Extremely slow progress! What is going on?!
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Just to put your 1800-2000 calories into context, I'm a 65 year old male 186cm/currently 129kg, down from 141kg in 2 months. I walk often and cycle often as well. I fast 16 hrs a day and generally consume 1500 calories/day, sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less. You can tell when you're burning fat from the taste in your mouth and the fact that although you are in calorie deficit, you don't feel terribly hungry. Well at least that's how it works for me.1
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paulwatts747 wrote: »Just to put your 1800-2000 calories into context, I'm a 65 year old male 186cm/currently 129kg, down from 141kg in 2 months. I walk often and cycle often as well. I fast 16 hrs a day and generally consume 1500 calories/day, sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less. You can tell when you're burning fat from the taste in your mouth and the fact that although you are in calorie deficit, you don't feel terribly hungry. Well at least that's how it works for me.
What taste tells you that you are burning fat?1 -
It's like the bottom of a birdcage. It's well documented.1
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paulwatts747 wrote: »It's like the bottom of a birdcage. It's well documented.
Don't recall tasting a single birdcage bottom, the whole 50 pounds down at a pretty good clip. Glad to have avoided it . . . since it's so well documented.
Sorry to hear - sincerely - that that's how it works for you!5 -
paulwatts747 wrote: »It's like the bottom of a birdcage. It's well documented.
Weird I've lost plenty of weight and never tasted anything like that. Care to site your sources?3 -
Google is your friend. Try "ketosis". Obviously it doesn't happen to everyone. It's really not anything that sugar free gum can't fix.
While I'm here I'll just say that I am very reticent to post in this place because there is always someone who will suggest that you are wrong, or lying, or making it up. It's worse than Facebook.1 -
paulwatts747 wrote: »Google is your friend. Try "ketosis". Obviously it doesn't happen to everyone. It's really not anything that sugar free gum can't fix.
While I'm here I'll just say that I am very reticent to post in this place because there is always someone who will suggest that you are wrong, or lying, or making it up. It's worse than Facebook.
Ah: I can believe it, if in ketosis. Presumably it's unlikely to happen to most people who stick to carbs around 50% of calories, as I did. Low carb is not my jam. I should've guessed when you mentioned not only the taste, but also not being hungry. While I wasn't hungry at the 50%-ish carbs either, I know that some people find that reducing carbs/increasing fats helps with appetite control. Seems to be working for you, which is great!6 -
Who has actually licked a birdcage lol.
This thread is blowing my mind.
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paulwatts747 wrote: »Google is your friend. Try "ketosis". Obviously it doesn't happen to everyone. It's really not anything that sugar free gum can't fix.
While I'm here I'll just say that I am very reticent to post in this place because there is always someone who will suggest that you are wrong, or lying, or making it up. It's worse than Facebook.
So it only happens to people who are in ketosis??
In that case, agreed, obviously it doesn't happen to everyone - since the vast majority of weight losers do so without going into ketosis.
Sounds a most unpleasant side effect of keto diet - yet another reason I am glad I did not lose weight via that route
Also agreed - this forum is worse than Facebook ( or better depending on your perspective) - unlike Facebook you can't just make unfounded sweeping statements without being asked to provide evidence or cite sources.
I wouldn't call that suggesting you are wrong or making it up or lying though - I would call it being asked to provide evidence or cite sources.6 -
paulwatts747 wrote: »Just to put your 1800-2000 calories into context, I'm a 65 year old male 186cm/currently 129kg, down from 141kg in 2 months. I walk often and cycle often as well. I fast 16 hrs a day and generally consume 1500 calories/day, sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less. You can tell when you're burning fat from the taste in your mouth and the fact that although you are in calorie deficit, you don't feel terribly hungry. Well at least that's how it works for me.
1500 calories does not seem enough for a 186 cm tall male ( about 6ft 2 in for non metric readers)
That is absolute minimum for males, most of whom will be shorter than 186cm.
To put that into context I was a 163 cm tall female and I lost on almost that amount ( 1460)
And that is net amount - one is supposed to eat back exercise calories on top of the base level.( which I did)
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paulwatts747 wrote: »Google is your friend. Try "ketosis". Obviously it doesn't happen to everyone. It's really not anything that sugar free gum can't fix.
While I'm here I'll just say that I am very reticent to post in this place because there is always someone who will suggest that you are wrong, or lying, or making it up. It's worse than Facebook.
It’s not necessary to be in ketosis to lose fat. I lost 125 lbs, mostly fat, without ever dropping below 150 g carbs daily.
However, it’s true that ketosis creates horrifying breath. I compare it to the smell of a dead squirrel in a trash can on a hot day. I never thought about what that breath tastes like, yuck. The smell is supposed to be acetone, but I’ve smelled acetone and it doesn’t smell like that.
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OP if you are still reading. It's extremely uncommon for my weight to be stable for more than 5 days if I am actively and carefully attempting to lose weight. I'd suggest that you maintain your exercise, and slowly reduce your food intake. Between 10-33 calories a day. Hopefully you see a loss within a week or two.
Keep a written record of your daily intake, exercise and weigh daily. If you find weighing daily too much try as often as you can. If you are still not losing in 2 weeks post here with your numbers.0 -
Reduce your calories by 10 - 33 a day??
Boy, that would be slow adjustment.
I agree with your basic advice - but I would make adjustments a bit faster than that.4 -
Take a blood test, blood profile. Check your A1C long term glucose levels, insulin resistance and get a picture of what's going on there, too.0
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paulwatts747 wrote: »It's like the bottom of a birdcage. It's well documented.
I lost over 40 pounds and the only time I have ever had a "birdcage" taste in my mouth is when I've been hungover.6 -
I'm fascinated by the directions this thread has taken!
OP is a shorter female doing a modicum of daily exercise and eating 1900 cals per day. She's eating too much to lose weight.10 -
I'm fascinated by the directions this thread has taken!
OP is a shorter female doing a modicum of daily exercise and eating 1900 cals per day. She's eating too much to lose weight.
yes thats it in a nutshell ( or a bird cage )
OP is eating too much without doing the activity level to balance it out
with your stats and the level of activity/excercise you are doing you need to reduce your calories
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