Just say no...

christinanaomi84

When everyone in your house is about to eat some fast food.. but you are working on your food addictions...and fast food to a food addict, is like crack to a drug addict... So you know , when you stick to it ...it will be such a fullfilling win, but at the exact moment..that double cheese burger is looking too good... and now you are trying to justify you eating it...smh..this struggle is too real...

goal06082021

orrrr, a McDouble is only like 400 cal with decent macro split so you find space in your budget for it if you want a f***ing burger that badly. You've been doing a lot of posting today (and not a lot of engaging with, uh, anyone, as far as I can see) and everything you've said comes off as both extremely disordered as well as performative. You good, bruh?

christinanaomi84

I might be going crazy..who knows

Tsinsin1

Crazy, wow, there are those out there who really are crazy, who might, just might object to being referenced here. We are never crazy, just not in control, or out of sinc, or stressed, but never crazy.

88olds

Try this- how about a single cheeseburger. Or double burger, no cheese. Or even a single burger no cheese.

I found just say no to be too much for me. But I made enough compromises with myself to lose 100 lbs.

And the good news is that our tases change. One day I was out and looked at a guy ready to take a bite out of a giant double cheese pub burger and I thought- Yuk! Something was different for me from then on.

christinanaomi84

88olds wrote: »

Try this- how about a single cheeseburger. Or double burger, no cheese. Or even a single burger no cheese.

I found just say no to be too much for me. But I made enough compromises with myself to lose 100 lbs.

And the good news is that our tases change. One day I was out and looked at a guy ready to take a bite out of a giant double cheese pub burger and I thought- Yuk! Something was different for me from then on.

I did compromise..I just had a plane McChicken and you know what...it wasn't great...but I never thought the food taste good...every time I eat it I wonder why..smh...I can cook better than that... And that's my issue...my relationship with food is unhealthy...it's like a toxic relationship... I just need to separate myself from it... If I could lock myself away for 30 days with only the essentials for survival I would..just to reset my brain... I need to end this codependency I have..

ahoy_m8

christinanaomi84 wrote: »

88olds wrote: »

Try this- how about a single cheeseburger. Or double burger, no cheese. Or even a single burger no cheese.

I found just say no to be too much for me. But I made enough compromises with myself to lose 100 lbs.

And the good news is that our tases change. One day I was out and looked at a guy ready to take a bite out of a giant double cheese pub burger and I thought- Yuk! Something was different for me from then on.

I did compromise..I just had a plane McChicken and you know what...it wasn't great...but I never thought the food taste good...every time I eat it I wonder why..smh...I can cook better than that... And that's my issue...my relationship with food is unhealthy...it's like a toxic relationship... I just need to separate myself from it... If I could lock myself away for 30 days with only the essentials for survival I would..just to reset my brain... I need to end this codependency I have..

Deep breath. I also noticed you posting today with struggles sticking to a pretty difficult plan. I also would like you to know there are easier ways to lose weight. There are no extra points for making it hard on yourself. Kinda the opposite. The easier you can make it for yourself, the higher your odds of success. That's the game here-- how to make a sustained deficit as easy as possible.

Someone on MFP posted this recently, and I though it was a great insight:
"I learned that being authoritarian on myself was far less productive than learning how to negotiate with myself."

Contemplate this: instead of "Just say no," what if you asked yourself, "how can I adjust things so I can say yes?"

ETA: about resetting your brain... it is possible, definitely. Many, many here on MFP have reset. Most will say it was a gradual but steady process. Attempting too much change at once is a recipe for burnout -- for anyone. Slow and steady is the path to lasting change. You can do it! Just not all at once.

goal06082021

christinanaomi84 wrote: »

88olds wrote: »

Try this- how about a single cheeseburger. Or double burger, no cheese. Or even a single burger no cheese.

I found just say no to be too much for me. But I made enough compromises with myself to lose 100 lbs.

And the good news is that our tases change. One day I was out and looked at a guy ready to take a bite out of a giant double cheese pub burger and I thought- Yuk! Something was different for me from then on.

I did compromise..I just had a plane McChicken and you know what...it wasn't great...but I never thought the food taste good...every time I eat it I wonder why..smh...I can cook better than that... And that's my issue...my relationship with food is unhealthy...it's like a toxic relationship... I just need to separate myself from it... If I could lock myself away for 30 days with only the essentials for survival I would..just to reset my brain... I need to end this codependency I have..

That isn't what would happen, though. McDonald's and whatever else will all still be there when you reach goal - if you did cloister yourself away, monk-like, and starve yourself down to an acceptable body size, when you emerged you would have learned nothing about how to actually live as the person you're trying to become. What happens when you hit goal weight? Do you "stop dieting" and go "back to normal"? Normal got you to where you are now, you can't go back to normal and not expect to go back to the body you currently have.

If you're prepared to just never darken the door of a McEstablishment ever again, and live your life as if fast food does not exist, that's a choice you could make, I guess. It would probably serve you better to learn how to coexist with these foods that have such emotional resonance for you, though, and for that you might want to talk to a professional of some kind - a registered dietitian and/or a counselor of some flavor, maybe ones that specialize in disordered eating.

christinanaomi84

goal06082021 wrote: »

christinanaomi84 wrote: »

88olds wrote: »

Try this- how about a single cheeseburger. Or double burger, no cheese. Or even a single burger no cheese.

I found just say no to be too much for me. But I made enough compromises with myself to lose 100 lbs.

And the good news is that our tases change. One day I was out and looked at a guy ready to take a bite out of a giant double cheese pub burger and I thought- Yuk! Something was different for me from then on.

I did compromise..I just had a plane McChicken and you know what...it wasn't great...but I never thought the food taste good...every time I eat it I wonder why..smh...I can cook better than that... And that's my issue...my relationship with food is unhealthy...it's like a toxic relationship... I just need to separate myself from it... If I could lock myself away for 30 days with only the essentials for survival I would..just to reset my brain... I need to end this codependency I have..

That isn't what would happen, though. McDonald's and whatever else will all still be there when you reach goal - if you did cloister yourself away, monk-like, and starve yourself down to an acceptable body size, when you emerged you would have learned nothing about how to actually live as the person you're trying to become. What happens when you hit goal weight? Do you "stop dieting" and go "back to normal"? Normal got you to where you are now, you can't go back to normal and not expect to go back to the body you currently have.

If you're prepared to just never darken the door of a McEstablishment ever again, and live your life as if fast food does not exist, that's a choice you could make, I guess. It would probably serve you better to learn how to coexist with these foods that have such emotional resonance for you, though, and for that you might want to talk to a professional of some kind - a registered dietitian and/or a counselor of some flavor, maybe ones that specialize in disordered eating.

I'm really not doing anything for a goal weight to be honest.more like a complete reset of myself... I have spoke to health specialist and they actually understood my mind set..I have also overcome drug addiction...and relationship, that felt like an addiction...and I move from one addiction to the next... I'm ready to just be free of them all.. the last one I have now is my unhealthy relationship I have with food.. where food became something to do ..or something to consume because of my feelings... actually working on myself and facing my issues instead of hiding behind a wall of unhealthy habits that I have built.

MargaretYakoda

christinanaomi84 wrote: »

goal06082021 wrote: »

christinanaomi84 wrote: »

88olds wrote: »

Try this- how about a single cheeseburger. Or double burger, no cheese. Or even a single burger no cheese.

I found just say no to be too much for me. But I made enough compromises with myself to lose 100 lbs.

And the good news is that our tases change. One day I was out and looked at a guy ready to take a bite out of a giant double cheese pub burger and I thought- Yuk! Something was different for me from then on.

I did compromise..I just had a plane McChicken and you know what...it wasn't great...but I never thought the food taste good...every time I eat it I wonder why..smh...I can cook better than that... And that's my issue...my relationship with food is unhealthy...it's like a toxic relationship... I just need to separate myself from it... If I could lock myself away for 30 days with only the essentials for survival I would..just to reset my brain... I need to end this codependency I have..

That isn't what would happen, though. McDonald's and whatever else will all still be there when you reach goal - if you did cloister yourself away, monk-like, and starve yourself down to an acceptable body size, when you emerged you would have learned nothing about how to actually live as the person you're trying to become. What happens when you hit goal weight? Do you "stop dieting" and go "back to normal"? Normal got you to where you are now, you can't go back to normal and not expect to go back to the body you currently have.

If you're prepared to just never darken the door of a McEstablishment ever again, and live your life as if fast food does not exist, that's a choice you could make, I guess. It would probably serve you better to learn how to coexist with these foods that have such emotional resonance for you, though, and for that you might want to talk to a professional of some kind - a registered dietitian and/or a counselor of some flavor, maybe ones that specialize in disordered eating.

I'm really not doing anything for a goal weight to be honest.more like a complete reset of myself... I have spoke to health specialist and they actually understood my mind set..I have also overcome drug addiction...and relationship, that felt like an addiction...and I move from one addiction to the next... I'm ready to just be free of them all.. the last one I have now is my unhealthy relationship I have with food.. where food became something to do ..or something to consume because of my feelings... actually working on myself and facing my issues instead of hiding behind a wall of unhealthy habits that I have built.

OK. So. You know the drill. This is good.

The thing that jumped out at me about your words here was when you said the McD’s didn’t even taste good.
THAT is something you can use.

I used to eat a whole bag of potato chips at a time. Mind you, this was 20 years ago. But to this day if I have a craving for potato chips I remember how they really taste.
Like cold fat and salt.

Do I sometimes eat them even after thinking of how they really taste? Sure. And every time it just confirms that they’re just not that good.
Useful for a little crunch and salt, sometimes. But very ignorable most times.

Hold on to your knowledge that McD’s doesn’t actually taste great to you. And then find an alternative that does taste good to you.

christinanaomi84

Thank you...that was actually encouraging...

dddankur

Toxic relationship with food? tell me about it. I can cook a bomb meal and crave specific foods all the time. And its always the unhealthy fat sodium blob of absolute deliciousness that you crave haha. but in the past two months, all i've learnt is that it gets better with time. yesterday night i bought this thing i as craving for so long, but put it in the fridge (i eat between 8am to 3pm IF). had it for breakfast as soon as i woke up lol. Didnt even brush my teeth. Guess i love food so much i hate it.

callsitlikeiseeit

everyone has to find what works best for them.

some people do great with total abstinence.

for ME - that would result in total failure. absolute failure. i eat within my calories. period. even if i go over some (or a lot, on occasion). its not the end of the world. 150 pounds lost is the perfect demonstration that you CAN go over (and eat out and go on vacations) and still lose a WHOLE lot of weight.

So... find what works for you. Find what is SUSTAINABLE for you. Do that.