Do you need to do cardio to shred body fat?? Help!

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  • Clau_Ioana1202
    Clau_Ioana1202 Posts: 40 Member
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    msalicia07 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    leah9985 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Cardio burns CALORIES. You will always burn glycogen FIRST and FOREMOST with physical movement. What if I told you that you burn the most "stored bodyfat" if you're in a calorie deficit and get enough sleep? That's the truth. Cardio burns more calories than resistance training for the same amount of intensity and duration, but if you consume more than your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) you'll gain weight regardless of how much cardio you do. And personally for myself, I walk briskly for the majority of my cardio. I do run intervals but only for a short time.

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    This is very helpful, thank you. I had no idea that you can actually burn more calories from being in a deficit and getting enough sleep! Wow!

    So as long as I’m active, which I am. Doing my normal workouts which include a little bit of cardio and eating at a deficit then I should be fine 🤞🏼

    The thought of having to do 45 mins cardio every day really wasn’t sitting well with me! I’m so glad I asked for advice!

    Thank you everyone!

    🤔 Not sure if you’re grasping the responses. You could literally do zero exercise and be fine, as in lose weight. Exercise is great for health not weight loss.
    While true, the less you activate your muscles, the HIGHER CHANCE you have of losing lean muscle along with fat. And you DON'T want to lose muscle because it compounds the reduction in BMR. When you lose weight, the scale can't really determine if you're losing muscle or fat or water. So IT SHOULD be emphasized that one should have a form of regular exercise to help metabolic rate stay higher versus having it drop much lower.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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    We should be active, just elaborating it’s not necessary for weight loss because it isn’t. It’s certainly important for other reasons (health), and can aid weight loss which is a bonus, but it’s not needed for weight loss. Knowing the difference can empower someone not to feel defeated if they missed a workout then throw the whole day away or completely give up on their weight loss efforts. Like, you missed a workout, no big deal- you are still in a deficit, you still got this! This is achievable without killing your self at the gym. This seems like common knowledge but trust me, it isn’t.
    Whiles it's not, again it's not optimal. People that lose weight through diet only end up being really soft, saggy and flabby as well as the propensity to regain much easier. And to say that exercise is NOT great for weight loss is a biased opinion. Exercise keeps a better metabolic rate. Also helps with sleeping and if you didn't know it, you burn more stored body fat at rest than through movement. People that don't sleep well usually don't because of stress and anxiety, SOMETHING that exercise has been shown to reduce. So please don't say that exercise does nothing for weight loss.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    Wait, what? When did I say it does nothing for weight loss? Did you even read what I wrote? This is such a bazaar response I’m gonna be honest. Gaslighting won’t work with me, I know what I said. So, please stop attempting to misquote me to prove a completely different point.

    Exercises are well needed to keep the metabolic rate high, therefore help the weight loss.

    You did mention that exercising does nothing for weight loss: "We should be active, just elaborating it’s not necessary for weight loss because it isn’t. It’s certainly important for other reasons (health), and can aid weight loss which is a bonus, but it’s not needed for weight loss"

    I do believe the caloric deficit is the key, but without exercise, with a slower metabolism and some muscle lost, the body will burn less and less calories and eventually we'll need to adjust the calories or not be able to lose weight.

    I think we all agree that caloric deficit and exercise work together. No exercise and deficit may do the job but maybe slower.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,503 Member
    edited January 2021
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    msalicia07 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    leah9985 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Cardio burns CALORIES. You will always burn glycogen FIRST and FOREMOST with physical movement. What if I told you that you burn the most "stored bodyfat" if you're in a calorie deficit and get enough sleep? That's the truth. Cardio burns more calories than resistance training for the same amount of intensity and duration, but if you consume more than your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) you'll gain weight regardless of how much cardio you do. And personally for myself, I walk briskly for the majority of my cardio. I do run intervals but only for a short time.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    This is very helpful, thank you. I had no idea that you can actually burn more calories from being in a deficit and getting enough sleep! Wow!

    So as long as I’m active, which I am. Doing my normal workouts which include a little bit of cardio and eating at a deficit then I should be fine 🤞🏼

    The thought of having to do 45 mins cardio every day really wasn’t sitting well with me! I’m so glad I asked for advice!

    Thank you everyone!

    🤔 Not sure if you’re grasping the responses. You could literally do zero exercise and be fine, as in lose weight. Exercise is great for health not weight loss.
    While true, the less you activate your muscles, the HIGHER CHANCE you have of losing lean muscle along with fat. And you DON'T want to lose muscle because it compounds the reduction in BMR. When you lose weight, the scale can't really determine if you're losing muscle or fat or water. So IT SHOULD be emphasized that one should have a form of regular exercise to help metabolic rate stay higher versus having it drop much lower.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    We should be active, just elaborating it’s not necessary for weight loss because it isn’t. It’s certainly important for other reasons (health), and can aid weight loss which is a bonus, but it’s not needed for weight loss. Knowing the difference can empower someone not to feel defeated if they missed a workout then throw the whole day away or completely give up on their weight loss efforts. Like, you missed a workout, no big deal- you are still in a deficit, you still got this! This is achievable without killing your self at the gym. This seems like common knowledge but trust me, it isn’t.
    Whiles it's not, again it's not optimal. People that lose weight through diet only end up being really soft, saggy and flabby as well as the propensity to regain much easier. And to say that exercise is NOT great for weight loss is a biased opinion. Exercise keeps a better metabolic rate. Also helps with sleeping and if you didn't know it, you burn more stored body fat at rest than through movement. People that don't sleep well usually don't because of stress and anxiety, SOMETHING that exercise has been shown to reduce. So please don't say that exercise does nothing for weight loss.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    Wait, what? When did I say it does nothing for weight loss? Did you even read what I wrote? This is such a bazaar response I’m gonna be honest. Gaslighting won’t work with me, I know what I said. So, please stop attempting to misquote me to prove a completely different point.
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    Exercise is great for health not weight loss.
    Maybe you should try rewording what you said then.

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  • leah9985
    leah9985 Posts: 66 Member
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    heybales wrote: »
    leah9985 wrote: »
    Good morning,

    Another post from me!

    I am following a diet and I am in a deficit. I have lost inches every week. A total of 5 inches off my waist in three weeks, however the scales haven’t budged. My weight has stayed the same. With some excellent advice on another post of mine, I have been told this could be water retention which can happen when starting a new exercise regime in the first weeks.

    However, this morning I have been told that I need to do a 45 minute cardio session each day to shred the fat. Is this correct? Will I not lose body fat if I don’t do cardio?

    I currently cooperate a bit of cardio in my weight workout regime, jump squats, jumping jacks etc. But I don’t do a full on cardio sessions as such.

    Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you!

    My take away from this topic and the other - you need to stop talking to certain people about trying to lose weight - they are doing you no good with their misinfo.

    And water weight gain for repair maxes out - you don't keep gaining it. Meaning it would not keep hiding fat loss on the scale.

    You will gain water weight for other reasons of course, exercise has side effect of weight gain, not loss by itself.
    Blood volume usually increases.
    Stored glycogen in now used muscles increases, that stores with water.
    The more intense the workout the more you ask your body to store of that.

    So those could be increasing even as water weight from inflammation stops.
    Which begs the question - you taking some rest days from intense workouts to recover, or are they short right now?
    Exercise done well tears the body down in some manner.
    Rest and recovery allows it to be built back up stronger if diet allows it.

    Thank you for your input. I am really struggling mentally with the number on the scales. I am 100% in a deficit, I weigh EVERYTHING.

    It’s been 2 1/2 weeks being on this strict diet and the scales haven’t budged at all. I dropped 1lb yesterday but today it’s gone back on 😩 I am devastated.

    Will the scales ever drop? Or am I doing something wrong?

    Working out 5 times a week. Am I not taking enough rest days? Should I just work out every other? My workouts are mostly weights, I do add some cardio in there, jumping jacks, jump squats etc.

    What am I doing wrong? Please help! I feel so deflated today. I’m trying so hard!
  • Ddsb11
    Ddsb11 Posts: 607 Member
    edited January 2021
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    Claucescu wrote: »
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    leah9985 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Cardio burns CALORIES. You will always burn glycogen FIRST and FOREMOST with physical movement. What if I told you that you burn the most "stored bodyfat" if you're in a calorie deficit and get enough sleep? That's the truth. Cardio burns more calories than resistance training for the same amount of intensity and duration, but if you consume more than your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) you'll gain weight regardless of how much cardio you do. And personally for myself, I walk briskly for the majority of my cardio. I do run intervals but only for a short time.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    This is very helpful, thank you. I had no idea that you can actually burn more calories from being in a deficit and getting enough sleep! Wow!

    So as long as I’m active, which I am. Doing my normal workouts which include a little bit of cardio and eating at a deficit then I should be fine 🤞🏼

    The thought of having to do 45 mins cardio every day really wasn’t sitting well with me! I’m so glad I asked for advice!

    Thank you everyone!

    🤔 Not sure if you’re grasping the responses. You could literally do zero exercise and be fine, as in lose weight. Exercise is great for health not weight loss.
    While true, the less you activate your muscles, the HIGHER CHANCE you have of losing lean muscle along with fat. And you DON'T want to lose muscle because it compounds the reduction in BMR. When you lose weight, the scale can't really determine if you're losing muscle or fat or water. So IT SHOULD be emphasized that one should have a form of regular exercise to help metabolic rate stay higher versus having it drop much lower.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    We should be active, just elaborating it’s not necessary for weight loss because it isn’t. It’s certainly important for other reasons (health), and can aid weight loss which is a bonus, but it’s not needed for weight loss. Knowing the difference can empower someone not to feel defeated if they missed a workout then throw the whole day away or completely give up on their weight loss efforts. Like, you missed a workout, no big deal- you are still in a deficit, you still got this! This is achievable without killing your self at the gym. This seems like common knowledge but trust me, it isn’t.
    Whiles it's not, again it's not optimal. People that lose weight through diet only end up being really soft, saggy and flabby as well as the propensity to regain much easier. And to say that exercise is NOT great for weight loss is a biased opinion. Exercise keeps a better metabolic rate. Also helps with sleeping and if you didn't know it, you burn more stored body fat at rest than through movement. People that don't sleep well usually don't because of stress and anxiety, SOMETHING that exercise has been shown to reduce. So please don't say that exercise does nothing for weight loss.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    Wait, what? When did I say it does nothing for weight loss? Did you even read what I wrote? This is such a bazaar response I’m gonna be honest. Gaslighting won’t work with me, I know what I said. So, please stop attempting to misquote me to prove a completely different point.

    Exercises are well needed to keep the metabolic rate high, therefore help the weight loss.

    You did mention that exercising does nothing for weight loss: "We should be active, just elaborating it’s not necessary for weight loss because it isn’t. It’s certainly important for other reasons (health), and can aid weight loss which is a bonus, but it’s not needed for weight loss"

    I do believe the caloric deficit is the key, but without exercise, with a slower metabolism and some muscle lost, the body will burn less and less calories and eventually we'll need to adjust the calories or not be able to lose weight.

    I think we all agree that caloric deficit and exercise work together. No exercise and deficit may do the job but maybe slower.

    No, in fact I did NOT say it does nothing for weight loss. I said it wasn’t necessary for weight loss (fact), but it can aid weight loss and is important for health. I bolded it for you.
  • Ddsb11
    Ddsb11 Posts: 607 Member
    edited January 2021
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    ninerbuff wrote: »
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    leah9985 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Cardio burns CALORIES. You will always burn glycogen FIRST and FOREMOST with physical movement. What if I told you that you burn the most "stored bodyfat" if you're in a calorie deficit and get enough sleep? That's the truth. Cardio burns more calories than resistance training for the same amount of intensity and duration, but if you consume more than your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) you'll gain weight regardless of how much cardio you do. And personally for myself, I walk briskly for the majority of my cardio. I do run intervals but only for a short time.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    This is very helpful, thank you. I had no idea that you can actually burn more calories from being in a deficit and getting enough sleep! Wow!

    So as long as I’m active, which I am. Doing my normal workouts which include a little bit of cardio and eating at a deficit then I should be fine 🤞🏼

    The thought of having to do 45 mins cardio every day really wasn’t sitting well with me! I’m so glad I asked for advice!

    Thank you everyone!

    🤔 Not sure if you’re grasping the responses. You could literally do zero exercise and be fine, as in lose weight. Exercise is great for health not weight loss.
    While true, the less you activate your muscles, the HIGHER CHANCE you have of losing lean muscle along with fat. And you DON'T want to lose muscle because it compounds the reduction in BMR. When you lose weight, the scale can't really determine if you're losing muscle or fat or water. So IT SHOULD be emphasized that one should have a form of regular exercise to help metabolic rate stay higher versus having it drop much lower.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    We should be active, just elaborating it’s not necessary for weight loss because it isn’t. It’s certainly important for other reasons (health), and can aid weight loss which is a bonus, but it’s not needed for weight loss. Knowing the difference can empower someone not to feel defeated if they missed a workout then throw the whole day away or completely give up on their weight loss efforts. Like, you missed a workout, no big deal- you are still in a deficit, you still got this! This is achievable without killing your self at the gym. This seems like common knowledge but trust me, it isn’t.
    Whiles it's not, again it's not optimal. People that lose weight through diet only end up being really soft, saggy and flabby as well as the propensity to regain much easier. And to say that exercise is NOT great for weight loss is a biased opinion. Exercise keeps a better metabolic rate. Also helps with sleeping and if you didn't know it, you burn more stored body fat at rest than through movement. People that don't sleep well usually don't because of stress and anxiety, SOMETHING that exercise has been shown to reduce. So please don't say that exercise does nothing for weight loss.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    Wait, what? When did I say it does nothing for weight loss? Did you even read what I wrote? This is such a bazaar response I’m gonna be honest. Gaslighting won’t work with me, I know what I said. So, please stop attempting to misquote me to prove a completely different point.
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    Exercise is great for health not weight loss.
    Maybe you should try rewording what you said then.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    We should be active, just elaborating it’s not necessary for weight loss because it isn’t. It’s certainly important for other reasons (health), and can aid weight loss which is a bonus, but it’s not needed for weight loss.

    Just going to leave this here for you. I’m sorry you want to be so defiant about it. Maybe you should change your wording?
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,503 Member
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    leah9985 wrote: »
    heybales wrote: »
    leah9985 wrote: »
    Good morning,

    Another post from me!

    I am following a diet and I am in a deficit. I have lost inches every week. A total of 5 inches off my waist in three weeks, however the scales haven’t budged. My weight has stayed the same. With some excellent advice on another post of mine, I have been told this could be water retention which can happen when starting a new exercise regime in the first weeks.

    However, this morning I have been told that I need to do a 45 minute cardio session each day to shred the fat. Is this correct? Will I not lose body fat if I don’t do cardio?

    I currently cooperate a bit of cardio in my weight workout regime, jump squats, jumping jacks etc. But I don’t do a full on cardio sessions as such.

    Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you!

    My take away from this topic and the other - you need to stop talking to certain people about trying to lose weight - they are doing you no good with their misinfo.

    And water weight gain for repair maxes out - you don't keep gaining it. Meaning it would not keep hiding fat loss on the scale.

    You will gain water weight for other reasons of course, exercise has side effect of weight gain, not loss by itself.
    Blood volume usually increases.
    Stored glycogen in now used muscles increases, that stores with water.
    The more intense the workout the more you ask your body to store of that.

    So those could be increasing even as water weight from inflammation stops.
    Which begs the question - you taking some rest days from intense workouts to recover, or are they short right now?
    Exercise done well tears the body down in some manner.
    Rest and recovery allows it to be built back up stronger if diet allows it.

    Thank you for your input. I am really struggling mentally with the number on the scales. I am 100% in a deficit, I weigh EVERYTHING.

    It’s been 2 1/2 weeks being on this strict diet and the scales haven’t budged at all. I dropped 1lb yesterday but today it’s gone back on 😩 I am devastated.

    Will the scales ever drop? Or am I doing something wrong?

    Working out 5 times a week. Am I not taking enough rest days? Should I just work out every other? My workouts are mostly weights, I do add some cardio in there, jumping jacks, jump squats etc.

    What am I doing wrong? Please help! I feel so deflated today. I’m trying so hard!
    They will drop if you're consistent. Patience. If it doesn't change in a month, then reassess.


    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
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  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    edited January 2021
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    leah9985 wrote: »
    heybales wrote: »
    leah9985 wrote: »
    Good morning,

    Another post from me!

    I am following a diet and I am in a deficit. I have lost inches every week. A total of 5 inches off my waist in three weeks, however the scales haven’t budged. My weight has stayed the same. With some excellent advice on another post of mine, I have been told this could be water retention which can happen when starting a new exercise regime in the first weeks.

    However, this morning I have been told that I need to do a 45 minute cardio session each day to shred the fat. Is this correct? Will I not lose body fat if I don’t do cardio?

    I currently cooperate a bit of cardio in my weight workout regime, jump squats, jumping jacks etc. But I don’t do a full on cardio sessions as such.

    Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you!

    My take away from this topic and the other - you need to stop talking to certain people about trying to lose weight - they are doing you no good with their misinfo.

    And water weight gain for repair maxes out - you don't keep gaining it. Meaning it would not keep hiding fat loss on the scale.

    You will gain water weight for other reasons of course, exercise has side effect of weight gain, not loss by itself.
    Blood volume usually increases.
    Stored glycogen in now used muscles increases, that stores with water.
    The more intense the workout the more you ask your body to store of that.

    So those could be increasing even as water weight from inflammation stops.
    Which begs the question - you taking some rest days from intense workouts to recover, or are they short right now?
    Exercise done well tears the body down in some manner.
    Rest and recovery allows it to be built back up stronger if diet allows it.

    Thank you for your input. I am really struggling mentally with the number on the scales. I am 100% in a deficit, I weigh EVERYTHING.

    It’s been 2 1/2 weeks being on this strict diet and the scales haven’t budged at all. I dropped 1lb yesterday but today it’s gone back on 😩 I am devastated.

    Will the scales ever drop? Or am I doing something wrong?

    Working out 5 times a week. Am I not taking enough rest days? Should I just work out every other? My workouts are mostly weights, I do add some cardio in there, jumping jacks, jump squats etc.

    What am I doing wrong? Please help! I feel so deflated today. I’m trying so hard!

    Will the scales drop - not while you are stressed probably.

    If an obvious 1 lb water weight fluctuation (because it can't be anything else) caused you to feel devastated or even think in that direction that it meant anything - then you are way too stressed about this.

    Increased cortisol from stress has shown to cause upwards of 20 lb slow water weight gain.
    Stress from life, workouts, diet, food sensitivities/allergies, disease, injury recovery, ect.

    If you had a literal 1 lb weekly, 500 cal deficit for fat loss, masked by that increase - you would see NO scale change for 20 wks - 5 MONTHS.

    How stressed would you be over that?
    ETA - this is why measurements are good beyond scale weight. Of course having the body under that much stress to cause the effect isn't good anyway.

    Control the stress you can, minimize what you can't totally control.

    You've been given and applied the reasonable diet level to minimize that stress - great.
    Your workouts don't sound terribly stressful, especially with a reasonable deficit (more diet means harder to repair & recover) - but really that's a personal thing - they could be super hard and stressful to you right now.

    Like is the weights the same thing daily, and heavy enough weights it's hard?
    Some stress is good, like lifting a weight that is easy daily isn't really going to ask the body to change much. But make it hard the body needs to improve, given rest/recovery time between workouts.

    Is sleep good, work stress, shoot life stress right now!?
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,503 Member
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    msalicia07 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    leah9985 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Cardio burns CALORIES. You will always burn glycogen FIRST and FOREMOST with physical movement. What if I told you that you burn the most "stored bodyfat" if you're in a calorie deficit and get enough sleep? That's the truth. Cardio burns more calories than resistance training for the same amount of intensity and duration, but if you consume more than your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) you'll gain weight regardless of how much cardio you do. And personally for myself, I walk briskly for the majority of my cardio. I do run intervals but only for a short time.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    This is very helpful, thank you. I had no idea that you can actually burn more calories from being in a deficit and getting enough sleep! Wow!

    So as long as I’m active, which I am. Doing my normal workouts which include a little bit of cardio and eating at a deficit then I should be fine 🤞🏼

    The thought of having to do 45 mins cardio every day really wasn’t sitting well with me! I’m so glad I asked for advice!

    Thank you everyone!

    🤔 Not sure if you’re grasping the responses. You could literally do zero exercise and be fine, as in lose weight. Exercise is great for health not weight loss.
    While true, the less you activate your muscles, the HIGHER CHANCE you have of losing lean muscle along with fat. And you DON'T want to lose muscle because it compounds the reduction in BMR. When you lose weight, the scale can't really determine if you're losing muscle or fat or water. So IT SHOULD be emphasized that one should have a form of regular exercise to help metabolic rate stay higher versus having it drop much lower.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    We should be active, just elaborating it’s not necessary for weight loss because it isn’t. It’s certainly important for other reasons (health), and can aid weight loss which is a bonus, but it’s not needed for weight loss. Knowing the difference can empower someone not to feel defeated if they missed a workout then throw the whole day away or completely give up on their weight loss efforts. Like, you missed a workout, no big deal- you are still in a deficit, you still got this! This is achievable without killing your self at the gym. This seems like common knowledge but trust me, it isn’t.
    Whiles it's not, again it's not optimal. People that lose weight through diet only end up being really soft, saggy and flabby as well as the propensity to regain much easier. And to say that exercise is NOT great for weight loss is a biased opinion. Exercise keeps a better metabolic rate. Also helps with sleeping and if you didn't know it, you burn more stored body fat at rest than through movement. People that don't sleep well usually don't because of stress and anxiety, SOMETHING that exercise has been shown to reduce. So please don't say that exercise does nothing for weight loss.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    9285851.png

    Wait, what? When did I say it does nothing for weight loss? Did you even read what I wrote? This is such a bazaar response I’m gonna be honest. Gaslighting won’t work with me, I know what I said. So, please stop attempting to misquote me to prove a completely different point.
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    Exercise is great for health not weight loss.
    Maybe you should try rewording what you said then.

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    We should be active, just elaborating it’s not necessary for weight loss because it isn’t. It’s certainly important for other reasons (health), and can aid weight loss which is a bonus, but it’s not needed for weight loss.

    Just going to leave this here for you. I’m sorry you want to be so defiant about it. Maybe you should change your wording?
    I bolded your first initial post before you responded. Scroll up. You "corrected" yourself. It's important to know that not everyone reading posts on here engages in conversation. So to see "Exercise is great for health, not weightloss", could lead them to NOT bothering to exercise at all. It's NOT about being defiant. It's about ensuring that information isn't misconstrued. If you take offense to that, then sorry.

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    Ddsb11 Posts: 607 Member
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    ninerbuff wrote: »
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
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    ninerbuff wrote: »
    msalicia07 wrote: »
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    leah9985 wrote: »
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    Cardio burns CALORIES. You will always burn glycogen FIRST and FOREMOST with physical movement. What if I told you that you burn the most "stored bodyfat" if you're in a calorie deficit and get enough sleep? That's the truth. Cardio burns more calories than resistance training for the same amount of intensity and duration, but if you consume more than your TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) you'll gain weight regardless of how much cardio you do. And personally for myself, I walk briskly for the majority of my cardio. I do run intervals but only for a short time.

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    This is very helpful, thank you. I had no idea that you can actually burn more calories from being in a deficit and getting enough sleep! Wow!

    So as long as I’m active, which I am. Doing my normal workouts which include a little bit of cardio and eating at a deficit then I should be fine 🤞🏼

    The thought of having to do 45 mins cardio every day really wasn’t sitting well with me! I’m so glad I asked for advice!

    Thank you everyone!

    🤔 Not sure if you’re grasping the responses. You could literally do zero exercise and be fine, as in lose weight. Exercise is great for health not weight loss.
    While true, the less you activate your muscles, the HIGHER CHANCE you have of losing lean muscle along with fat. And you DON'T want to lose muscle because it compounds the reduction in BMR. When you lose weight, the scale can't really determine if you're losing muscle or fat or water. So IT SHOULD be emphasized that one should have a form of regular exercise to help metabolic rate stay higher versus having it drop much lower.

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    We should be active, just elaborating it’s not necessary for weight loss because it isn’t. It’s certainly important for other reasons (health), and can aid weight loss which is a bonus, but it’s not needed for weight loss. Knowing the difference can empower someone not to feel defeated if they missed a workout then throw the whole day away or completely give up on their weight loss efforts. Like, you missed a workout, no big deal- you are still in a deficit, you still got this! This is achievable without killing your self at the gym. This seems like common knowledge but trust me, it isn’t.
    Whiles it's not, again it's not optimal. People that lose weight through diet only end up being really soft, saggy and flabby as well as the propensity to regain much easier. And to say that exercise is NOT great for weight loss is a biased opinion. Exercise keeps a better metabolic rate. Also helps with sleeping and if you didn't know it, you burn more stored body fat at rest than through movement. People that don't sleep well usually don't because of stress and anxiety, SOMETHING that exercise has been shown to reduce. So please don't say that exercise does nothing for weight loss.

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    Wait, what? When did I say it does nothing for weight loss? Did you even read what I wrote? This is such a bazaar response I’m gonna be honest. Gaslighting won’t work with me, I know what I said. So, please stop attempting to misquote me to prove a completely different point.
    msalicia07 wrote: »
    Exercise is great for health not weight loss.
    Maybe you should try rewording what you said then.

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    We should be active, just elaborating it’s not necessary for weight loss because it isn’t. It’s certainly important for other reasons (health), and can aid weight loss which is a bonus, but it’s not needed for weight loss.

    Just going to leave this here for you. I’m sorry you want to be so defiant about it. Maybe you should change your wording?
    I bolded your first initial post before you responded. Scroll up. You "corrected" yourself. It's important to know that not everyone reading posts on here engages in conversation. So to see "Exercise is great for health, not weightloss", could lead them to NOT bothering to exercise at all. It's NOT about being defiant. It's about ensuring that information isn't misconstrued. If you take offense to that, then sorry.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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    Where did I correct myself? I didn’t change my quote anywhere. I was clear in my communication and you misquoted me several times (not cool).

    We both agree working out AIDS in weight loss and is great for health purposes. But if you are saying working out is necessary to lose weight, then I point blank disagree. I don’t need you to continue to mansplain why working out is beneficial because I have already stated that, many times.

    Let’s let this lovely person have her thread back. If you want to private message me you are welcome to.