How to fix metabolic adaptation?
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psychod787 wrote: »60k steps? Hell, you must just walk all day! No way to "fix" metabolic adaptation per se. I mean, unless you want to "repay" the energy gap. Why do I feel like I'm being trolled? 60k steps a day is like 30 miles. If burn 100 cals a mile, you are burning 3k cals before rmr and tef are taken into account.
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arizonaj22 wrote: »I also weigh everything on my food scale and Do Not eat anything else besides what I track. For some reason the picture option wont function to upload my food journal but heres the written out version in form of calories per food
300 calories of chicken breast
100 calories watermelon
70 cal blueberry
150 cal beans
150 cal grits
100 cal sweet potato
120 calorie unsweetened almond milk
100 cal cocoa puff
100 cal HNcheerios
100 cal honeycomb cereal
150 cal tuna
250 cal beef jerky
100 cal banana
200 cal soup
I'll round it to 2000(its 1990 cal)
Anyways that's a deficit for the average sedentary male and I'm over here doing all this activity and gaining fat just by looking at food!
I thought it might be due to undereating aka starvation mode. Which is why I wanted to reverse diet and add calories but it seems that the more I add the more I gain(weight)
I put what I ate yesterday in my new diary its public ..0 -
nanamerriman2020 wrote: »Bottom line: if you grew 2" in the past few months, it is very reasonable for you to also put on weight. Trying to get back to the weight you knew when you were shorter is probably not a realistic goal.
Guys tend to reach their full height by age 18, but that is not an absolute.
Yes but I see a dramatic change in my fat like bigger stomach. Waistline, hip, 0 veins now and pants fit tighter and the 5'11 thing is just 2 inches0 -
arizonaj22 wrote: »nanamerriman2020 wrote: »Bottom line: if you grew 2" in the past few months, it is very reasonable for you to also put on weight. Trying to get back to the weight you knew when you were shorter is probably not a realistic goal.
Guys tend to reach their full height by age 18, but that is not an absolute.
Yes but I see a dramatic change in my fat like bigger stomach. Waistline, hip, 0 veins now and pants fit tighter and the 5'11 thing is just 2 inches
Your diary is empty when I viewed it, and what do you do that you walk close to 40 miles a day?1 -
I can't even find where to view the diary lol..0
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KrissDotCom wrote: »I can't even find where to view the diary lol..
Do you mean this:
https://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/arizonaj22?date=2020-08-06 ?
Or are you referring to the fact that there are no entries in it for this last week?4 -
Devil’s advocate here. MFP has been wonky lately. Maybe?0
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kshama2001 wrote: »KrissDotCom wrote: »I can't even find where to view the diary lol..
Do you mean this:
https://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/arizonaj22?date=2020-08-06 ?
Or are you referring to the fact that there are no entries in it for this last week?
Yeah that, I guess you can't view from the app.0 -
There isn't any entries for the last month lol..1
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I checked the OPs posting history to see if there were any clues to what might be going on. And a Nov post mentioned they were an Asian woman who was bulking.
Because OP mentioned in this thread that 2000 would be a deficit for a sedentary man, I assumed OP was male.
OP, if you are a menstruating female, has your cycle been normal during this time of weight gain?
And you still haven't clarified the height issue - did you grow 2 inches in the last 4 months, or were one or both of those heights a typo?
It would also be great if you could clarify what you are doing all day to get the daily step count you are getting.
Sorry this was an account my sister using at the time but gave it to me because she had premium but I ended it because I didnt feel it was worth the money. I'm a male1 -
rheddmobile wrote: »If the OP really did gain 2 inches and also was in the process of transforming from a scrawny boy to a grown man, the weight gain may be perfectly normal.
30 miles a day is a lot of walking. Like, 8 to 10 hours a day. Is that really what’s happening?
Definitely I understand that usually taller=gain of weight which is normal. However, this much for almost 2 inches AND a huge growth in my stomach,hips,waist tighter cloths etc... should not be happening imho0 -
L1zardQueen wrote: »Devil’s advocate here. MFP has been wonky lately. Maybe?
Yes I agree. It has rarely opened up to the point where I can log. Fortunately I was able to put the foods I had yesterday in today's log0 -
You don't gain 40 pounds in four months (after eating the same and increasing exercise) because of AT.
It just doesn't work that way.
Only the most extreme dieters have longterm down-regulation. The rest of us mortals reset their metabolism to normal within a week (unless you're a Biggest Loser contestant who was undereating and over-exercising.)
If you lost weight and then started exercising MORE and gained weight on the same calories (that is your stated premise) then you need to see a doctor.
You don't have a log for us to view, and none of the rest of your story makes sense. See an endocrinologist. Ask for a referral - they will be able to figure this out. Don't go to a regular GP, because I don't think they will believe you either.9 -
You reset muscle efficiency by detuning your adaptation.
In other words you do nothing or something else till your tuned body... de-tunes!
It is the reverse of performing better.
If you're walking around all day to burn calories to control your weight you do have an issue that should be discussed with your doctor and a referral to a specialist.... you're not going to spend the next 60 to 80 years walking like this every day all day.....
Take a couple of rest days.
Full rest days.
No walking around.
Couch all day. 6,000; not 60,000 maximum steps
If you can't, ask yourself why you cannot and whether this is healthy. And discuss your findings as per above.8 -
You reset muscle efficiency by detuning your adaptation.
In other words you do nothing or something else till your tuned body... de-tunes!
It is the reverse of performing better.
If you're walking around all day to burn calories to control your weight you do have an issue that should be discussed with your doctor and a referral to a specialist.... you're not going to spend the next 60 to 80 years walking like this every day all day.....
Take a couple of rest days.
Full rest days.
No walking around.
Couch all day. 6,000; not 60,000 maximum steps
If you can't, ask yourself why you cannot and whether this is healthy. And discuss your findings as per above.
Thank You very much for the advice! So this might be too much to ask but do you know how long it takes on average to de-tune? Maybe a week? And I'm just assuming that symptoms that my body reset is just losing weight once I reintroduce normal activity(lifting and moderate walking like 15k steps while maintaining a moderate diet)?2 -
arizonaj22 wrote: »OP, I'm not sure if this is a typo or not. Are you saying that 4 months ago you were 5'9" and 135 lbs and now you are 5'11" and 175 lbs? Are you still growing?
Regardless, 135 lbs would be quite underweight for 5'9 or 5'11.
I'm just having a tough time getting my head around all your numbers. You are talking about getting a number of steps that would require walking for most of the day, all your calorie numbers are nice round numbers, your weight gain is again round dramatic numbers.
If you have in fact gained 40 lbs in 4 months while eating 2000 calories daily and taking 50,000 steps a day, all I can suggest is a doctor's appointment.
I already asked like 5 different doctors who specialize in dietary fields and nutritionists and all did not have a direct answer. They just pulled the "everyone has a different metabolism " card or something along the lines of it. I was 135 after doing like a 3 day fast to lose those final vanity pounds and just wanted to test myself. But normal weight at the end of my cut was around the 140s
Did you have those tests at the end of this fast? Some metabolic testing reacts to fasting and gives incorrect results. Sure, those tests should be done x hrs after the last meal, but several days of fasting can throw the results off.3 -
arizonaj22 wrote: »nanamerriman2020 wrote: »Bottom line: if you grew 2" in the past few months, it is very reasonable for you to also put on weight. Trying to get back to the weight you knew when you were shorter is probably not a realistic goal.
Guys tend to reach their full height by age 18, but that is not an absolute.
Yes but I see a dramatic change in my fat like bigger stomach. Waistline, hip, 0 veins now and pants fit tighter and the 5'11 thing is just 2 inches
Okay, but 135 at 5’9” is quite thin for a man. And 175 at 5’11” is normal weight. If you are Asian, the numbers look a little different, but I’m still concerned about your self-perception. It is normal to fill out dramatically when going from a teen to a man.6 -
arizonaj22 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »60k steps? Hell, you must just walk all day! No way to "fix" metabolic adaptation per se. I mean, unless you want to "repay" the energy gap. Why do I feel like I'm being trolled? 60k steps a day is like 30 miles. If burn 100 cals a mile, you are burning 3k cals before rmr and tef are taken into account.
Do you work night shifts? Why are you walking from 3am?7 -
arizonaj22 wrote: »OP, I'm not sure if this is a typo or not. Are you saying that 4 months ago you were 5'9" and 135 lbs and now you are 5'11" and 175 lbs? Are you still growing?
Regardless, 135 lbs would be quite underweight for 5'9 or 5'11.
I'm just having a tough time getting my head around all your numbers. You are talking about getting a number of steps that would require walking for most of the day, all your calorie numbers are nice round numbers, your weight gain is again round dramatic numbers.
If you have in fact gained 40 lbs in 4 months while eating 2000 calories daily and taking 50,000 steps a day, all I can suggest is a doctor's appointment.
I already asked like 5 different doctors who specialize in dietary fields and nutritionists and all did not have a direct answer. They just pulled the "everyone has a different metabolism " card or something along the lines of it. I was 135 after doing like a 3 day fast to lose those final vanity pounds and just wanted to test myself. But normal weight at the end of my cut was around the 140s
Did you have those tests at the end of this fast? Some metabolic testing reacts to fasting and gives incorrect results. Sure, those tests should be done x hrs after the last meal, but several days of fasting can throw the results off.
Oh no no my apologies if I was unclear. It was just near the end of my cut where I was on my high horse and tried to see how low I could go(like how boxers go for super low weigh ins. I was excited because of creed the movie and just decided to try to aim for a low as possible weigh in)1 -
Redordeadhead wrote: »arizonaj22 wrote: »psychod787 wrote: »60k steps? Hell, you must just walk all day! No way to "fix" metabolic adaptation per se. I mean, unless you want to "repay" the energy gap. Why do I feel like I'm being trolled? 60k steps a day is like 30 miles. If burn 100 cals a mile, you are burning 3k cals before rmr and tef are taken into account.
Do you work night shifts? Why are you walking from 3am?
Yes I volunteer at midnight mission type food banks and homeless shelters which often peak at the early am5
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