Losing Muscle Mass , Gaining BFP.

cwolfman13

UmaMageswarymfp wrote: »

cwolfman13 wrote: »

UmaMageswarymfp wrote: »

So am I crazy for seeing actual differences in body in terms on how I feel big look big , mom constantly asking me to stop whatever I’m doing because I look bigger than ever? Am I going crazy? This is really pissing me off when people refuse to believe what I say. 😢

Not going crazy. As to not believing what you say...that is also not the case...it's the diagnosis that is the problem. It would be biologically impossible to put on roughly 4 Lbs of muscle mass in 2 weeks...it's just not something that is humanly possible from a biological standpoint. Like fat, muscle requires energy to build...a surplus of calories...building muscle, like building fat requires you to be in an anabolic state...if you are dieting you are in a catabolic state.

Even with a "dirty bulk" of 1000 calories per day over maintenance and a spot on hypertrophy program, nobody is building 4 Lbs of muscle in two weeks. A young, untrained male running a good hypertrophy program will put on maybe 20 Lbs of muscle over a whole year and along with that will come a decent amount of fat.

What you are seeing visibly is most likely what is referred to as "pump"...this is your muscles filling with fluid to aid in repair. It is essentially inflammation of the muscles. The fibers themselves haven't grown...the muscle is just filled with fluid.

So if the muscles are retaining water then how can I avoid pump / water retention because it’s truly messing with my training sessions. Since I constantly feel like I’m gaining muscles very quickly

You can't..."pump" is your body doing biologically what it's supposed to do. Resistance training breaks down muscle...it causes small tears in the tissue (basically a minor injury) and has to be repaired. It's just like any other injury where there is swelling and inflammation...inflammation is your body repairing itself.

sijomial

UmaMageswarymfp wrote: »

cwolfman13 wrote: »

UmaMageswarymfp wrote: »

So am I crazy for seeing actual differences in body in terms on how I feel big look big , mom constantly asking me to stop whatever I’m doing because I look bigger than ever? Am I going crazy? This is really pissing me off when people refuse to believe what I say. 😢

Not going crazy. As to not believing what you say...that is also not the case...it's the diagnosis that is the problem. It would be biologically impossible to put on roughly 4 Lbs of muscle mass in 2 weeks...it's just not something that is humanly possible from a biological standpoint. Like fat, muscle requires energy to build...a surplus of calories...building muscle, like building fat requires you to be in an anabolic state...if you are dieting you are in a catabolic state.

Even with a "dirty bulk" of 1000 calories per day over maintenance and a spot on hypertrophy program, nobody is building 4 Lbs of muscle in two weeks. A young, untrained male running a good hypertrophy program will put on maybe 20 Lbs of muscle over a whole year and along with that will come a decent amount of fat.

What you are seeing visibly is most likely what is referred to as "pump"...this is your muscles filling with fluid to aid in repair. It is essentially inflammation of the muscles. The fibers themselves haven't grown...the muscle is just filled with fluid.

So if the muscles are retaining water then how can I avoid pump / water retention because it’s truly messing with my training sessions. Since I constantly feel like I’m gaining muscles very quickly

It's your reaction to what is a perfectly normal aspect of training that is the problem, not the water retention itself.
It's your feelings you need to address rather than what is a normal biological response to exercise.

kshama2001

UmaMageswarymfp wrote: »

cwolfman13 wrote: »

UmaMageswarymfp wrote: »

So am I crazy for seeing actual differences in body in terms on how I feel big look big , mom constantly asking me to stop whatever I’m doing because I look bigger than ever? Am I going crazy? This is really pissing me off when people refuse to believe what I say. 😢

Not going crazy. As to not believing what you say...that is also not the case...it's the diagnosis that is the problem. It would be biologically impossible to put on roughly 4 Lbs of muscle mass in 2 weeks...it's just not something that is humanly possible from a biological standpoint. Like fat, muscle requires energy to build...a surplus of calories...building muscle, like building fat requires you to be in an anabolic state...if you are dieting you are in a catabolic state.

Even with a "dirty bulk" of 1000 calories per day over maintenance and a spot on hypertrophy program, nobody is building 4 Lbs of muscle in two weeks. A young, untrained male running a good hypertrophy program will put on maybe 20 Lbs of muscle over a whole year and along with that will come a decent amount of fat.

What you are seeing visibly is most likely what is referred to as "pump"...this is your muscles filling with fluid to aid in repair. It is essentially inflammation of the muscles. The fibers themselves haven't grown...the muscle is just filled with fluid.

So if the muscles are retaining water then how can I avoid pump / water retention because it’s truly messing with my training sessions. Since I constantly feel like I’m gaining muscles very quickly

Trust us, you are not "gaining muscles very quickly"

Anyone have some good videos/pictures of the same person with and without a pump going on to show Uma?

I'm tempted to watch a whole bunch of Buff Dudes videos to try to find some examples but I don't want to go down that rabbit hole, lol.

PAV8888

Hi Hi <waves to Uma>

Uma there are a "couple" of issues going on here!

1. So far I am not impressed with your gym: This is not a program! Come on! Triceps are a tiny tiny muscle and you're pushing 35kg which is impressive... and you're using your legs and things that are used to carrying a 90kg Uma to push on 45kg?!?!?!?!?! There is no rhyme or reason and you really should get someone to design a program that makes sense as opposed to one that is just designed to make you feel sore (because if you're feeling sore you got the best results, right? Well... not really!!!). Plus the machine you're using to test your body fat levels is OK (in terms of what is generally available) but still has a high level of error and lack of consistency of measurement. In fact their original tanita validation results indicated that you get inaccurate measurements from bio-impedence if you've exercised in recent memory (was it 24 or was it 48 hours)... and yet you're using the machine at the gym!

2. You really should try to limit the input you get from friends and relatives who know what you've been doing and impose their own biases on what they see or do not see, and who are perhaps feeding off your own words and/or concerns that you articulate to them. Did people come to you and say: "omg I notice that your shoulders are huge", or did you have a discussion talking about gym and exercise and everything you had done and your concern (or their concern) about big shoulders and then someone mentioned your shoulders are huge? Would anyone have noticed any such thing if the issue was not specifically discussed, mentioned, or an active concern? Think about double blind (or at the very least single blind) experiments, vs experiments biased by everyone knowing about what's taking place and what is being measured.

3. You are getting impatient, doing a few too many things at once and going hard... and looking for quick results. I thought you had seen time and time again that this seldom works out well in the end! Relax. Do things for their own benefit and reasons, and take them on their own values. You don't need to try everything and anything and throw the kitchen sink to the altar of weight loss.

It's in the kitchen where you lose the weight and you will lose and control your weight more easily when you rely less on street vendors and the cooking of relatives! It is incredible (to me) how many "wasted" calories people add to the altar of marginally better tasting food <that's my opinion, of course, because I would rather use the calories I save by making food that "wastes" few calories in order to spend them all on cheesecake and similar indulgences! Hey you can have anything and everything, just not all the time and not in unlimited quantities😅>

Anyway. I digress. Remember weight trend apps? Remember that you're looking at results over months at a time? Starting an exercise program and having water retention while your muscles are sore... is normal. and good. For you and your muscles And has nothing to do with fat!

So yes. Exercise. Using a proven program. That is balanced. And makes more sense than what you've described!

And take care of yourself. By looking for things that you can do forever.

Not just "till you lose weight".