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  • astartig
    astartig Posts: 549 Member
    Has anyone had success switching their body into a ketosis mode?? If so what does your meal plan look like???

    It's something you really have to dive into. Atkins site is a good start. I am doing the low carb lifestyle right now. I have done it quite successfully in the past (like 10 years ago). I lost all the weight I wanted. This time though I'm having a sluggish start because of hidden carbs in food. Really learn what is in the food you are eating. I found out I was having a water drink (Glaceau Zero Water) and it turns out it has 4 net carbs per serving. I was having 2 of those a day. Believe it or not eggs have carbs too and must be counted. Also Splenda was a big carb adder. 1 carb per teaspoon and I was having 3 teaspoons per cup of coffee, plus tea later in the day with 3-6 more. I wasn't counting those carbs. I'm on Induction or Ultra Low Carb eating (ULC). I'm doing the Carb Nite Solution. Just started. I'm pretty excited. You have to be ULC (30g or less per day) the first 10 days, then you refeed. Basically, have a free day to eat what you like. This triggers fat loss for the next few days after refeeding. Now that I've got a handle on my carb intake and watching what I put in my mouth, I think I can get back to losing again. I was wondering what was wrong and I must have been having probably 20g carbs over what I was supposed to--like 40g. I'm eating 20g a day. I have my first refeeding on this Wednesday.

    Good luck, but count all those carbs!! It's so vital to losing weight on this diet. If you would like to see my diary, please friend me, and you can see what I've been eating. For me, I have bacon and eggs (with coconut oil), Bulletproof Coffee for breakfast. I prefer to get a nice salad with avocado and cheese. I make my on vinergarette. I use Just Like Sugar and Stevia now INSTEAD of splenda. I had great success in the past. I was very strict about the carbs and before I even learned about the Carb Nite Solution, I was having a once a week feeding which included and nice bowl of pasta, icecream, etc. Then right back on track. I lost really fast doing this. You should probably do about 60-120 minutes of walking or whatever cardio you like. If you really get the hang of it, you might even want to do the Carb Back Loading protocol which seems to be for people who want to get really low body fat and develop their muscles. I'm going to stick with CNS for now to lose the body fat first with normal exercise and weight training. I'll wait and see if I want to do the Carb Back Loading at that point.

    Hope this helps. Would love to be friends and support each other during the journey. I'm really knowledgeable about low carb dieting.

    I was just looking at your diary, how is carb night working for you? I am not going as low carb as many do (but I do remain in ketosis I check daily) Not sure how much that would affect a carb refeeding night or not. I.E I am not sure how necessary it is for me since It is moderate low carb instead of low low carb.. but I like the idea of having a carb night once a week or so.
  • JuicyPoofs
    JuicyPoofs Posts: 3 Member
    Keto rules, give it a try. Look at my ticker for proof, lost 45lbs in about 3-4 months (and that's with taking a couple breaks for 1-2 weeks and cheat meals here and there, so I wasn't 100% strict with it the entire time).

    The first "shock" of not eating carbs can be hard to get over, (You mean I can't have bread/pasta/chips/potatoes/fruits OMFG!). But once you get past that, it's pretty straight forward.

    The first week can be rough, as some experience "keto-flu", wherein your body is changing from using carbs as a primary fuel source to using fats as your primary fuel source. Effects can range from Dirahhea, Insomnia, Bad Breath, Headaches, Light-headedness, Tired, ect.. My "keto-flu" only lasts about the first 72 hours and it's just mild Dirahhea and some Insomnia.

    The good news is once your past the "flu", your in ketosis and your burning stored fats as a primary energy source. It's not unheard of to lose 10-15+ lbs in the first 2 weeks, granted most of this is water weight (you retain less water when in ketosis) it's still impressive.

    Once your past the initial water weight loss, the lb's drop off much slower. But I still consistantly lose 2-3 lbs a week on ketosis into my 4th month on it.

    The best part of ketosis (besides the rapid weight loss) is the burst of energy you get. I sleep less hours than I did when I was eating carbs, I also wake up much earlier than when eating carbs, and I have more energy throughout the day, and I never feel bogged down after a meal. Luckily I don't get the bad breath associated with ketosis, your mileage may vary.
  • EddieHaskell97
    EddieHaskell97 Posts: 2,227 Member
    Keto rules, give it a try. Look at my ticker for proof, lost 45lbs in about 3-4 months (and that's with taking a couple breaks for 1-2 weeks and cheat meals here and there, so I wasn't 100% strict with it the entire time).

    The first "shock" of not eating carbs can be hard to get over, (You mean I can't have bread/pasta/chips/potatoes/fruits OMFG!). But once you get past that, it's pretty straight forward.

    The first week can be rough, as some experience "keto-flu", wherein your body is changing from using carbs as a primary fuel source to using fats as your primary fuel source. Effects can range from Dirahhea, Insomnia, Bad Breath, Headaches, Light-headedness, Tired, ect.. My "keto-flu" only lasts about the first 72 hours and it's just mild Dirahhea and some Insomnia.

    The good news is once your past the "flu", your in ketosis and your burning stored fats as a primary energy source. It's not unheard of to lose 10-15+ lbs in the first 2 weeks, granted most of this is water weight (you retain less water when in ketosis) it's still impressive.

    Once your past the initial water weight loss, the lb's drop off much slower. But I still consistantly lose 2-3 lbs a week on ketosis into my 4th month on it.

    The best part of ketosis (besides the rapid weight loss) is the burst of energy you get. I sleep less hours than I did when I was eating carbs, I also wake up much earlier than when eating carbs, and I have more energy throughout the day, and I never feel bogged down after a meal. Luckily I don't get the bad breath associated with ketosis, your mileage may vary.

    ^^^^^ This!

    I've been in ketosis since June 3rd, and I've lost 43 lbs since then.
  • jayrudq
    jayrudq Posts: 475 Member
    If you are getting test strips - cut them in half length wise. They go twice as far and you can test more often. If you are complusive. Like I am...
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
    If you are getting test strips - cut them in half length wise. They go twice as far and you can test more often. If you are complusive. Like I am...

    great idea!
  • samb330
    samb330 Posts: 328 Member
    bump
  • blmurphy37
    blmurphy37 Posts: 55 Member
    i started today! im hoping it goes well!
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
    Good luck, my dear. carb flu sucks, but the rewards are definitely worth it. Don't forget that in order to lose weight (if that's your goal) a modest deficit is still needed :drinker:
  • kiramaniac
    kiramaniac Posts: 800 Member
    Good luck, my dear. carb flu sucks, but the rewards are definitely worth it. Don't forget that in order to lose weight (if that's your goal) a modest deficit is still needed :drinker:

    Carb flu can suck, but it's primarily an issue of sodium and electrolytes.

    From "The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living" Low carb diets are natriuretic - they make the kidneys dump sodium. Sodium deficiency can cause headache, dizziness and fatigue. With continued low carb intake and sodium restriction, at some point your kidneys start to excrete potassium in order to conserve sodium. Potassium deficiency can lead to muscle cramps, cardiac dysrythmia. it can also cause the body to lose muscle, even when there's plenty of protein in the diet.

    So - easiest thing to do, especially for those starting up is to drink a cup of chicken broth. I keep bouillon cubes at work, and will pop one in a cup of hot water. To make this even better, once dissolved, ad 2 tbsp heavy cream. The fat satiates and helps with cravings; the sodium keeps the carb flu at bay.

    Good Luck! Come join us over at the keto or Low Carber forums.
  • elsdonward
    elsdonward Posts: 81 Member
    Just a short note on Ketosis. A process of weight loss by making you ILL,. A must to avoid.

    There is no doubt that it works - you will lose weight by forcing your body process and denying an essential part of your healthy requirements. There is also no doubt that it does harm to the cardiovascular system in the longer term. If you shy away from carbohydrates then you are denying yourself the basic starchy foods of your ancestors - Meat and fish contain saturated fat and cholesterol - eat plenty and your levels will go up. Meat also contains anti-biotics and other additives - and you end up cooking it in oils.- do you really want this kind of fat in your veins?. Moderation is the key - being under your calorific level is the key and a healthy diet with carbs, vegetables and starchy food is the best way to live longer and avoid high blood pressure, diabetes and all of those ailments associated with meat and dairy products.

    Robert Atkins died from a fall outside his office. But the autopsy revealed heart disease. If you value your mortality - do not go this way
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
    Just a short note on Ketosis. A process of weight loss by making you ILL,. A must to avoid.

    There is no doubt that it works - you will lose weight by forcing your body process and denying an essential part of your healthy requirements. There is also no doubt that it does harm to the cardiovascular system in the longer term. If you shy away from carbohydrates then you are denying yourself the basic starchy foods of your ancestors - Meat and fish contain saturated fat and cholesterol - eat plenty and your levels will go up. Meat also contains anti-biotics and other additives - and you end up cooking it in oils.- do you really want this kind of fat in your veins?. Moderation is the key - being under your calorific level is the key and a healthy diet with carbs, vegetables and starchy food is the best way to live longer and avoid high blood pressure, diabetes and all of those ailments associated with meat and dairy products.

    Robert Atkins died from a fall outside his office. But the autopsy revealed heart disease. If you value your mortality - do not go this way

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  • MermaidTX
    MermaidTX Posts: 352 Member
    Just a short note on Ketosis. A process of weight loss by making you ILL,. A must to avoid.

    There is no doubt that it works - you will lose weight by forcing your body process and denying an essential part of your healthy requirements. There is also no doubt that it does harm to the cardiovascular system in the longer term. If you shy away from carbohydrates then you are denying yourself the basic starchy foods of your ancestors - Meat and fish contain saturated fat and cholesterol - eat plenty and your levels will go up. Meat also contains anti-biotics and other additives - and you end up cooking it in oils.- do you really want this kind of fat in your veins?. Moderation is the key - being under your calorific level is the key and a healthy diet with carbs, vegetables and starchy food is the best way to live longer and avoid high blood pressure, diabetes and all of those ailments associated with meat and dairy products.

    Robert Atkins died from a fall outside his office. But the autopsy revealed heart disease. If you value your mortality - do not go this way

    It always cracks me up when people tell me I'm "gonna die" if I "don't eat carbohydrates". :)
  • lois4468
    lois4468 Posts: 166 Member
    interesting idea
  • TomDonis
    TomDonis Posts: 26 Member
    Keto diet is also how I lost as much as I have. Definitely recommend it 100%.

    I started at 110 kg (242 lbs) and have lost 39.2 kg (86 lbs) and counting!
  • astartig
    astartig Posts: 549 Member
    Just a short note on Ketosis. A process of weight loss by making you ILL,. A must to avoid.

    There is no doubt that it works - you will lose weight by forcing your body process and denying an essential part of your healthy requirements. There is also no doubt that it does harm to the cardiovascular system in the longer term. If you shy away from carbohydrates then you are denying yourself the basic starchy foods of your ancestors - Meat and fish contain saturated fat and cholesterol - eat plenty and your levels will go up. Meat also contains anti-biotics and other additives - and you end up cooking it in oils.- do you really want this kind of fat in your veins?. Moderation is the key - being under your calorific level is the key and a healthy diet with carbs, vegetables and starchy food is the best way to live longer and avoid high blood pressure, diabetes and all of those ailments associated with meat and dairy products.

    Robert Atkins died from a fall outside his office. But the autopsy revealed heart disease. If you value your mortality - do not go this way

    malarky.
    studies have shown that this diet actually reduces bad cholesterol. Not all meat contains anti biotics and other additives. There are many reasons that one can have a bad heart, diet is not the sole predictor. heredity also plays a part. I also do not think that one can say for certain what atkins actually was eating in his lifetime. Just because he was pushing a diet doesn't mean he actually was following it. at 258 pounds at death I find it unlikely he was following it.

    When you go into ketosis it changes your metabolism and the way your body functions .yeah, you're in trouble if you eat so much fat on a high carb diet but your body is functioning very differently on a high carb diet. I suggest you read some studies on this kind of diet before busting in here wiht misinformation.
  • jen_zz
    jen_zz Posts: 1,011 Member
    My breakfast is usually an egg omelette or a keto crepe(made with one egg and two tbsps of cream cheese). Lunch is either deli meat and cheese or chicken. Dinner is tuna or eggs. I also eat home-made fat bombs, which are basically keto candy where it's high fat and very low carb. My ticker is an indicator of keto's success thus far.

    Keto crepe sounds good...care to share recipe & method?...I'm getting tired of over easy :blushing:

    ETA: before the firestorm, I thought I'd add go here for additional info http://www.reddit.com/r/keto

    The crepe is pretty simple. You melt two tbsp of cream cheese in the microwave, then beat in the egg until a batter forms. Pour it in the pan over medium heat, wait about 3-5 minutes, give or take, flip, wait another 3ish minutes, then serve with either whipped cream or peanut butter. I like the peanut butter better because the whipped cream melts. I also use butter on the pan to add more fat to it.

    That sounds amazing
  • moodyfeesh14
    moodyfeesh14 Posts: 811 Member
    Yes, Ketosis can work however, I highly recommend having a doctor monitoring you in a keto state because if you stay in it too long you send your body into ketoacidosis and can cause major problems by having your blood pH drop and become acidic. I am not trying to say that you are going to die because you wouldn't at least not for a few years but there can be some problems if taken too far.
  • astartig
    astartig Posts: 549 Member
    Yes, Ketosis can work however, I highly recommend having a doctor monitoring you in a keto state because if you stay in it too long you send your body into ketoacidosis and can cause major problems by having your blood pH drop and become acidic. I am not trying to say that you are going to die because you wouldn't at least not for a few years but there can be some problems if taken too far.

    This isn't true. acidosis happens with type 1 diabetics and very very rarely type 2 diabetics. You can buy a urine test called ketostix that tells you how far into ketosis you are and if you have any glucose in your urine. If you have ketones and glucose showing up at the same time you should probably go to the doctor but to the best of my understanding that is a very very rare occurrence. If you have medical concerns you should go to the doctor before starting ANY diet or exercise routine.

    Ketosis for a healthy adult is a non dangerous state. the body can burn two types of fuel, glucose or ketones. (fatty acids) in ketosis you basically are just switching over to kerosine from coal for your internal furnace. your body can operate just fine on fat instead of sugar.
  • nicola1812
    nicola1812 Posts: 32 Member
    bump
  • supergirl6
    supergirl6 Posts: 224 Member
    I started this but for different reasons than most - My thyroid stopped functioning properly and I stopped losing weight by just counting calories and having a deficit (though I was losing 2 lbs a week before it went hypo.) Even though mathematically I should have been losing, I wasn't, even when the meds leveled me out. And that was ok because I felt better, but then I developed a gluten intolerance and started getting sick EVERY time I ate anything that had gluten in it. Which turns out to be just about everything.

    Ketosis makes it really easy to avoid gluten, I'm losing weight again easily, and for the first time in like 6 months I don't throw up every time I eat. I feel SO much better. I can't describe how great I feel after all this time.

    I am monitored by a bariatric doctor right now though. They were the ones who turned me onto this since I was getting sick all the time and not losing weight and I did NOT want to turn to surgery but I also didn't want to be sick anymore. I wanted a different solution and this works for me. I am really, really, really grateful for the diet.
  • blueboxgeek
    blueboxgeek Posts: 574 Member
    Keto diets do work! Keep to a small calorie defecit, high fat, moderate protein and low carb. I've done them in the past and even though I obviously gain some water weight when I eat carbs again there is always still a great loss. I think it's probably due to the decreased appetite that keto can bring which means it's easier to stick to your calorie goals.
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