Got berated today at Planet Fitness for my mask
I have gotten my 2nd Covid shot. And when I went to the gym, I wasn't around anyone. I was on the cardio machine all by myself. Anyways, I got a little too clever. I thought that if I could just cut out a little hole in my mask, I could breathe better. It was barely even noticeable. I'm just trying to breathe.
Staff came over to me and told me that my mask is unacceptable. She berated me. Don't I get a little credit for the effort? I understand that we want to prevent spread. But I've already gotten my 2nd shot and I wasn't around anybody. At some point, this is silly. Do you really believe that having a small hole in the mask is going to infect somebody more than just wearing the mask regularly? It's still covering most of the mouth, there's just a small, little hole. I'm just trying to breathe! I'm working out. What's the point of the gym if you can't really work? At what point does this end?
Staff came over to me and told me that my mask is unacceptable. She berated me. Don't I get a little credit for the effort? I understand that we want to prevent spread. But I've already gotten my 2nd shot and I wasn't around anybody. At some point, this is silly. Do you really believe that having a small hole in the mask is going to infect somebody more than just wearing the mask regularly? It's still covering most of the mouth, there's just a small, little hole. I'm just trying to breathe! I'm working out. What's the point of the gym if you can't really work? At what point does this end?
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Our gyms have COVID rules that have to be followed or they will be closed down. Follow the rules in the gym, or run in the park.16
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I think you know the answers to all these questions already but since you're asking...
You know you're not considered vaccinated until final shot PLUS TWO WEEKS. So "gotten my 2nd shot" on its own does not get you "points" or allow you to break the rules, even "just a little".
Speaking of "just a little" - if it was "just a small, little hole" in a condom, would you feel the same way? My guess is No.
Credit for effort? When you're going against the rules designed to 1) keep people safe, and 2) abide by the laws so the business can stay open? What are you, 3 years old?
Lastly, when does it end? When people do what's needed so we can ALL benefit.
I don't mean to be harsh, but I've lived in a COVID hot-spot for more than a year - and compliance is pretty high because people have experienced the real tragedies that resulted. Please continue to do your part (and thanks for getting vaccinated).
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Simple solution - if you don't like the rules at the gym then don't go to the gym.15
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Good. That employee was doing her job. If you can't abide by the rules of a space, the solution is to leave that space, not decide that your personal comfort is more important than protecting other people from a virus that has already killed almost 4 million people. I'm sorry if you made this post looking for someone to defend you and agree that you're the victim here, because you aren't. You dun goofed, get over it or work out somewhere else.18
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Sorry, but as an employee of a gym chain, I would have also asked to change masks. We have to adhere to the county's rules or we end up closing down. I don't like it anymore than you do and I've also had my 2nd shot and 7 negative COVID tests. And even if they lift the mask mandates where I live (in California), I'll still give my clients the option as to whether they want me to wear a mask while I train them.
If you don't want to wear one for cardio, consider doing it outside.
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I feel so sorry for employees who have to deal with people who think the rules shouldn't apply to them. So many special snowflakes out there.14
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SuzySunshine99 wrote: »I feel so sorry for employees who have to deal with people who think the rules shouldn't apply to them. So many special snowflakes out there.
You rang?11 -
snowflake954 wrote: »SuzySunshine99 wrote: »I feel so sorry for employees who have to deal with people who think the rules shouldn't apply to them. So many special snowflakes out there.
You rang?
You're a different kind of "Special Snowflake".
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This is just a perfect case of Poe's law in action.4
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I am with the OP. If there was no one around you, then why does it matter? Glad the mask requirement is no longer a thing in my area.7
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I am with the OP. If there was no one around you, then why does it matter? Glad the mask requirement is no longer a thing in my area.
I would argue that it matters for the employees who likely have to deal with multiple people daily coming into their workplace and trying to explain why they're an exception to these rules designed to safeguard both customers and employees.
It matters if you're a business owner just trying to keep your gym open in an area that has mask guidelines that businesses are expected to follow.
And it matters if you're dealing with someone whose understanding of how diseases are spread is so poor that they think cutting a hole in a mask doesn't compromise its effectiveness . . . why would you take this person's word that they were standing far enough away from everyone else to prevent any possible transmission when they don't even understand how to properly use a simple device like a mask?11 -
I am with the OP. If there was no one around you, then why does it matter? Glad the mask requirement is no longer a thing in my area.
It matters because those are the rules at that private business.
If you can't or don't want to follow the rules, you can take your business elsewhere.14 -
I teach my daughter that the first question to ask yourself in the decision making process, is "Is it legal?" haha
Seriously, though, laws and rules(as much as we sometimes disagree with them) are usually made to protect people...I don't have a problem wearing them indoors even though I'm vaccinated...at least until there's hardly any new cases in the community.4 -
Whoah, calm down mate. These readings I'm getting on my Karen-o-Meter are off the chart over here.13
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Just had to say how much I loved the condom comparison.
And so true!!
Having had a child-care business in my own home for almost 40 years, I had rules to follow as well. If someone didn't like it, there were other places to choose from that would've been better suited to their needs. Same thing goes for other businesses. If you don't like their rules, at least respect and follow them or go elsewhere that better suits your needs.8 -
I have gotten my 2nd Covid shot. And when I went to the gym, I wasn't around anyone. I was on the cardio machine all by myself. Anyways, I got a little too clever. I thought that if I could just cut out a little hole in my mask, I could breathe better. It was barely even noticeable. I'm just trying to breathe.
Staff came over to me and told me that my mask is unacceptable. She berated me. Don't I get a little credit for the effort? I understand that we want to prevent spread. But I've already gotten my 2nd shot and I wasn't around anybody. At some point, this is silly. Do you really believe that having a small hole in the mask is going to infect somebody more than just wearing the mask regularly? It's still covering most of the mouth, there's just a small, little hole. I'm just trying to breathe! I'm working out. What's the point of the gym if you can't really work? At what point does this end?
This is pretty easy...follow the damn rules. Cutting a hole in your mask completely defeats the purpose. My gym just recently dropped the mask requirement due to our governor dropping the state wide mandate...but they still have signage that says highly encouraged.
If your state still has a government mandate, PF would be in violation just letting you do whatever you want...beyond that, companies can set their own policy. We still have several places here requiring masks upon entrance despite no longer being under statewide mandate.
Just follow the damn rules, it's not particularly hard.6 -
He is following the rules, he is wearing a mask. The purpose of the mask is to protect those around you and he wasn't near anyone. If you are still worried about Covid at this point, get your shot or stay at home.6
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He is following the rules, he is wearing a mask. The purpose of the mask is to protect those around you and he wasn't near anyone. If you are still worried about Covid at this point, get your shot or stay at home.
Cutting a hole in your mask isn't following the rules. I'm vaccinated fully and not particularly worried about COVID...but I also follow the rules of a private establishment. It must be nice to think you're above the rules....but then you're also probably one of those that turns around and says stuff like, "if they just followed the rules blah blah blah"...but hey, those don't apply to me.4 -
He is following the rules, he is wearing a mask. The purpose of the mask is to protect those around you and he wasn't near anyone. If you are still worried about Covid at this point, get your shot or stay at home.
The point of the mask isn't the strap around your ears, it's covering your nose and mouth. That wasn't happening here.
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He is following the rules, he is wearing a mask. The purpose of the mask is to protect those around you and he wasn't near anyone. If you are still worried about Covid at this point, get your shot or stay at home.
But a hole in the mask makes it ineffective--right? Doesn't work? So why did he even bother? Because--rules. Some people are on a waiting list for a shot--like me, in another country. If he was complying why did they call him on it? Glad you're not in my gym.8 -
my gym once required masks, so I wore one of these:
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Please correct me if I'm confused about the vaccine and ability to still catch Covid. It was my understanding, even if you've been vaccinated, you can still catch it but just a milder version so you won't end up terribly sick. And/or you could still be a carrier and pass the virus onto others? They've told people all kinds of things and I'm confused as usual, so err on the side of caution.
FWIW I was fully vaccinated back in March and still will wear a mask, *especially* if a sign on a business tells me too. To me, it's common courtesy and respect.7 -
Please correct me if I'm confused about the vaccine and ability to still catch Covid. It was my understanding, even if you've been vaccinated, you can still catch it but just a milder version so you won't end up terribly sick. And/or you could still be a carrier and pass the virus onto others? They've told people all kinds of things and I'm confused as usual, so err on the side of caution.
FWIW I was fully vaccinated back in March and still will wear a mask, *especially* if a sign on a business tells me too. To me, it's common courtesy and respect.
My understanding is that:
* much like all vaccines (particularly the annual flu vaccine), the COVID vaccines greatly reduce, but do not completely eliminate your chance of becoming infected by SARS-CoV-2 and becoming severely ill. It is not magic, your chances of catching COVID are not 0% but they're a damn sight closer to it once you are vaccinated. If you were already unlikely to become severely ill with COVID, then the odds are now even better for you.
* COVID has a very long incubation time, during which you may be asymptomatic but contagious - we've known this for almost the entirety of the pandemic. That never stopped being true. It stands to reason, then, that if even you are vaccinated, if you are exposed and that immunity from the vaccine prevents you from developing a severe infection, you may still be able to pass viral particles on to other people without ever feeling ill yourself.
* The US is still only about 30% vaccinated - that's not enough for herd immunity to protect people who haven't gotten the shot yet. I don't know about globally or if OP is in the US or not, but as far as I know not many countries are much above 50% yet.
* Therefore, even if you are fully vaccinated (both shots + 2 weeks), 2 out of every 3 people you encounter while going about your daily business are not; even if they are, they may have direct contact with people who are not or cannot be vaccinated, and you can't know if you're infected and posing a risk to those other people until it is far, far too late.
* And therefore, masking and distancing are still extremely necessary in indoor public spaces, because--call me crazy, but--I don't think anyone's grandma deserves to die horribly just so I can be slightly more comfortable in public.10 -
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goal06082021 wrote: »Please correct me if I'm confused about the vaccine and ability to still catch Covid. It was my understanding, even if you've been vaccinated, you can still catch it but just a milder version so you won't end up terribly sick. And/or you could still be a carrier and pass the virus onto others? They've told people all kinds of things and I'm confused as usual, so err on the side of caution.
FWIW I was fully vaccinated back in March and still will wear a mask, *especially* if a sign on a business tells me too. To me, it's common courtesy and respect.
[ I don't think anyone's grandma deserves to die horribly just so I can be slightly more comfortable in public.
Well now, evidently you haven't met my grandma.
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Please correct me if I'm confused about the vaccine and ability to still catch Covid. It was my understanding, even if you've been vaccinated, you can still catch it but just a milder version so you won't end up terribly sick. And/or you could still be a carrier and pass the virus onto others? They've told people all kinds of things and I'm confused as usual, so err on the side of caution.
FWIW I was fully vaccinated back in March and still will wear a mask, *especially* if a sign on a business tells me too. To me, it's common courtesy and respect.
That was the experience in a long-term care home here (very vulnerable elderly population). The vaccinated residents still caught Covid, at least to the extent that they tested positive for the virus, but had either very mild symptoms or were completely asymptomatic. The virus definitely spread but impossible to tell to what extent it was transmitted by vaccinated or unvaccinated persons in that environment.
Contrast that with an earlier pre-vaccine long-term care home outbreak, which accounted for slightly more than a third of our total local Covid deaths.3 -
I'm not sure which is more troubling, the varied opinions about the covid virus and its ramifications........ or the fact that the OP was training at Planet Fitness.8
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Okay so dumb question. Say a "checker" for the county spots you with no mask or hole in it. Then they watch to see if employees or management address the situation. If they don't and they report it to county, you'll likely first get a fine. Then shut down. It's NOT about convenience. It's about adhering to laws set forth. It's like speeding down a vehicleless road. So no one's around, but if HP sees you, they have every reason to ticket you for exceeding the limit and breaking the law......................regardless of what logical reasoning you may have.I am with the OP. If there was no one around you, then why does it matter? Glad the mask requirement is no longer a thing in my area.
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