Fruit
Walkingwithdogs
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Is it possible to eat "too much" fruit when dieting ?..I'm just starting out and have a fair bit to lose...I love fruits sales and Veg....I'm having fruit in Greek yogurt for breakfast and I love it...but is it too much...typical day....nectarine Clementine strawberries in yogurt for breakfast...then apple later in day for a snack, or a few grapes...I've just done my shopping list and it looks like 50% fruit...plus salads veggies and plenty of chicken...??
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I don't think there is a problem if you like eating this way (unless you have blood sugar issues).
I would be mindful that it doesn't crowd out other important nutrients and macros. You mention chicken and Greek yogurt, so hopefully you are getting enough protein.
But not a single mention of (healthy) fats such as olive oil, avocado, nuts, fatty fish,...
Fat is an important macro too, so make sure you're not too low on your fats.5 -
Fruit is pretty high in sugar so you have to be careful with it sometimes. But the MFP method is that if it fits into your calories it's OK. If tracking the sugar content is important to you, you can add it on your diary columns to make sure you're not having too much.
It also depends what your goals are though, and what your lifestyle was like before. If you were eating loads of chocolate and chips before then eating a load of fruit is going to be an improvement
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I eat salmon and sardines weekly....I have just also ordered some advocados..and i use olive oil in my cooking...I also eat pork and beef...lots of vegetables...and try to cut down on potatoes...etc...is this ok ?
When I went to the drs probably a year ago I was told I was borderline type 2 diabetes....a house move and lockdown has prevented me from going back for a second blood test.....so although I feel perfectly fine I'm.mindful of this....and now I've started this new way of eating I'm just abit concerned if the fruit could be an issue ?0 -
E.g.....breakfast on Sunday was...5 strawberries...10 green grapes...half dessert apple...half Clementine...half nectarine...in 150g of full fat Greek yogurt ??2
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Trouble with me is I never eat enough...I'll have breakfast (most days) then probably don't eat again till evening...plus snacking on rubbish in day...I've found it hard to actually eat 1200 calories a day as a three meal a day...but I'm doing it and I'm sticking with it......also I'm eating my main meal earlier in the evening now as opposed to 7/8 o'clock because I go to bed early but rise early too...I've usually done a two/three mile walk before 7.30....this was recently put on hold as my older dog was poorly....but now she's ok again we are back at it...
I really need this to work for me, I have a long way to go....sensible eating now...all junk food has been binned and I've totally changed my minset about my health....I lost 3 1/5 on my first week...probably a lot of water, but I'll take that....1 -
I'll be honest, I know nothing about diabetes or being borderline diabetic, so that's way beyond anything I feel comfortable advising on with regards to fruit intake.1
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Appreciate your honesty...I know nothing about it either 🙄0
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If you're borderline diabetic, you should be wary of too much sugar / carbs. The suggestion from Diabetes UK is to keep below 130g a day - which you may be exceeding if you're having a lot of fruit - but also to spread your carb intake through the day rather than having it all in one meal.
It's recommended to have some protein with your carbs, as it helps stop your blood sugar spiking. Greek yoghurt with your breakfast fruit is a good idea. Maybe have some cheese with your apple?3 -
That's helpful, thankyou.0
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I would like someone to have a look at my food intake this far and give an honest opinion as to my meal/food choices...if I knew how to make my diary open then this would be gratefully appreciated...🤔0
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Oh i haven't messed with any of the food settings as such....I signed up to join put my weight age and goals in and went with what MFP..offered...0
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The bigger thing is eating a ton of fruit is I would question how much protein you are getting. Generally, too much of a specific food will end up crowding out other nutrients. Given fats and proteins are essential, I would ask how much you are getting of these two?
You also haven't given your stats or discuss you activity level, so it's hard to make an assessment if you are eating an appropriate level of calories. If you want to expand on your stats, activity level and discuss what your protein and fat levels look like, that would be good.2 -
I will open my diary if you could tell me how.....I am 57 weight at start (31st July) was 210lb now 206.5lb (2nd Aug)my goal is 140lb so 70lb to lose. I walk on average 3 mile's every morning this includes inclines aswell as declines...anything else you need ?0
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I may not be eating tins of fruits ...maybe it just feels like I am now I'm committed to the weight loss...I'm obviously eating more than I did before...replacing junk snacks with fruit etc...everything that was set on my diary looks to be within the allowances set by MFP...I'd just feel happier if someone could cast their eye over it for me..1
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That's tons....not tins !!0
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I suggest that a pre or even a diabetic will see glucose improvement with weight loss. There are cases of high carb vegans putting their diabetes in remission with a high carb diet as long as they lose their excess weight.10
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psychod787 wrote: »I suggest that a pre or even a diabetic will see glucose improvement with weight loss. There are cases of high carb vegans putting their diabetes in remission with a high carb diet as long as they lose their excess weight.
This is what I am.hoping for aswell as other health benefits..:)0 -
In my entire lifetime, I've never found fruit to be a problem. I don't recall ever eating 2 or 3 apples or 2 peaches at one time. Obesity is the main factor that makes a mess out of your blood glucose.
All baked goods contain the trifecta ingredients. Added sugars, fats and flour. They may all look differently but they contain the trifecta. The trifecta affects my blood glucose but fruits never have.
Denise, you didn't mention any issues with your blood glucose. You're wondering about fruit for dieting purposes. CICO. CICO. CICO.2 -
Diatonic12 wrote: »In my entire lifetime, I've never found fruit to be a problem. I don't recall ever eating 2 or 3 apples or 2 peaches at one time. Obesity is the main factor that makes a mess out of your blood glucose.
All baked goods contain the trifecta ingredients. Added sugars, fats and flour. They may all look differently but they contain the trifecta. The trifecta affects my blood glucose but fruits never have.
Denise, you didn't mention any issues with your blood glucose. You're wondering about fruit for dieting purposes. CICO. CICO. CICO.
She did mention being told by her doctor that she was borderline type 2 diabetic a year ago.1 -
Alrighty, then. I did miss that. Denise, take another test and see exactly where you stand. I have relatives who don't fast before they take any tests and their results are a roll of the dice. Confirmation is good.2
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psychod787 wrote: »I suggest that a pre or even a diabetic will see glucose improvement with weight loss. There are cases of high carb vegans putting their diabetes in remission with a high carb diet as long as they lose their excess weight.
I definitely agree that weight loss and exercise will yield the best results. I would also suggest that resistance training helps.
Second, generally when you aim to lose weight, you still reduce carbs, even as a vegan or plant based eater. If a person has issues with glucose control, eating a ton of carbs is not the greatest of decisions. Can you get away with it? Maybe, but lowering carbs in favor to protein and healthy fats, will likely yield better results.
But as always, dietary compliance is key to success.4 -
denisen6240 wrote: »I will open my diary if you could tell me how.....I am 57 weight at start (31st July) was 210lb now 206.5lb (2nd Aug)my goal is 140lb so 70lb to lose. I walk on average 3 mile's every morning this includes inclines aswell as declines...anything else you need ?
Your diary isn't open yet. We can look at it. Ideally, you would want near 100-120g of protein based on your end state goals.1 -
I think I have opened my diary now ??0
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denisen6240 wrote: »I think I have opened my diary now ??
Are you using a food scale? A lot of your entries don't appear to be weighed? 2 scrambled eggs were they cooked with any oil, milk, or butter? Did you make the cottage pie listed? How did you determine the calories for most of your fruit listed?1 -
denisen6240 wrote: »I think I have opened my diary now ??
I find entries like "Generic - Tea - Cup of Tea With Skimmed Milk, 2 mug" to not be very helpful. How much milk I add to a cup of tea may be very different than what you would add. For skim milk, it may not make a huge difference but little inaccuracies can have a way of adding up.3 -
When it comes to diabetes, refined carbs and added sugar are typically the problem, not fruit sugar. The amount of fruit you described shouldn’t be a problem. Weight loss will help your possible browser line diabetes.0
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denisen6240 wrote: »I think I have opened my diary now ??
Are you using a food scale? A lot of your entries don't appear to be weighed? 2 scrambled eggs were they cooked with any oil, milk, or butter? Did you make the cottage pie listed? How did you determine the calories for most of your fruit listed?
No scales at theoment due to house move...they are in "a box" somewhere, desparately trying to track them down.......I scan the packets of everything I buy to get the best/closest cal count as I can...scrambled eggs are cooked without anything being added at all...I made the cottage pie from scratch.....so 250g lean mince..1 med onion ..etc...
It's a mission to find my scales...1 -
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janejellyroll wrote: »denisen6240 wrote: »I think I have opened my diary now ??
I find entries like "Generic - Tea - Cup of Tea With Skimmed Milk, 2 mug" to not be very helpful. How much milk I add to a cup of tea may be very different than what you would add. For skim milk, it may not make a huge difference but little inaccuracies can have a way of adding up.
Point taken...it was the nearest I could find at that time ..0 -
PsuLemon...I am in the process of trying to make a conscious effort to cut down on my carbs0
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