. Never eat back calories.
Two weeks at 100% goal and moving to maintenance now. Calories and macros are estimates at best anyways.
Is your life a diet or lifestyle?
Two weeks?
Anything can work for two weeks. You can go on the banana - lemon juice - chocolate cake diet for two weeks and lose weight. You can do the asparagus and Happy Meal diet and lose weight for two weeks. You can do the Game of Thrones and Popcorn diet for two weeks and lose a few pounds.
Are you sure the "no calorie counting, just do you" approach would work for 6, 12 or 18 months?
It's best to be very, very humble with diet advice. Most diets fail right after the honeymoon phase - 2 to 6 weeks. Many people can't even begin to make intuitive eating work; I am one of them. Counting calories and eating back exercise at least mimics what the body's actually doing with the food, and treats it as an algebra issue, which is what it is.
6 weeks now at maintenance.0 -
Don't weigh your food. Don't eat back your calories. Concentrate on learning how much and what to eat that helps you lose and maintain. Then keep your active lifestyle. Focus on finding foods you like and activities you enjoy.
Yep I still feel this way. Give me more dislikes please. I don't want to be chained to an app. The app is just a tool to learn and correct.
BTW I do this. Never weigh my food. Never eat back calories.
Two weeks at 100% goal and moving to maintenance now. Calories and macros are estimates at best anyways.
Is your life a diet or lifestyle?
Two weeks?
Anything can work for two weeks. You can go on the banana - lemon juice - chocolate cake diet for two weeks and lose weight. You can do the asparagus and Happy Meal diet and lose weight for two weeks. You can do the Game of Thrones and Popcorn diet for two weeks and lose a few pounds.
Are you sure the "no calorie counting, just do you" approach would work for 6, 12 or 18 months?
It's best to be very, very humble with diet advice. Most diets fail right after the honeymoon phase - 2 to 6 weeks. Many people can't even begin to make intuitive eating work; I am one of them. Counting calories and eating back exercise at least mimics what the body's actually doing with the food, and treats it as an algebra issue, which is what it is.
6 weeks now at maintenance.
Congratulations, but generally maintaining is something that is measured in years, not weeks.3 -
Its 6 of one or half a dozen of the other.
MFP goal of 1200 daily assumes you earn extra for exercise - and you indicate (not in what I quoted, but its in your post) 3-5 workouts weekly. Those 3-5 workouts weekly are counted in the TDEE so would account for the 300/day difference between MFP's 1200 and the calculator's 1500. Its assuming the workouts burn an extra 2100 per week.
If you feel that is too much (2100/week for workouts) then cut it in half, assume 1350 is more accurate than 1500. And either eat 1200 + extra for working out, or set goal manually to 1350 daily and do not worry about workout calories (because they are reflected in the 1350) as long as you feel satisfied/energetic on what you are consuming.
Planning is helpful, and hopefully you'll build an arsenal of food choices to fall back on for when plans go awry.laurosaurusrex wrote: »
I know it's low, but MFP set me to 1200 calories a day. I checked a TDEE calculator and that gave me 1500 calories for a 1 lb. loss a week which I know is probably more realistic and sustainable. But of course, my mind has a hard time embracing that.
Just wondering if any of you could share your words of advice or support or wisdom.
I really do appreciate it
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Don't weigh your food. Don't eat back your calories. Concentrate on learning how much and what to eat that helps you lose and maintain. Then keep your active lifestyle. Focus on finding foods you like and activities you enjoy.
If I could do that I wouldn't have weighed twice what I ought. I must weigh/measure my food so I know how much to eat. More importantly, I log it and keep count of how many calories I am ingesting a day. I know how I weighed so much. I ate twice as much as I needed.3 -
Don't weigh your food. Don't eat back your calories. Concentrate on learning how much and what to eat that helps you lose and maintain. Then keep your active lifestyle. Focus on finding foods you like and activities you enjoy.
Yep I still feel this way. Give me more dislikes please. I don't want to be chained to an app. The app is just a tool to learn and correct.
BTW I do this. Never weigh my food. Never eat back calories.
Two weeks at 100% goal and moving to maintenance now. Calories and macros are estimates at best anyways.
Is your life a diet or lifestyle?
Two weeks?
Anything can work for two weeks. You can go on the banana - lemon juice - chocolate cake diet for two weeks and lose weight. You can do the asparagus and Happy Meal diet and lose weight for two weeks. You can do the Game of Thrones and Popcorn diet for two weeks and lose a few pounds.
Are you sure the "no calorie counting, just do you" approach would work for 6, 12 or 18 months?
It's best to be very, very humble with diet advice. Most diets fail right after the honeymoon phase - 2 to 6 weeks. Many people can't even begin to make intuitive eating work; I am one of them. Counting calories and eating back exercise at least mimics what the body's actually doing with the food, and treats it as an algebra issue, which is what it is.
6 weeks now at maintenance.
That is excellent. Keep doing what you are doing unless it stops.
It proves nothing however. I would never counsel anyone to do exactly what I do in relation to food. I wouldn't even recommend logging the exact same way I log. My system is based on my habits, my strengths, my weak spots, and how I want to live and eat now and, as it is planned right now, at least 5 years from now. It may be forever but I do not like to plan that far out. Future me may need or want to do something different.
I try to encourage habit and mindset changes in others and hope they will figure out their specifics through experimentation/trial and error.6 -
Don't weigh your food. Don't eat back your calories. Concentrate on learning how much and what to eat that helps you lose and maintain. Then keep your active lifestyle. Focus on finding foods you like and activities you enjoy.
Yep I still feel this way. Give me more dislikes please. I don't want to be chained to an app. The app is just a tool to learn and correct.
BTW I do this. Never weigh my food. Never eat back calories.
Two weeks at 100% goal and moving to maintenance now. Calories and macros are estimates at best anyways.
Is your life a diet or lifestyle?
You are giving educated, trained behaviors to the novice. It might as well be a test. If that behavior is your recommendation for the OP’s success, then state how you achieved this behavior, how it became successful for you, and what steps OP should take. Otherwise, your statement is pointless.
Don’t be a d.
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