Labels for GMO foods are a bad idea

walterm852

I eat organic and I eat GMO. I would like to know with a simple label, just like for allergins.

If GMO's were so great, healthy and better for us, why wouldnt Monsanto and the others want to let the public know with labels? I mean they tell us when products are new and improved, why not say its a super food. Because the FDA approves something doesnt mean its as safe as one would think:
Monsanto and FDA regulator relationships
http://rense.com/general33/fd.htm
rBGH tie in
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/25/finally-huge-victory-against-monsanto-milk.aspx

Its sort of laughable, but also scary that this happens today in the US. GMO's can be awesome, the lack of transparency from a company that made Agent Orange DDT PCBs is really not comforting.

Why is our food being made and modified by the worlds largest pesticide manufacturer?

I want to pick my poison;-), a label would help

farway

How exactly does removing labels protect consumers? It only protects the corporation that is selling it.

So agree, one can nearly smell the money behind it

I live in Europe [England] where all GM foods are banned so labeling does not come into it, however similar situation arose few years back regarding irradiated food [to prolong shelf life], the proposed labeling was to show the yellow triangle with black segments within

Killed the irradiated food idea stone dead of course, once it was obvious consumers would be aware of what they were getting

Just wish some of our supermarkets had labeled burgers as [illegally] containing horse meat

Acg67

I eat organic and I eat GMO. I would like to know with a simple label, just like for allergins.

If GMO's were so great, healthy and better for us, why wouldnt Monsanto and the others want to let the public know with labels? I mean they tell us when products are new and improved, why not say its a super food. Because the FDA approves something doesnt mean its as safe as one would think:
Monsanto and FDA regulator relationships
http://rense.com/general33/fd.htm
rBGH tie in
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/25/finally-huge-victory-against-monsanto-milk.aspx

Its sort of laughable, but also scary that this happens today in the US. GMO's can be awesome, the lack of transparency from a company that made Agent Orange DDT PCBs is really not comforting.

Why is our food being made and modified by the worlds largest pesticide manufacturer?

I want to pick my poison;-), a label would help

Strong logic, there must be a preponderance of evidence showing how harmful GMOs are, oh wait a second...

walterm852

I eat organic and I eat GMO. I would like to know with a simple label, just like for allergins.

If GMO's were so great, healthy and better for us, why wouldnt Monsanto and the others want to let the public know with labels? I mean they tell us when products are new and improved, why not say its a super food. Because the FDA approves something doesnt mean its as safe as one would think:
Monsanto and FDA regulator relationships
http://rense.com/general33/fd.htm
rBGH tie in
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/25/finally-huge-victory-against-monsanto-milk.aspx

Its sort of laughable, but also scary that this happens today in the US. GMO's can be awesome, the lack of transparency from a company that made Agent Orange DDT PCBs is really not comforting.

Why is our food being made and modified by the worlds largest pesticide manufacturer?

I want to pick my poison;-), a label would help

Strong logic, there must be a preponderance of evidence showing how harmful GMOs are, oh wait a second...

When I pick a protein supplement, I want to know how much is in each serving, so I can make an informed choice. What is so wrong about that?

Maybe your right, just because Monsanto was wrong about products like agent orange means they learned there lesson, "oh wait a second" there was .. PCB's,, "oh wait a second" saccahrin then to Aspertame .... Round up and its ties to many ailments.



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Acg67

I eat organic and I eat GMO. I would like to know with a simple label, just like for allergins.

If GMO's were so great, healthy and better for us, why wouldnt Monsanto and the others want to let the public know with labels? I mean they tell us when products are new and improved, why not say its a super food. Because the FDA approves something doesnt mean its as safe as one would think:
Monsanto and FDA regulator relationships
http://rense.com/general33/fd.htm
rBGH tie in
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/25/finally-huge-victory-against-monsanto-milk.aspx

Its sort of laughable, but also scary that this happens today in the US. GMO's can be awesome, the lack of transparency from a company that made Agent Orange DDT PCBs is really not comforting.

Why is our food being made and modified by the worlds largest pesticide manufacturer?

I want to pick my poison;-), a label would help

Strong logic, there must be a preponderance of evidence showing how harmful GMOs are, oh wait a second...

When I pick a protein supplement, I want to know how much is in each serving, so I can make an informed choice. What is so wrong about that?

Maybe your right, just because Monsanto was wrong about products like agent orange means they learned there lesson, "oh wait a second" there was .. PCB's,, "oh wait a second" saccahrin then to Aspertame .... Round up and its ties to many ailments.

saccharin and aspartame? lots of evidence of how terrible they are for you, oh wait a sec

and by chance which studies are you referring to about round up, the seralini study?

Carnivor0us

I think GMO opponents are idiots, but if people want to choose not to eat them, let them choose.

djsjk

I would highly recommend everyone watch Genetic Roulette to better and fully understand GMO's.

_noob_

Mr_Knight

As a consumer, I have a right to know what I'm buying. If a producer won't tell me, mandatory labeing laws or not, I will find a different producer.

This doesn't apply only to GMO, this applies to all ingredients.

socajam

Why have labels at all, then? Why not just put food out there and let the people take their chances?

Gluten intolerant? Too bad! You have to learn the hard way.
Peanut allergies? Be sure to carry your epipen at all times.
Don't want trans fat? Hope you are a good guesser.

I think informing the public of what is in their product is an important responsibility of the manufacturer.

"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has tested all the GMOs on the market to determine whether they are toxic or allergenic. They are not."

So let's compare apples to apples. And trans fats? Hope you avoid grass fed meats

The FDA is not a credible source any more, it is all about corporations, not the consumers. Let's label everything, and let he consumer make their choice.

bcattoes

No labels for GMO foods are great for organic farmers.

bcattoes

Why have labels at all, then? Why not just put food out there and let the people take their chances?

Gluten intolerant? Too bad! You have to learn the hard way.
Peanut allergies? Be sure to carry your epipen at all times.
Don't want trans fat? Hope you are a good guesser.

I think informing the public of what is in their product is an important responsibility of the manufacturer.

"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has tested all the GMOs on the market to determine whether they are toxic or allergenic. They are not."

So let's compare apples to apples. And trans fats? Hope you avoid grass fed meats

The FDA is not a credible source any more, it is all about corporations, not the consumers. Let's label everything, and let he consumer make their choice.

FDA said BPA in plastic wasn't harmful either.

socajam

I think GMO opponents are idiots, but if people want to choose not to eat them, let them choose.

Your reply shows exactly why GMO is good for you.

bakingforlife

Your post should be taken down ,untrue 100% totally . Irresponsible .

Fayve

I say stick labels on GMO foods. Let those who have this irrational fear of their satan-like upbringing avoid them. More for the rest of us!

castlerobber

And trans fats? Hope you avoid grass fed meats

Natural trans fats, as from grass-fed meats, are not harmful. Man-made trans fats are unquestionably harmful.

Lib_B

boils down to my personal freedom and a corporation (or anyone else's) freedoms end where my nose begins. i'm not saying ban them. i only want labeling. just like i want COOL so i can support american growers, etc. my body. my choice. transparency is essential in any democracy - including food democracy. there will be people such as yourself who will continue to purchase them. more power to you. but i should have a choice. and that's what it boils down to.

FizikallyFit

Thanks for the information, I know I am on the fence about it. On the one hand we need all the help we can get with the food shortage crisis. On the other hand most man made things turn out to be bad lol

I did read that some GMO food has less antioxidants then those "organically grown" simply because the plant needs to create more to survive on its own.

raw_meal

I eat organic and I eat GMO. I would like to know with a simple label, just like for allergins.

If GMO's were so great, healthy and better for us, why wouldnt Monsanto and the others want to let the public know with labels? I mean they tell us when products are new and improved, why not say its a super food. Because the FDA approves something doesnt mean its as safe as one would think:
Monsanto and FDA regulator relationships
http://rense.com/general33/fd.htm
rBGH tie in
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/25/finally-huge-victory-against-monsanto-milk.aspx

Its sort of laughable, but also scary that this happens today in the US. GMO's can be awesome, the lack of transparency from a company that made Agent Orange DDT PCBs is really not comforting.

Why is our food being made and modified by the worlds largest pesticide manufacturer?

I want to pick my poison;-), a label would help

Strong logic, there must be a preponderance of evidence showing how harmful GMOs are, oh wait a second...

When I pick a protein supplement, I want to know how much is in each serving, so I can make an informed choice. What is so wrong about that?

Maybe your right, just because Monsanto was wrong about products like agent orange means they learned there lesson, "oh wait a second" there was .. PCB's,, "oh wait a second" saccahrin then to Aspertame .... Round up and its ties to many ailments.

saccharin and aspartame? lots of evidence of how terrible they are for you, oh wait a sec

and by chance which studies are you referring to about round up, the seralini study?

Here is a European paper on GMO.
http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/glyphosate/glyphosate_report_by_RosemaryMason.pdf

Here is a link for you to a MIT Brief on GMO.
http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/WAPF_Slides_2012/offsite_Seneff.pptx


Some highlights:
Glyphosate is now the #1 herbicide in the U.S. and is increasingly used around the world
Developed and patented by Monsanto in the 1970’s
Came out from under patent in 2000 Inhibits an enzyme in the shikimate pathway involved in synthesis of tyrosine, tryptophan and phenylalanine (the three aromatic amino acids)
Huge expansion of GMO corn, soy, cotton and canola crops has led to sharp increases in the last decade

Is Glyphosate Nontoxic?
Monsanto has argued that glyphosate is harmless to humans because we don’t have the shikimate pathway
However, our gut bacteria DO have this pathway
We depend upon them to supply us with essential amino acids (among many other things)
Tryptophan  serotonin  melatonin
Tyrosine  dopamine, adrenaline, and melanin
Roundup contains surfactants that greatly increase glyphosate’s toxic effects
Insidious effects of glyphosate accumulate over time

Summary
I (Dr. Seneff) believe we need to be very worried about glyphosate in the food and water supplies
Glyphosate’s disruption of gut bacteria, depletion of essential amino acids and minerals, and interference with cytochrome P450 enzymes have widespread consequences
Glyphosate may be the most important factor in the U.S. health crisis related to obesity, autism, Alzheimer’s disease and infant mortality

reneemosley

I will be voting for labeling in WA State. I simply think it is my right to know.

I do not trust Montesano. From a consumer prospective and as a local small farmer supporter. The financial support put toward voting down this initiative by Montesano smells rotten to me.

As far as organics go.....local and organic are it for me. I switched about 2 years ago and immediately my family started commenting on how good the potatoes or brocoli were, thats all I need.

This does not mean I will never buy a GMO labeled product, but I will purchase it as an informed consumer.

Acg67

I eat organic and I eat GMO. I would like to know with a simple label, just like for allergins.

If GMO's were so great, healthy and better for us, why wouldnt Monsanto and the others want to let the public know with labels? I mean they tell us when products are new and improved, why not say its a super food. Because the FDA approves something doesnt mean its as safe as one would think:
Monsanto and FDA regulator relationships
http://rense.com/general33/fd.htm
rBGH tie in
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/25/finally-huge-victory-against-monsanto-milk.aspx

Its sort of laughable, but also scary that this happens today in the US. GMO's can be awesome, the lack of transparency from a company that made Agent Orange DDT PCBs is really not comforting.

Why is our food being made and modified by the worlds largest pesticide manufacturer?

I want to pick my poison;-), a label would help

Strong logic, there must be a preponderance of evidence showing how harmful GMOs are, oh wait a second...

When I pick a protein supplement, I want to know how much is in each serving, so I can make an informed choice. What is so wrong about that?

Maybe your right, just because Monsanto was wrong about products like agent orange means they learned there lesson, "oh wait a second" there was .. PCB's,, "oh wait a second" saccahrin then to Aspertame .... Round up and its ties to many ailments.

saccharin and aspartame? lots of evidence of how terrible they are for you, oh wait a sec

and by chance which studies are you referring to about round up, the seralini study?

Here is a European paper on GMO.
http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/glyphosate/glyphosate_report_by_RosemaryMason.pdf

Here is a link for you to a MIT Brief on GMO.
http://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/WAPF_Slides_2012/offsite_Seneff.pptx


Some highlights:
Glyphosate is now the #1 herbicide in the U.S. and is increasingly used around the world
Developed and patented by Monsanto in the 1970’s
Came out from under patent in 2000 Inhibits an enzyme in the shikimate pathway involved in synthesis of tyrosine, tryptophan and phenylalanine (the three aromatic amino acids)
Huge expansion of GMO corn, soy, cotton and canola crops has led to sharp increases in the last decade

Is Glyphosate Nontoxic?
Monsanto has argued that glyphosate is harmless to humans because we don’t have the shikimate pathway
However, our gut bacteria DO have this pathway
We depend upon them to supply us with essential amino acids (among many other things)
Tryptophan  serotonin  melatonin
Tyrosine  dopamine, adrenaline, and melanin
Roundup contains surfactants that greatly increase glyphosate’s toxic effects
Insidious effects of glyphosate accumulate over time

Summary
I (Dr. Seneff) believe we need to be very worried about glyphosate in the food and water supplies
Glyphosate’s disruption of gut bacteria, depletion of essential amino acids and minerals, and interference with cytochrome P450 enzymes have widespread consequences
Glyphosate may be the most important factor in the U.S. health crisis related to obesity, autism, Alzheimer’s disease and infant mortality

Good thing correlation = causation and European paper references the Seralini joke of a study, hmmmmmm

raw_meal

I reread your original post and the article from "Scientific American". There is no author attached to the article. Why, where's their balls.

So basically the problem and my point is that it may not be the GMO but what they spray on the GMO crop. If this Glyphosate is an issue then it's giving GMO a bad name.

Were the GMO monsanto plants that the FDA tested treated with Glyphosate? If not then it's not a valid test on the operational usage of GMO by the FDA. Did the FDA look this far?

So you have a study that shows that glyphosate is harmless to our gut bacteria? It raises some questions.

If it does harm Monsanto will lose billions.

Also if it shown to cause the Bee CCD then there will be a ban of glyphosate. Notice I did not say GMO.

http://gmoevidence.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/BeesYet_Another_Suspect_in_CCD_2_.pdf

Glyphosate

Glyphosate is an organic phosphonate compound that was first patented as a
broad-spectrum, cat-ionic metal chelator by Stauffer Chemical Company in 1964
(USPTO, 1964), as an herbicide by Monsanto Company in 1974 (USPTO, 1974), and
as an antibiotic by Monsanto Company in 2000 (USPTO, 2000). All of these uses
are based on its ability to ‘grab onto’ and form a chelate complex that immobilizes
mineral nutrients such as Ca, Fe, Co, Cu, Mn, Mg, Ni, Zn, etc. (Glass, 1984). These
metal nutrients serve as metal co-factors for various enzyme systems in plants,
microorganisms, and animals. Once these metal nutrients are chelated by
glyphosate in soil or plants, they become physiologically unavailable as co-factors
for many enzymatic and other physiological functions.

The broad-spectrum toxicity of glyphosate to plants initially simplified weed control,
especially with selectivity provided by genetically engineered glyphosate-tolerant
(Roundup Ready®, RR) plants, so that glyphosate could be applied directly to the
RR plants without killing them. This use has led to an estimated annual
indiscriminate usage of 880 million pounds of this mineral-immobilizing herbicide
and antibiotic in the US. There is nothing in the genetic engineering process,
however, that does anything to the glyphosate that is applied to these plants that
are foraged by bees.

Glyphosate is systemic in plants:As a phloem mobile chemical, glyphosate from
foliar, stem, or root uptake is systemic in plants where it accumulates in flower and
reproductive parts, root and shoot tips, and legume nodules (Huber, 2010; Johal
and Huber, 2009). Much of the glyphosate will remain in the plant and it can
accumulate over years in perennial plants such as alfalfa, vine, fruit, and nut crops
and environmental perennial species. It is an active mineral chelator in the treated
plant for as many as 8 to 15 days after application before becoming sequestered in
flower parts, other meristematic tissues, or soil. As little as 12 gm/acre (1/40th
of
herbicidal rate and well below the general 12-16 % drift rate) inhibits root uptake
and translocation of Fe, Mn, Zn and other nutrients so that plants exposed to
glyphosate directly or through drift in air or water have lower nutrient content
(Bellaloui et al, 2009, 2011; Bott et al, 2008, 2011; Cakmak et al, 2009; Eker et al,
2006; Huber, 2010, 2012; Zobiole et al 2012).

Minerals in glyphosate-tolerant plants may be impacted even more by glyphosate
than those in non-tolerant plants since there is nothing in the genetic engineering
that does anything to nullify the glyphosate and its chelating effect on mineral
nutrients. Since plant products are the source of essential mineral nutrients, bees
may become mineral deficient, malnourished, have a weakened immune system,
and be more susceptible to infections and abiotic (environmental) stresses.

Direct toxicity of glyphosate: Glyphosate is not acutely toxic to bees, but is
chronically toxic to animals, and, like the neonicotinamid insecticides, glyphosate is
a neurotoxin and disrupts the endocrine hormone system at very low exposure
rates (Antoniou et al, 2012; Gasnier et al, 2009) that are well below levels found in
air, water, and, especially, plant tissues (Benbrook, 2012; Huber, 2012).

Purplebunnysarah

And trans fats? Hope you avoid grass fed meats

Natural trans fats, as from grass-fed meats, are not harmful. Man-made trans fats are unquestionably harmful.

How can the body tell them apart?

Koldnomore

It makes no difference whether or not someone believes that GMO is bad (or not bad) it boils down to one thing.. CHOICE. Everyone should have the option to make a CHOICE based on their own goals. Some people CHOOSE not to support Monsanto. Some people CHOOSE to eat meat. Some people CHOOSE to buy local. Some people CHOOSE to eat and buy whatever they can. It's a choice. I don't give a rat's behind what someone else thinks I should do (or not do) because they are not ME and removing my right to make a CHOICE - even if that choice is unpopular - is total BS.

castlerobber

And trans fats? Hope you avoid grass fed meats

Natural trans fats, as from grass-fed meats, are not harmful. Man-made trans fats are unquestionably harmful.

How can the body tell them apart?

Something to do with the chemical structure, and the position of a double bond between molecules. How the body knows, I'm not sure. Sorry, it's been too long since high-school chemistry... ;-)

Purplebunnysarah

And trans fats? Hope you avoid grass fed meats

Natural trans fats, as from grass-fed meats, are not harmful. Man-made trans fats are unquestionably harmful.

How can the body tell them apart?

Something to do with the chemical structure, and the position of a double bond between molecules. How the body knows, I'm not sure. Sorry, it's been too long since high-school chemistry... ;-)

I'm actually a chemist, lol. I didn't realize they were actually different, specific, compounds. But they are actually quite different, so that makes sense.

Of course, while I was looking them up, I also read some articles that suggested trans fats are actually way worse for women than men, too, so there's that...

DivaLuvsDisney

I don't claim to know everything about GMO's but I would like to have the right to be able to NOT eat them.

Here is a link with over 700 case studies as to why GMO's are not safe and hurt the environment.

http://gmofreeusa.org/gmo-science/

For some lighter reading from the Non-GMO Project.

http://www.nongmoproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/GMO_Myths_and_Truths_1.31.pdf

dumb_blondes_rock

Ahhh remember the good ol' days when agent orange, lead and asbestos were safe also? All its going to take is an outbreak of kids born with seal legs, three arms and their insides on the outside for proper studies to be done on gm food.

farway

Ahhh remember the good ol' days when agent orange, lead and asbestos were safe also? All its going to take is an outbreak of kids born with seal legs, three arms and their insides on the outside for proper studies to be done on gm food.

Don't forget Thalidomide in the list of "safe" products

Searching44

I eat organic and I eat GMO. I would like to know with a simple label, just like for allergins.

If GMO's were so great, healthy and better for us, why wouldnt Monsanto and the others want to let the public know with labels? I mean they tell us when products are new and improved, why not say its a super food. Because the FDA approves something doesnt mean its as safe as one would think:
Monsanto and FDA regulator relationships
http://rense.com/general33/fd.htm
rBGH tie in
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/11/25/finally-huge-victory-against-monsanto-milk.aspx

Its sort of laughable, but also scary that this happens today in the US. GMO's can be awesome, the lack of transparency from a company that made Agent Orange DDT PCBs is really not comforting.

Why is our food being made and modified by the worlds largest pesticide manufacturer?

I want to pick my poison;-), a label would help

Well said!