not counting fruit or veg

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nettleboo
nettleboo Posts: 177 Member
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hi im trying to ease myself back into calorie counting so im gonna try a sort of weight watchers approach and have most fruit and veg as free foods with except of potatoes sweetcorn sweet potato pulses parsnips and yams i do have question marks as whether to count banana?? anyone else try this approach and had success?
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  • margo5555
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    personally I find bananas really high bulk food and a block to weight loss unless you are doing loads of excersise
  • nettleboo
    nettleboo Posts: 177 Member
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    i love banana have atleast one a day but i have alot too lose so i can live with it for now im sure fruit and veggies is better than chocolate cake crisps and all other junk i was consuming
  • holly273
    holly273 Posts: 84 Member
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    I'm no expert but I'm fairly sure WW has a slightly larger deficit built in to accommodate for having 'free' foods. I personally can sometimes consume about half of my daily calories in fruit and veg (I'm a massive pineapple/banana monster) so if I just didn't count them and still hit my daily target with other foods, I'd entirely undo any deficit, and probably also create a surplus, resulting in gain rather than loss...not exactly what I'm wanting from this site!
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
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    hi im trying to ease myself back into calorie counting so im gonna try a sort of weight watchers approach and have most fruit and veg as free foods with except of potatoes sweetcorn sweet potato pulses parsnips and yams i do have question marks as whether to count banana?? anyone else try this approach and had success?

    i would end up without a calorie deficit if i ate to my goal but didnt include fruit or veg...
  • nettleboo
    nettleboo Posts: 177 Member
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    thank you for replies im gonna give it a go for a week or two andf see how i go
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
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    i love banana have atleast one a day but i have alot too lose so i can live with it for now im sure fruit and veggies is better than chocolate cake crisps and all other junk i was consuming

    noone would deny that fruit is better for you than chocolate. but if you eat more calories than you need you will put on weight... whether those calories come from bananas or crisps!
  • jetlag
    jetlag Posts: 800 Member
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    I don't eat a lot of fruit, but I find it high-ish in calories so do count it. I have a lot of veg, but it tends to be low calorie so don't bother unless I'm close to my calorie limit. It usually amounts to about 100 calories a day max, even less if I have a salad. Considering I usually eat around 2000 calories, I don't bother.
  • benol1
    benol1 Posts: 867 Member
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    hi im trying to ease myself back into calorie counting so im gonna try a sort of weight watchers approach and have most fruit and veg as free foods with except of potatoes sweetcorn sweet potato pulses parsnips and yams i do have question marks as whether to count banana?? anyone else try this approach and had success?

    Really, you should be counting fruit and vegetables.
    Its not hard and you'll be tracking your calories far more accurately.
  • Mads242
    Mads242 Posts: 5 Member
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    I do count most fruit but I don't count salad vegetables just the dressing/olives etc. Anything starchy I count. Do whatever works for you. You can always adjust over time, just keep an eye on your deficit. Good on you for taking the first steps.
  • trogalicious
    trogalicious Posts: 4,584 Member
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    They count, whether you choose to count them or not. You're only cheating yourself by not counting them... but that's your choice, right?
  • Ainar
    Ainar Posts: 858 Member
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    I think that it's better to count fruits because they have quaite a lot f sugar in them, therefore pretty many calories. But then again it depends how much of fruits you ate and how consistant you are with them. I for example some days ate a lot of fruits what sums up to like 600 cals, what is a lot. And some days I might not ate fruits at all. So I need to count it cos 600 cals is a lot and could effect your weight loss.
    As for green veggies like cucumbers or cabbage, same thing. If you ate a lot of them it can make quite a lot of cals, less than fruits cos there are like no sugar, but still. And if you ate like one small portion a day then it's like no cals, maybe like a 100 or 200 (some people think it's a lot of cals, for me, on 2.5 - 3k cal diet, it isn't), so might as well not count them. It depends how much you ate them and how much total calories you ate.
    Dense veggies like potato, of course you should count them. They have tons of calories...

    Personally I count everything. Simply because I want everything to be perfect. I'm kinda freaky like that with everything I do. And I think you should too if you want the most optimal results.
  • robabob3
    robabob3 Posts: 79 Member
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    I don't count them either, but then again I don't eat them.
  • Ninkyou
    Ninkyou Posts: 6,666 Member
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    I would count them. 150 calorie apple here, 120 calorie banana there... it all adds up. I'm pretty sure my deficit would be nonexistent if I didn't count them. Seems like a good way to fail quickly, but I guess to each their own? Not for me though.
  • nettleboo
    nettleboo Posts: 177 Member
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    well ive counted all my fruit from breakfast today using database details i may count fruit and miss veg
  • YaGigi
    YaGigi Posts: 817 Member
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    I eat a lot of veggies and fruits and if I don't count it, I'd lose half of my calories!

    I count them but I ignore the sugar intake it affects.
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
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    Quite sure I'd be eating at TDEE if I ate my goal but didn't count veggies and fruit.
  • flumi_f
    flumi_f Posts: 1,888 Member
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    Somewhere I have read something about this before...The 'new' WW approach. You get less points and don't count veggies or something similar.

    That guy set his deficit at 300cals less than recommended and didn't count the veggies (with your stated exceptions). Can be done, I guess.

    I would count fruit. Some is quite high in cals with exception of some berries or melons. I would definitely count apples and bananas.
  • SkimFlatWhite68
    SkimFlatWhite68 Posts: 1,254 Member
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    I count absolutely everything, and I think that has been the secret to my success. It all adds up, the good and the bad.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
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    If you are counting calories- count everything.

    If you don't count- then don't count.

    You can't count half the food you eat then ignore the rest- it's totally worthless for the purposes for which you are attending it.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,268 Member
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    If you are counting calories- count everything.

    If you don't count- then don't count.

    You can't count half the food you eat then ignore the rest- it's totally worthless for the purposes for which you are attending it.

    ^^^^This....besides WW has most fruit at 1point and some veggies like carrots cooks, corn etc. at 1 point so even they consider them to have a value

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