What the point in drinking water?

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  • chubaway
    chubaway Posts: 1,645 Member
    To turn your pee white

    White? Really? If mine turned white I would panic. When I drink a lot of water mine turns clear.
  • ATT949
    ATT949 Posts: 1,245 Member
    Seems like I just pee most of it out.

    We need water to survive.

    A really simple way to tell if you need water is - are you thirsty? If you are, you need water. If not, probably not (I use "probably" because some folks have an impaired thirst mechanism)

    A lot of places urge dieters to drink water and for good reason - it can help you lose weight. If you have a stomach with lots of water, you feel full, and will tend to eat less. Many sites don't explain why they recommend 8 cups/day but the only reasons I've seen given are that it fills you up. And that's a good thing.

    My take on it — if you need to drink water to control your urge to eat, do it because being overweight is much worse than drinking water all day. If you don't need help controlling you appetite, why bother? Most of us have the urination thing down pretty well, right?

    The other reason that water helps people on a diet is if you're holding a water bottle, there's less of a chance that you'll put food in your mouth.

    This comes across as a bias but it's one I've had for a while and part of it comes 'cause I grew up in a place where the drinking water wasn't that great (in Bermuda we used to catch the rainwater on our roof and store it in a tank under the house. Water tanks had mold and bacteria so we put guppies in the water tank to get rid of things like mosquitoes. Mold, stale water, and guppy…remnants — yummy!).

    Fast forward to now and it appears that there's no medical evidence to drink the infamous 8 cups a day.

    Yes, that flies in the face of "what everyone knows" but, heh, that's how life is some times.

    Case in point - everyone knows that stomach ulcers come from too much acid in the stomach, right? Wrong. It's a virus according to the Nobel prize winner who he proved his theory even though he had been professionally denounced for his beliefs.

    Another example - even the best scientific minds accept the fact that the human body will survive going faster than 10 MPH in a steam engine but it wasn't always that way. In the early 1800's, scientists were convinced that people would be killed if they were in a train going that speed. So, times change and we learn, right?



    This paper, written by a Dartmouth MD, professor, and author of a book on kidneys has 100 footnotes.

    http://www.dartmouth.edu/~news/releases/2002/aug/080802.html

    And here's another link to a different version:

    http://ajpregu.physiology.org/content/283/5/R993.full


    Even Snopes gets in on this:

    http://www.snopes.com/medical/myths/8glasses.asp


    A more extensive work is "Waterlogged", a new book by Dr. Tim Noakes. I've just started reading it an it's a fascinating review into water consumption in the world of sports. Here's a shock - until Gatorade was invented and millions of dollars were spent on marketing, long distance runners typically drank very little even when running the 26.2 miles in a marathon. Now, we have people sipping on water when they go for a walk! Cui bono?

    A few other things:
    Extra water does not "flush out toxins" - the body does just fine without drinking large amounts of water.

    "Drinking water regulates your body temperature." - there is no medical basis for this statement. Reference is "Waterlogged" by Dr Noakes. Body temperature, in runners, is a function of energy expended and temperature/humidity.

    "Less Cramps and Sprains:" -
    exertional cramps are not caused by water consumption but are a result, so it is believed, of a muscle tiring to the point where it's ability to relax is compromised. The simple test - when a muscle cramps and you rub it, it relaxes. If you rest long enough, it will not cramp again even though you continue to lose water. Athletes with cramps have not shown to have unusual electrolyte levels nor have they shown to have unusual levels of water.

    Cramps in the diaphragm are believed to result from the "relax" signal being lost due to impingement of the nerve coming out of the spine.

    "Reduce the Risk of Cancer: " - "cancer-causing agents in the urine" - this is a very deep secret, apparently. AFAIK, we have not been able to identify a "cause" for cancer much less "cancer-causing agents in the urine".

    I'll stop here.
  • RebeccaHite
    RebeccaHite Posts: 187 Member
    Alcohol does the same thing, you might as well just drink that instead. At least it gives you a happy buzz! :P

    No not really...Tell that to people on Dialysis for liver problems .Alcohol Dehydrates you
  • Siege_Tank
    Siege_Tank Posts: 781 Member
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14681716
    The results demonstrate that the metabolic adaptation to acute hypo-osmolality resembles that of acute fasting, that is, it results in protein sparing associated with increased lipolysis, ketogenesis and lipid oxidation and impaired insulin sensitivity of glucose metabolism.

    Hypo-osmotic cellular swelling (being completely hydrated) promotes lipid (fat) breakdown, while counteracting proteolysis (breaking proteins down into amino acids). Staying fully hydrated also showed a decrease in insulin sensitivity.

    Simply put, you will see greater fatty acid loss from your calorie cuts if you maintain hydration levels in your body. Yes it's annoying to have to pee that much, but being dehydrated makes everything you're trying to achieve come to a screeching halt.

    The key to the above work, I have to add, is ACUTE hydration. Just like with your workouts and your daily calorie consumption, you have to keep changing it up to keep your body from adapting to what you're doing. So, some days, it may be helpful to have a couple glasses of wine and wake up dehydrated, and replenish on other days.

    Sorry ATT949 :flowerforyou:
    Don't let the wretched body adapt!
  • hobbitgeekgirl
    hobbitgeekgirl Posts: 30
    No, see, the water making you need to pee is a way to burn more calories - all of that walking back and forth to the bathroom...it keeps you moving! :) Sneaky exercises.
  • sabified
    sabified Posts: 1,035 Member
    A few things to consider about your "healthy" water. Don't say you weren't warned.

    reasons-why-i-dont-drink-water_c_1164810.jpg



    LOLLOLOLLL
  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
    Seems like I just pee most of it out.

    We need water to survive.

    A really simple way to tell if you need water is - are you thirsty? If you are, you need water. If not, probably not (I use "probably" because some folks have an impaired thirst mechanism)

    A lot of places urge dieters to drink water and for good reason - it can help you lose weight. If you have a stomach with lots of water, you feel full, and will tend to eat less. Many sites don't explain why they recommend 8 cups/day but the only reasons I've seen given are that it fills you up. And that's a good thing.

    My take on it — if you need to drink water to control your urge to eat, do it because being overweight is much worse than drinking water all day. If you don't need help controlling you appetite, why bother? Most of us have the urination thing down pretty well, right?

    The other reason that water helps people on a diet is if you're holding a water bottle, there's less of a chance that you'll put food in your mouth.

    This comes across as a bias but it's one I've had for a while and part of it comes 'cause I grew up in a place where the drinking water wasn't that great (in Bermuda we used to catch the rainwater on our roof and store it in a tank under the house. Water tanks had mold and bacteria so we put guppies in the water tank to get rid of things like mosquitoes. Mold, stale water, and guppy…remnants — yummy!).

    Fast forward to now and it appears that there's no medical evidence to drink the infamous 8 cups a day.

    Yes, that flies in the face of "what everyone knows" but, heh, that's how life is some times.

    Case in point - everyone knows that stomach ulcers come from too much acid in the stomach, right? Wrong. It's a virus according to the Nobel prize winner who he proved his theory even though he had been professionally denounced for his beliefs.

    Another example - even the best scientific minds accept the fact that the human body will survive going faster than 10 MPH in a steam engine but it wasn't always that way. In the early 1800's, scientists were convinced that people would be killed if they were in a train going that speed. So, times change and we learn, right?



    This paper, written by a Dartmouth MD, professor, and author of a book on kidneys has 100 footnotes.

    http://www.dartmouth.edu/~news/releases/2002/aug/080802.html

    And here's another link to a different version:

    http://ajpregu.physiology.org/content/283/5/R993.full


    Even Snopes gets in on this:

    http://www.snopes.com/medical/myths/8glasses.asp


    A more extensive work is "Waterlogged", a new book by Dr. Tim Noakes. I've just started reading it an it's a fascinating review into water consumption in the world of sports. Here's a shock - until Gatorade was invented and millions of dollars were spent on marketing, long distance runners typically drank very little even when running the 26.2 miles in a marathon. Now, we have people sipping on water when they go for a walk! Cui bono?

    A few other things:
    Extra water does not "flush out toxins" - the body does just fine without drinking large amounts of water.

    "Drinking water regulates your body temperature." - there is no medical basis for this statement. Reference is "Waterlogged" by Dr Noakes. Body temperature, in runners, is a direct function of energy expended.

    "Less Cramps and Sprains:" -
    exertional cramps are not caused by water consumption but are a result, so it is believed, of a muscle tiring to the point where it's ability to relax is compromised.
    Cramps in the diaphragm are believed to result from the "relax" signal being lost due to impingement of the nerve coming out of the spine.

    "Reduce the Risk of Cancer: " - "cancer-causing agents in the urine" - this is a very deep secret, apparently. AFAIK, we have not been able to identify a "cause" for cancer much less "cancer-causing agents in the urine".

    I'll stop here.

    Not sure if serious.
  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14681716
    The results demonstrate that the metabolic adaptation to acute hypo-osmolality resembles that of acute fasting, that is, it results in protein sparing associated with increased lipolysis, ketogenesis and lipid oxidation and impaired insulin sensitivity of glucose metabolism.

    Hypo-osmotic cellular swelling (being completely hydrated) promotes lipid (fat) breakdown, while counteracting proteolysis (breaking proteins down into amino acids). Staying fully hydrated also showed a decrease in insulin sensitivity.

    Simply put, you will see greater fatty acid loss from your calorie cuts if you maintain hydration levels in your body. Yes it's annoying to have to pee that much, but being dehydrated makes everything you're trying to achieve come to a screeching halt.

    The key to the above work, I have to add, is ACUTE hydration. Just like with your workouts and your daily calorie consumption, you have to keep changing it up to keep your body from adapting to what you're doing. So, some days, it may be helpful to have a couple glasses of wine and wake up dehydrated, and replenish on other days.

    Don't let the wretched body adapt!

    Not sure if serious.
  • Siege_Tank
    Siege_Tank Posts: 781 Member
    Not sure if serious.

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  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
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    I am well aware of this fact. Thank you for reiterating it.
  • _TimeForMe
    _TimeForMe Posts: 156 Member
    dang it!! My gif's never work!!!
  • Timshel_
    Timshel_ Posts: 22,834 Member
    Seems like I just pee most of it out.

    I recommend you stop.
  • SarahBeth0625
    SarahBeth0625 Posts: 685 Member
    "Is water a carb?"

    I almost spit out my water :laugh:

    :happy: I love me some Mean Girls. haha...
  • AmyP619
    AmyP619 Posts: 1,137 Member
    In response to: "No not really...Tell that to people on Dialysis for liver problems .Alcohol Dehydrates you "


    Lol, why so serious.

    This is obviously a joke thread. Sorry you have no humor.

    And alcohol makes you pee A LOT. That was my point. (NOT for hydration purposes).
  • Joehenny
    Joehenny Posts: 1,222 Member
    Drink blood OP. More anabolic.
  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
    Lol, why so serious.

    This is obviously a joke thread. Sorry you have no humor.

    Ding ding ding ding, we have a winner :)
  • Siege_Tank
    Siege_Tank Posts: 781 Member
    :drinker:
  • Siege_Tank
    Siege_Tank Posts: 781 Member
    This is obviously a joke thread. Sorry you have no humor.

    Sh**. I totally fell for it.

    #HangsHeadInShame
  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
    This is obviously a joke thread. Sorry you have no humor.

    Sh**. I totally fell for it.

    #HangsHeadInShame

    Haha, way to own it :drinker:
  • AmyP619
    AmyP619 Posts: 1,137 Member
    Lol, why so serious.

    This is obviously a joke thread. Sorry you have no humor.

    Ding ding ding ding, we have a winner :)

    lol Sometimes I get it. Not always :P
    Just love when people start bashing on you for playing along because they're taking it seriously.
    Yay MFP threads!!!!!!!!! :D
  • Jersey_Devil
    Jersey_Devil Posts: 4,142 Member
    Seems like I just pee most of it out.

    drink your pee- recycling
  • AmyP619
    AmyP619 Posts: 1,137 Member
    Seems like I just pee most of it out.

    drink your pee- recycling

    I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.
  • FatHuMan1
    FatHuMan1 Posts: 1,028 Member
    Seems like I just pee most of it out.

    drink your pee- recycling

    I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.

    Another great example of recycling.
  • Jersey_Devil
    Jersey_Devil Posts: 4,142 Member
    Seems like I just pee most of it out.

    drink your pee- recycling

    I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.

    Another great example of recycling.

    lol
  • Leather_N_Lace
    Leather_N_Lace Posts: 518 Member
    To turn your pee white

    White? Really? If mine turned white I would panic. When I drink a lot of water mine turns clear.

    Clear!!! My favorite color:)

    I love the way water tastes too!!!!
  • SpeSHul_SnoflEHk
    SpeSHul_SnoflEHk Posts: 6,256 Member
    To turn your pee white

    White? Really? If mine turned white I would panic. When I drink a lot of water mine turns clear.

    Clear!!! My favorite color:)

    I love the way water tastes too!!!!
    Me too as long as I have some mio squirted in it.
  • syedsaad
    syedsaad Posts: 156 Member
    Seems like I just pee most of it out.

    drink your pee- recycling

    I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.

    Just drink tht too ... thts also recycling

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