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Why is tracking steps a thing?

DevilsFan1
DevilsFan1 Posts: 342 Member
I honestly don't get it. Why are people tracking how much they walk around during the day doing normal activities? I suppose if you're always sitting that it could be a motivator to get up and move, but when I see people complain that their Fitbit isn't recording the steps they're taking when grocery shopping I am legitimately puzzled.

To add to that, it seems that many people who track steps think that gives them the license to eat back whatever calories their tracker says they are burning. Walking around doing things you normally do isn't really exercise that is worth tracking.

Then again, maybe I'm the crazy one.
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  • durhammfp
    durhammfp Posts: 494 Member
    I use my steps tracker to evaluate how much activity I've done. It helps me set my activity level correctly in the guided setup, or gives me a good baseline to figure out if I'm adding back an appropriate number of activity calories.

    Note that MFP's system is designed for you to add back your exercise calories because it uses the NEAT method, NOT the TDEE method. NEAT methodology is your calories burned just staying alive + daily activity expenditure. TDEE is NEAT + purposeful exercise.

    Since MFP uses the NEAT method, it is not using a purposeful exercise factor in its equations. The only activity setting it accounts for is the day to day activity setting you choose. It's hard to get this right sometimes because the descriptors given are not exactly accurate, and many people will choose sedentary when they are actually lightly active, or will choose active when they aren't. There's been a good baseline given for converting daily living step count into MFP activity levels:

    Sedentary = less than 5000
    Low activity = 5000-7499
    Somewhat active = 7500-9999
    Active = more than 10000
    Highly active = more than 12500

    from https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10727064/steps-activity-level#latest

    I have a desk job and therefore spend most days a week sitting. My step counter will show that without purposeful exercise, I get around 2,000-3,000 steps a day. So I set my MFP activity level to sedentary when I use the guided setup. right now I'm shooting for 1.5 lbs/wk loss rate. Then when I do get my purposeful walks or high intensive activities in like push mowing my grass, I use the MFP entry for that activity and count around 75% of the time spent to get a calorie addition to my daily totals.

    This is how MFP is designed to work. I like this because I don't steadily get the same activity every day; some days, I don't get anything added to my activity for the day; other days, I'm super busy and can get 18,000 steps. I prefer to use my baseline level and add back my activity calories as MFP is designed to do. This is also why MFP's deficit goal will be lower than other deficits calculated by other websites - it depends on which method that website is using - you'll find that many use the TDEE method.

    The TDEE method is designed to give you one number to strive for every day and not to very like hte NEAT will, so with the TDEE method, you account for EVERY activity you do during your waking hours and pick an activity level from that to get your deficit. Then you strive to be at that activity level every day or most days out of a week, but you don't add anything back because you've already accounted for it when you picked your activity level.

    You can mimic the TDEE method in MFP if you prefer to use it by just setting your activity level to reflect your entire day's activity.


    I know that MFP has somewhere around 250-350 calorie separate for my goals and stats between each of the categories. By using my step counter and the estimation above, I can figure if I'm eating back enough exercise calories or too many. By MFP standards, I should be eating around 2000 calories for an active range of 10,000 - 13,000 calories, which is around 600 calories over my sedentary deficit. So on days where I get over 10,000 steps, I check to see that the amount of exercise calories I add back is in the neighborhood of 600 calories. My step is a very helpful tool in establishing my activity for the day.


    Step counters and counting steps is a useful tool and strategy in the tool box of things people can try to help them successfully lose weight and keep it of, just like various diet types, intermittent fasting, etc. Some people benefit from some tools better than others, and for some people some of the tools don't work while others will. Its best to have a variety of tools to choose from to be able to custom fit the best strategy to your personal lifestyle.

    And just because one particular tool doesn't work for one person, doesn't mean that tool is useless or people who use it are being silly; it just means it doesn't work for that one person who needs to try a different tool to find what will work for them.

    ^^^ Pretty much all this for me too. Setting MFP on "sedentary" and using my pedometer to calculate calories burned in excess of the sedentary setting, those are exactly the two tools I used to lose 47 pounds. Easy peasy. Now that I'm running a lot, instead of just walking, I'm having to figure out how to calculate my energy expenditure a little more precisely. But for a long time MFP+pedometer was the ticket for me.
  • Fuzzipeg
    Fuzzipeg Posts: 2,301 Member
    There was a study reported in The New Scientist back in May or June, I think. The article referred to the distance waked by Glaswegian Postal Delivery workers who on average walk 18000 steps in a delivery round. Anthropologist referred to in this article considered this to be in the range of steps equating to the distance on average our distant ancestors would walk in their daily round of gathering and hunting.
  • AwesomeSquirrel
    AwesomeSquirrel Posts: 644 Member
    I use the step tracker on my phone to gauge my activity level and I do see a direct correlation between the daily average per month and weight lost in that month. I don’t alter my eating based on steps - I’ve ranged from 2500 to 18 000 in august but shoot for an average of 10 000.

    My step tracker really only tracks my outdoor walks though since I rarely carry my phone around indoors. Doesn’t matter to me as the margin of error is pretty constant and accounted for in my head.
  • PAPYRUS3
    PAPYRUS3 Posts: 13,259 Member
    DevilsFan1 wrote: »
    Fair enough. And if over time your tracker has shown to be accurate in terms of calorie burn then it makes sense to eat back what you want if calculated correctly.

    I will admit that my experiences with friends who use step trackers have shown that they didn't benefit them at all from a fitness perspective. I have many overweight friends who use the steps they normally take during the day as evidence that they exercised when in fact they have simply done the same amount of activity they always do. Maybe I just need new friends. :D

    ...you're not a very loyal friend are you?🤣🤣🤣
  • lynn_glenmont
    lynn_glenmont Posts: 10,097 Member
    PAPYRUS3 wrote: »
    PAPYRUS3 wrote: »
    DevilsFan1 wrote: »
    Fair enough. And if over time your tracker has shown to be accurate in terms of calorie burn then it makes sense to eat back what you want if calculated correctly.

    I will admit that my experiences with friends who use step trackers have shown that they didn't benefit them at all from a fitness perspective. I have many overweight friends who use the steps they normally take during the day as evidence that they exercised when in fact they have simply done the same amount of activity they always do. Maybe I just need new friends. :D

    ...you're not a very loyal friend are you?🤣🤣🤣

    Has your cat taken revenge yet for the indignity of being subjected to a watermelon helmet?

    good point....I guess I have my own issues to deal with...

    Me, too. How could I have thought there was a cat large enough for a watermelon helmet?! Lime?
  • TonyB0588
    TonyB0588 Posts: 9,520 Member
    We are still pretty locked down where I live and I am working from home. I have a lot of meetings and I pace during those meetings. So far today I've logged just shy of 30,000 steps. That's a pretty significant amount of activity.

    HOW can you get 30,000 steps while locked down at home? I struggle to reach that magical 10,000 that so many people talk about. I have two trackers, one set to 6,000 and the other at 7,000. Now I actively go for walks again I can actually reach get 6,000 easily in less than an hour, plus the remaining casual steps for the day.
  • PAPYRUS3
    PAPYRUS3 Posts: 13,259 Member
    PAPYRUS3 wrote: »
    PAPYRUS3 wrote: »
    DevilsFan1 wrote: »
    Fair enough. And if over time your tracker has shown to be accurate in terms of calorie burn then it makes sense to eat back what you want if calculated correctly.

    I will admit that my experiences with friends who use step trackers have shown that they didn't benefit them at all from a fitness perspective. I have many overweight friends who use the steps they normally take during the day as evidence that they exercised when in fact they have simply done the same amount of activity they always do. Maybe I just need new friends. :D

    ...you're not a very loyal friend are you?🤣🤣🤣

    Has your cat taken revenge yet for the indignity of being subjected to a watermelon helmet?

    good point....I guess I have my own issues to deal with...

    Me, too. How could I have thought there was a cat large enough for a watermelon helmet?! Lime?

    you are correct...kitty got limed...
  • SnifterPug
    SnifterPug Posts: 746 Member
    We all know that the ten thousand step target was originally marketing blurb from a Japanese pedometer manufacturer, right?
    https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/10000-steps-a-day-or-fewer-2019071117305