Do you wish adult conversations still existed?

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  • Diatonic12
    Diatonic12 Posts: 32,344 Member
    @4legsRbetterthan2 Understood and appreciated. You're good at your job. Smooth.
  • B_Plus_Effort
    B_Plus_Effort Posts: 311 Member
    I'm 93% certain half the time that my thread has been hijacked :/
  • KosmosKitten
    KosmosKitten Posts: 10,476 Member
    muszyngr wrote: »
    I'm 93% certain half the time that my thread has been hijacked :/

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    ... I'm a butt, I know. I'll see myself out now. :D
  • 4legsRbetterthan2
    4legsRbetterthan2 Posts: 19,590 MFP Moderator
    muszyngr wrote: »
    I'm 93% certain half the time that my thread has been hijacked :/

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    ... I'm a butt, I know. I'll see myself out now. :D

    I thought it was a very mature conversation, isn't that what we were going for? ....maybe you didn't tell enough jokes ;)
  • 4legsRbetterthan2
    4legsRbetterthan2 Posts: 19,590 MFP Moderator
    Diatonic12 wrote: »
    @4legsRbetterthan2 Understood and appreciated. You're good at your job. Smooth.

    I always wonder how annoying I seem when I do that. On the other hand, I have been around a while and know how things tend to turn out. I'd rather throw out a quick reminder when I see common fodder arise than have to do warnings. I don't really like warning most of the time, and it's alot more work....
  • B_Plus_Effort
    B_Plus_Effort Posts: 311 Member
    [...] We are sort of this way too, mostly we don't see eye to eye on women's rights [...]

    do you mind providing some examples?
  • Diatonic12
    Diatonic12 Posts: 32,344 Member
    edited October 2020
    @4legsRbetterthan2 Don't change a thing. You're a smooth operator.

    @muszyngr Adult convos exist but we're approaching burnout at warp speed. Many are exhausted, depleted and drained. We've been in this 'Rona state of mind for so long I'm wondering what it's going to feel like to not have it around. We're the support system for our older family members and they rely on us. Jobs, businesses. How do we get back to some semblance of normalcy. Our numbers are really spiking out here and they're going up every single week.

    Stress. She do take a bite.

    The wind is howling like a big dog. It covers up all of my hard work just as fast as I can shovel the snow. It's Groundhog Day. Humor is good medicine and it keeps me going. The more stressed I am the sillier I want to be.
    I want to laugh at something. Anything.

    It feels like we're slogging through wet cement, a daily Tough Mudder competition.

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  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,724 Member

    So per this thread: I wish adults could have serious conversations (wherever they may occur) without flying into a rage, accusing people of being bigots/racists/whatever other dehumanizing thing you can say about a person while also being able to see viewpoints outside of their own to help inform their future opinions and actions. I just recognize that here is not that place as MFP has a ToS and forum rules we agreed upon when we signed up.

    It frustrates me because we do have a really cool bunch of people who have been around here a while and whom you can have very insightful discussions with successfully. Unfortunately thats like 1% of members, and they are heavily outnumbered by the other 99% of randos who continuously filter through this place. I do love those magic moments when somehow an interesting thread only has the 1% in it and a really good convo can take place.

    If I'm ever of the rebellious over-the-top character, please smack me before I say/do something really over the wall to get myself kicked out. I'm not sure what I'd do without this place. I know I've touched upon rebellion a coupla times :( and caused havoc to ensue. Sometimes I don't know when to STFU or when what's coming outta my mouth sounds worse than I think it does.

    I love the deep conversations, the advice, the so-funny-I-could-die threads, and everything else in between. They make me think, reconsider, laugh and survive every day.
  • 4legsRbetterthan2
    4legsRbetterthan2 Posts: 19,590 MFP Moderator
    muszyngr wrote: »
    [...] We are sort of this way too, mostly we don't see eye to eye on women's rights [...]

    do you mind providing some examples?

    he is pretty pro-life and I am more pro-choice leaning
    we have different opinions on what should be considered sexual harassment in the work place and how it should be handled
  • 4legsRbetterthan2
    4legsRbetterthan2 Posts: 19,590 MFP Moderator
    ReenieHJ wrote: »

    So per this thread: I wish adults could have serious conversations (wherever they may occur) without flying into a rage, accusing people of being bigots/racists/whatever other dehumanizing thing you can say about a person while also being able to see viewpoints outside of their own to help inform their future opinions and actions. I just recognize that here is not that place as MFP has a ToS and forum rules we agreed upon when we signed up.

    It frustrates me because we do have a really cool bunch of people who have been around here a while and whom you can have very insightful discussions with successfully. Unfortunately thats like 1% of members, and they are heavily outnumbered by the other 99% of randos who continuously filter through this place. I do love those magic moments when somehow an interesting thread only has the 1% in it and a really good convo can take place.

    If I'm ever of the rebellious over-the-top character, please smack me before I say/do something really over the wall to get myself kicked out. I'm not sure what I'd do without this place. I know I've touched upon rebellion a coupla times :( and caused havoc to ensue. Sometimes I don't know when to STFU or when what's coming outta my mouth sounds worse than I think it does.

    I love the deep conversations, the advice, the so-funny-I-could-die threads, and everything else in between. They make me think, reconsider, laugh and survive every day.

    there is a system, so you should know if you are at risk of getting banned.

    If you aren't familiar:
    we start with one 0 point warning so people realize we have rules and we enforce them
    then you get 2 point warnings after that
    you will get 3 points if you have several warnings already or have been warned for the same thing multiple times

    points are active for 2 weeks, if you accumulate 5 points in that time you will get banned. Or 10 warnings total will get you banned.

    guidelines are here if anyone hasn't seen them: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/welcome/guidelines
  • brustmannzwei
    brustmannzwei Posts: 1,124 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »

    So per this thread: I wish adults could have serious conversations (wherever they may occur) without flying into a rage, accusing people of being bigots/racists/whatever other dehumanizing thing you can say about a person while also being able to see viewpoints outside of their own to help inform their future opinions and actions. I just recognize that here is not that place as MFP has a ToS and forum rules we agreed upon when we signed up.

    It frustrates me because we do have a really cool bunch of people who have been around here a while and whom you can have very insightful discussions with successfully. Unfortunately thats like 1% of members, and they are heavily outnumbered by the other 99% of randos who continuously filter through this place. I do love those magic moments when somehow an interesting thread only has the 1% in it and a really good convo can take place.

    If I'm ever of the rebellious over-the-top character, please smack me before I say/do something really over the wall to get myself kicked out. I'm not sure what I'd do without this place. I know I've touched upon rebellion a coupla times :( and caused havoc to ensue. Sometimes I don't know when to STFU or when what's coming outta my mouth sounds worse than I think it does.

    I love the deep conversations, the advice, the so-funny-I-could-die threads, and everything else in between. They make me think, reconsider, laugh and survive every day.

    there is a system, so you should know if you are at risk of getting banned.

    If you aren't familiar:
    we start with one 0 point warning so people realize we have rules and we enforce them
    then you get 2 point warnings after that
    you will get 3 points if you have several warnings already or have been warned for the same thing multiple times

    points are active for 2 weeks, if you accumulate 5 points in that time you will get banned. Or 10 warnings total will get you banned.

    guidelines are here if anyone hasn't seen them: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/welcome/guidelines

    Your posting too often warnings are hosed. They say something like “you can’t post for 150 seconds because you posted 0 times blah blah blah.” It says 0 (zero)!instead of the real number.

    I’m currently in jail so I get this error occasionally and it always says 0.
  • B_Plus_Effort
    B_Plus_Effort Posts: 311 Member
    muszyngr wrote: »
    [...] We are sort of this way too, mostly we don't see eye to eye on women's rights [...]

    do you mind providing some examples?

    he is pretty pro-life and I am more pro-choice leaning
    we have different opinions on what should be considered sexual harassment in the work place and how it should be handled

    thanks, I agree with pro-choice, I feel just because someone has a right to do it doesn't mean everyone will run out there and abort a pregnancy, same goes for a seat belt law, I don't think we need them people should wear them absolutely but we don't need to be forced to do it, same for the helmet law

    the problem with workplace issues is that people believe the Human Resources department is on their side, the reality of it, is that HR is a department of the company, same as IT, or Accounting, or Sales

    HR represents the company and their best interests, I have heard first hand accounts of HR staff that said, so many times we believed the person and wanted to help them but our hands were tied, and for example the supervisor who did something wrong was just moved to manage another team to get them away from the individual who reported the incident but nothing came of it more than that, so sad
  • B_Plus_Effort
    B_Plus_Effort Posts: 311 Member
    edited October 2020
    It frustrates me because we do have a really cool bunch of people who have been around here a while and whom you can have very insightful discussions with successfully. Unfortunately thats like 1% of members, and they are heavily outnumbered by the other 99% of randos who continuously filter through this place. I do love those magic moments when somehow an interesting thread only has the 1% in it and a really good convo can take place.

    I like restoring old trucks and giving them a new lease on life, and I have noticed a similar trend on the car forums, of how 10 even 5 years ago it was all about helping the fellow man (woman) and now it's this new attitude of I know what I'm doing I don't need your advice... yet they are making mistakes left and right, ha ha

    and it's always so refreshing to find a comment from one of the OGs and chat them up for a bit, there is no judgement no negativity no keyboard jockeying for position, just adult conversation, is it all serious, he11 no but it's civil and rewarding

    now get off my lawn!
  • Yoshiboobs
    Yoshiboobs Posts: 1,090 Member
    i had to make *two* doctors appointments for myself this morning and i just wish my mom was around to make em bc there’s a big psychological block there, idk why

    so anyways adult conversation is overrated bc i would way rather the telling a kid what my third favorite video game character is than ever talk to a doctor or discuss politics or pay bills or whatever ever again

    I relate to this
  • PaperDoll_
    PaperDoll_ Posts: 32,857 Member
    I was expecting to see a list of gas prices in here. Maybe some commentary about the weather.
  • KosmosKitten
    KosmosKitten Posts: 10,476 Member
    PaperDoll_ wrote: »
    I was expecting to see a list of gas prices in here. Maybe some commentary about the weather.

    Hmm, I suppose that means we need a better definition of what the OP means by "adult" conversation.

    Is it:
    • Deep, meaningful conversations (not small talk)?
    • Talk about adult products and things best not overheard by small children?
    • Small talk about dumb *kitten* adults have to deal with every day? IE. the mundane?
    • Conversations in which dialogue is established but usually devolves into petty insults and dehumanizing behavior because despite being adults, people can't act their age or haven't been taught how to respectfully and politely disagree and engage in an actual debate?

    Across the board, I'd like 1 and 4 more often, but again, that never manifests for the reasons I mention in number 4. And I mean across the board, not just here on MFP. It would be nice to have a calm, serious/in-depth conversation with a person without always feeling like I have to be on the defensive or that I'm going to be dehumanized and vilified simply for having a different opinion.
  • Deadman_Diggingup
    Deadman_Diggingup Posts: 3,082 Member
    PaperDoll_ wrote: »
    I was expecting to see a list of gas prices in here. Maybe some commentary about the weather.

    I filled up at a station at $1.09, not noticing until later that across the street it was at $0.99.
    That’s how they get you!
    *Shaking angry fist in the air at THEY*

    Also, this cooler weather is a doosey on my arthritis.
  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,724 Member
    PaperDoll_ wrote: »
    I was expecting to see a list of gas prices in here. Maybe some commentary about the weather.

    I filled up at a station at $1.09, not noticing until later that across the street it was at $0.99.
    That’s how they get you!
    *Shaking angry fist in the air at THEY*

    Also, this cooler weather is a doosey on my arthritis.

    Are you joking? Gas is $1.09? We're paying anywhere from 2.04-2.19. But that's okay; I don't go far. :/
  • KosmosKitten
    KosmosKitten Posts: 10,476 Member
    ReenieHJ wrote: »
    PaperDoll_ wrote: »
    I was expecting to see a list of gas prices in here. Maybe some commentary about the weather.

    I filled up at a station at $1.09, not noticing until later that across the street it was at $0.99.
    That’s how they get you!
    *Shaking angry fist in the air at THEY*

    Also, this cooler weather is a doosey on my arthritis.

    Are you joking? Gas is $1.09? We're paying anywhere from 2.04-2.19. But that's okay; I don't go far. :/

    It's around $2.70 here.
  • Motorsheen
    Motorsheen Posts: 20,508 Member
    JustSomeEm wrote: »
    Hey folks,

    [ this is a fitness site, right?

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  • 4legsRbetterthan2
    4legsRbetterthan2 Posts: 19,590 MFP Moderator
    Motorsheen wrote: »
    JustSomeEm wrote: »
    Hey folks,

    [ this is a fitness site, right?

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    There is a whole wide world outside of chit chat you know ;)
  • Motorsheen
    Motorsheen Posts: 20,508 Member
    Motorsheen wrote: »
    JustSomeEm wrote: »
    Hey folks,

    [ this is a fitness site, right?

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    There is a whole wide world outside of chit chat you know ;)

    actually, no; I don't know.
  • J_NY_Z
    J_NY_Z Posts: 2,540 Member
    I have plenty of adult conversations. The problem is that they are very narrow: "Who will you vote for? Why did you break up? Hows work.....blah blah blah..."
  • Motorsheen
    Motorsheen Posts: 20,508 Member
    Motorsheen wrote: »
    Motorsheen wrote: »
    JustSomeEm wrote: »
    Hey folks,

    [ this is a fitness site, right?

    200.gif

    There is a whole wide world outside of chit chat you know ;)

    actually, no; I don't know.

    I see you troll debate now and then....

    sometimes I get lost.


    MFP needs to upgrade their directional wayfinding process / that's all.
  • ReenieHJ
    ReenieHJ Posts: 9,724 Member
    All roads lead(and fingers point) to Chitchat.
  • i expected stock tips.