Sugars in fruit.
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I have a question regarding sugars in fruit. My tracker is always over on sugar due to the fruit I eat. Should I reduce fruit or not worry about this?
Please help..
Thanks,
Please help..
Thanks,
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Don't worry about it. . . unless you're eating a whole lot of fruit, and for me that has um, other consequences.
5-8 servings per day of whole fruit and/or vegetables is the recommendation.
I do try to stay below 100g total sugars daily, including lactose, fructose and sucrose.1 -
Unless you have reasons to watch sugar ((pre)diabetes for example) I really wouldn't worry about it. Generally, it's recommended to avoid too many added sugars (since those are usually in less nutritious foods) but since most labels don't (or didn't in the past) distinguish added sugars from natural ones, MFP has a goal limit for total sugars.
You might find this interesting regarding added sugars:
https://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/data-statistics/added-sugars.html0 -
Ignore it unless you eat so much fruit you are lacking in other things, like protein, healthy fats, or vegetables. If you are eating plenty of veg, have enough protein and have reasonable amounts of healthy fats in your diet, don't worry about sugar from fruit. Fruit is good for you!1
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Sugar in fruit and stuff like that is much different than added sugars0
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I have a question regarding sugars in fruit. My tracker is always over on sugar due to the fruit I eat. Should I reduce fruit or not worry about this?
Please help..
Thanks,
I was over my MFP default sugar goal every day during weight loss (and for 6+ years of maintenance since). It was almost entirely from fruit, sweeter veggies, and the inherent sugars in no-sugar-added dairy foods. I lost weight fine, and health markers improved. I did make it a point to get adequate protein and fats, which I'd recommend that you do also, for best odds of continuing long-term good health.
Absent a pre-existing health problem (such as diabetes) that requires you to manage carbohydrate intake carefully, it's fine to eat lots of fruit in the context of overall good total nutrition.1 -
The quantity of fructose per gram in the sports drink is very different from the quantity of fructose per gram of a piece of fruit. And the fruit comes with fiber. How much fiber does that sports drink have? But you are correct in that fructose is fructose is fructose is fructose. Take that sports drink, mix it 50/50 with water, and add some Metamucil powder to it... they'd be fairly similar1 -
Are you hitting your calorie goal? If so, then don't worry about it. Fruit is yum.0
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And? It doesn’t matter if calories are in check. If you are insinuating “fruit bad” then… I guess that means more bananas for me0 -
And? It doesn’t matter if calories are in check. If you are insinuating “fruit bad” then… I guess that means more bananas for me
Ok, first of all, I eat a banana every day. Stay the *kitten* away from my bananas. 😁
And did you miss the part where I said fruit has nutrients? Where did you get I think it's bad??
Bur, yes, calories are king for weight loss/gain/management.1 -
sollyn23l2 wrote: »
The quantity of fructose per gram in the sports drink is very different from the quantity of fructose per gram of a piece of fruit. And the fruit comes with fiber. How much fiber does that sports drink have? But you are correct in that fructose is fructose is fructose is fructose. Take that sports drink, mix it 50/50 with water, and add some Metamucil powder to it... they'd be fairly similar
But I don't want to be taking in fibre when I'm cycling long distances, I just want the easy availability of energy from the glucose/fructose mix. My perfectly adequate fibre intake comes from the rest of my diet.
Care needs to be taken making statements that are factually incorrect. It can lead to a mistaken focus on the individual components of a diet rather than diet as a complete whole.
"Fruit is different to straight sugar" would be true but that's also something that really doesn't need saying!2 -
Its all about balance. Calories will affect your weight the most, but where you get your calories from affects how you FEEL and PERFORM. I do 750g berries daily and performance/skin/mood has always been amazing.0
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sollyn23l2 wrote: »
The quantity of fructose per gram in the sports drink is very different from the quantity of fructose per gram of a piece of fruit. And the fruit comes with fiber. How much fiber does that sports drink have? But you are correct in that fructose is fructose is fructose is fructose. Take that sports drink, mix it 50/50 with water, and add some Metamucil powder to it... they'd be fairly similar
But I don't want to be taking in fibre when I'm cycling long distances, I just want the easy availability of energy from the glucose/fructose mix. My perfectly adequate fibre intake comes from the rest of my diet.
Care needs to be taken making statements that are factually incorrect. It can lead to a mistaken focus on the individual components of a diet rather than diet as a complete whole.
"Fruit is different to straight sugar" would be true but that's also something that really doesn't need saying!
You could also just as easily get the fructose from a coke or mountain dew... they're all the same.0 -
sollyn23l2 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »
The quantity of fructose per gram in the sports drink is very different from the quantity of fructose per gram of a piece of fruit. And the fruit comes with fiber. How much fiber does that sports drink have? But you are correct in that fructose is fructose is fructose is fructose. Take that sports drink, mix it 50/50 with water, and add some Metamucil powder to it... they'd be fairly similar
But I don't want to be taking in fibre when I'm cycling long distances, I just want the easy availability of energy from the glucose/fructose mix. My perfectly adequate fibre intake comes from the rest of my diet.
Care needs to be taken making statements that are factually incorrect. It can lead to a mistaken focus on the individual components of a diet rather than diet as a complete whole.
"Fruit is different to straight sugar" would be true but that's also something that really doesn't need saying!
You could also just as easily get the fructose from a coke or mountain dew... they're all the same.
As a semi-retired endurance cyclist, a Coke or Mt Dew isn't going to travel very well on a bike, nor will the bubbles feel particularly good. Sports drinks are also infused with electrolytes which need to be replenished when you're cycling for hours at a time. Sodas don't have electrolytes.2 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »
The quantity of fructose per gram in the sports drink is very different from the quantity of fructose per gram of a piece of fruit. And the fruit comes with fiber. How much fiber does that sports drink have? But you are correct in that fructose is fructose is fructose is fructose. Take that sports drink, mix it 50/50 with water, and add some Metamucil powder to it... they'd be fairly similar
But I don't want to be taking in fibre when I'm cycling long distances, I just want the easy availability of energy from the glucose/fructose mix. My perfectly adequate fibre intake comes from the rest of my diet.
Care needs to be taken making statements that are factually incorrect. It can lead to a mistaken focus on the individual components of a diet rather than diet as a complete whole.
"Fruit is different to straight sugar" would be true but that's also something that really doesn't need saying!
You could also just as easily get the fructose from a coke or mountain dew... they're all the same.
As a semi-retired endurance cyclist, a Coke or Mt Dew isn't going to travel very well on a bike, nor will the bubbles feel particularly good. Sports drinks are also infused with electrolytes which need to be replenished when you're cycling for hours at a time. Sodas don't have electrolytes.
Oh, so you're saying the source you get your fructose from does... in fact... matter. Thank you.0 -
sollyn23l2 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »
The quantity of fructose per gram in the sports drink is very different from the quantity of fructose per gram of a piece of fruit. And the fruit comes with fiber. How much fiber does that sports drink have? But you are correct in that fructose is fructose is fructose is fructose. Take that sports drink, mix it 50/50 with water, and add some Metamucil powder to it... they'd be fairly similar
But I don't want to be taking in fibre when I'm cycling long distances, I just want the easy availability of energy from the glucose/fructose mix. My perfectly adequate fibre intake comes from the rest of my diet.
Care needs to be taken making statements that are factually incorrect. It can lead to a mistaken focus on the individual components of a diet rather than diet as a complete whole.
"Fruit is different to straight sugar" would be true but that's also something that really doesn't need saying!
You could also just as easily get the fructose from a coke or mountain dew... they're all the same.
As a semi-retired endurance cyclist, a Coke or Mt Dew isn't going to travel very well on a bike, nor will the bubbles feel particularly good. Sports drinks are also infused with electrolytes which need to be replenished when you're cycling for hours at a time. Sodas don't have electrolytes.
Oh, so you're saying the source you get your fructose from does... in fact... matter. Thank you.
That's not really what I'm saying at all....but thanks for playing. In the context of endurance cycling or endurance sports of any kind a sports drink is superior to a soda because it has electrolytes and travels well on a bike...has zip to do with the fructose aspect. Fructose is fructose is fructose.3 -
I think the point is don't not eat fruit because of the sugar and don't not drink a sports drink because it doesn't have fiber. 😀
And where's the op? Ate too much fruit?
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I think the point is don't not eat fruit because of the sugar and don't not drink a sports drink because it doesn't have fiber. 😀
And where's the op? Ate too much fruit?
lol
I think I had the first reply in the thread, "Don't worry about it."
Maybe he got his answer (?)
Ya'll took it to a whole other level of debate, though.1 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »
The quantity of fructose per gram in the sports drink is very different from the quantity of fructose per gram of a piece of fruit. And the fruit comes with fiber. How much fiber does that sports drink have? But you are correct in that fructose is fructose is fructose is fructose. Take that sports drink, mix it 50/50 with water, and add some Metamucil powder to it... they'd be fairly similar
But I don't want to be taking in fibre when I'm cycling long distances, I just want the easy availability of energy from the glucose/fructose mix. My perfectly adequate fibre intake comes from the rest of my diet.
Care needs to be taken making statements that are factually incorrect. It can lead to a mistaken focus on the individual components of a diet rather than diet as a complete whole.
"Fruit is different to straight sugar" would be true but that's also something that really doesn't need saying!
You could also just as easily get the fructose from a coke or mountain dew... they're all the same.
As a semi-retired endurance cyclist, a Coke or Mt Dew isn't going to travel very well on a bike, nor will the bubbles feel particularly good. Sports drinks are also infused with electrolytes which need to be replenished when you're cycling for hours at a time. Sodas don't have electrolytes.
Oh, so you're saying the source you get your fructose from does... in fact... matter. Thank you.
That's not really what I'm saying at all....but thanks for playing. In the context of endurance cycling or endurance sports of any kind a sports drink is superior to a soda because it has electrolytes and travels well on a bike...has zip to do with the fructose aspect. Fructose is fructose is fructose.
And if the source didn't matter, you wouldn't consider ANY of those other variables, is my point. The source matters specifically because of all those other variables you so kindly mention.0 -
sollyn23l2 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »
The quantity of fructose per gram in the sports drink is very different from the quantity of fructose per gram of a piece of fruit. And the fruit comes with fiber. How much fiber does that sports drink have? But you are correct in that fructose is fructose is fructose is fructose. Take that sports drink, mix it 50/50 with water, and add some Metamucil powder to it... they'd be fairly similar
But I don't want to be taking in fibre when I'm cycling long distances, I just want the easy availability of energy from the glucose/fructose mix. My perfectly adequate fibre intake comes from the rest of my diet.
Care needs to be taken making statements that are factually incorrect. It can lead to a mistaken focus on the individual components of a diet rather than diet as a complete whole.
"Fruit is different to straight sugar" would be true but that's also something that really doesn't need saying!
You could also just as easily get the fructose from a coke or mountain dew... they're all the same.
As a semi-retired endurance cyclist, a Coke or Mt Dew isn't going to travel very well on a bike, nor will the bubbles feel particularly good. Sports drinks are also infused with electrolytes which need to be replenished when you're cycling for hours at a time. Sodas don't have electrolytes.
Oh, so you're saying the source you get your fructose from does... in fact... matter. Thank you.
That's not really what I'm saying at all....but thanks for playing. In the context of endurance cycling or endurance sports of any kind a sports drink is superior to a soda because it has electrolytes and travels well on a bike...has zip to do with the fructose aspect. Fructose is fructose is fructose.
And if the source didn't matter, you wouldn't consider ANY of those other variables, is my point. The source matters specifically because of all those other variables you so kindly mention.
You're entirely missing the point. Fructose is fructose is fructose...your body doesn't treat it any differently regardless of source. Obviously there would be situations where one form would be superior specific to that situation...but that has nothing to do with the fructose itself. This really isn't that hard.3 -
sollyn23l2 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »
The quantity of fructose per gram in the sports drink is very different from the quantity of fructose per gram of a piece of fruit. And the fruit comes with fiber. How much fiber does that sports drink have? But you are correct in that fructose is fructose is fructose is fructose. Take that sports drink, mix it 50/50 with water, and add some Metamucil powder to it... they'd be fairly similar
But I don't want to be taking in fibre when I'm cycling long distances, I just want the easy availability of energy from the glucose/fructose mix. My perfectly adequate fibre intake comes from the rest of my diet.
Care needs to be taken making statements that are factually incorrect. It can lead to a mistaken focus on the individual components of a diet rather than diet as a complete whole.
"Fruit is different to straight sugar" would be true but that's also something that really doesn't need saying!
You could also just as easily get the fructose from a coke or mountain dew... they're all the same.
As a semi-retired endurance cyclist, a Coke or Mt Dew isn't going to travel very well on a bike, nor will the bubbles feel particularly good. Sports drinks are also infused with electrolytes which need to be replenished when you're cycling for hours at a time. Sodas don't have electrolytes.
Oh, so you're saying the source you get your fructose from does... in fact... matter. Thank you.
That's not really what I'm saying at all....but thanks for playing. In the context of endurance cycling or endurance sports of any kind a sports drink is superior to a soda because it has electrolytes and travels well on a bike...has zip to do with the fructose aspect. Fructose is fructose is fructose.
And if the source didn't matter, you wouldn't consider ANY of those other variables, is my point. The source matters specifically because of all those other variables you so kindly mention.
The source only matters IF you need the fiber or electrolytes or whatever other nutrients you're missing or want.
The real point is the op was worried about eating fruit (with nutrients) because of the sugar but, since sugar is sugar is sugar, he didn't need to worry about that (the sugar) part.
Now I just really want a nobody but me thinks there's any nutrition in a cookie...cookie
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sollyn23l2 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »
The quantity of fructose per gram in the sports drink is very different from the quantity of fructose per gram of a piece of fruit. And the fruit comes with fiber. How much fiber does that sports drink have? But you are correct in that fructose is fructose is fructose is fructose. Take that sports drink, mix it 50/50 with water, and add some Metamucil powder to it... they'd be fairly similar
But I don't want to be taking in fibre when I'm cycling long distances, I just want the easy availability of energy from the glucose/fructose mix. My perfectly adequate fibre intake comes from the rest of my diet.
Care needs to be taken making statements that are factually incorrect. It can lead to a mistaken focus on the individual components of a diet rather than diet as a complete whole.
"Fruit is different to straight sugar" would be true but that's also something that really doesn't need saying!
You could also just as easily get the fructose from a coke or mountain dew... they're all the same.
Wrong.
Read the ingredients and you will see they are different. Because sports drink are formulated specifically for purpose and not just as a refreshing beverage. And different sports drinks have different purposes and dosages.
A mix could be 2:1 ratio of glucose to fructose (though some are glucose only (glucose has faster absorbtion rate) for energy.
Some have electrolytes to replenish what is lost through sweating (although some people prefer to work out their electrolytes separately). I don't need additional electrolytes in winter but do in hot weather.
Some sports drinks will include caffeine (some won't).
I've also used a mix that includes some protein which clearly Coke and Mountain Dew do not.
The whole point I was making is that individual shared ingredients (including specific types of sugar (and even water!) will be identical. That's it. You can't extrapolate to saying two different drinks with different ingredients are "all the same".
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sollyn23l2 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »
The quantity of fructose per gram in the sports drink is very different from the quantity of fructose per gram of a piece of fruit. And the fruit comes with fiber. How much fiber does that sports drink have? But you are correct in that fructose is fructose is fructose is fructose. Take that sports drink, mix it 50/50 with water, and add some Metamucil powder to it... they'd be fairly similar
But I don't want to be taking in fibre when I'm cycling long distances, I just want the easy availability of energy from the glucose/fructose mix. My perfectly adequate fibre intake comes from the rest of my diet.
Care needs to be taken making statements that are factually incorrect. It can lead to a mistaken focus on the individual components of a diet rather than diet as a complete whole.
"Fruit is different to straight sugar" would be true but that's also something that really doesn't need saying!
You could also just as easily get the fructose from a coke or mountain dew... they're all the same.
Wrong.
Read the ingredients and you will see they are different. Because sports drink are formulated specifically for purpose and not just as a refreshing beverage. And different sports drinks have different purposes and dosages.
A mix could be 2:1 ratio of glucose to fructose (though some are glucose only (glucose has faster absorbtion rate) for energy.
Some have electrolytes to replenish what is lost through sweating (although some people prefer to work out their electrolytes separately). I don't need additional electrolytes in winter but do in hot weather.
Some sports drinks will include caffeine (some won't).
I've also used a mix that includes some protein which clearly Coke and Mountain Dew do not.
The whole point I was making is that individual shared ingredients (including specific types of sugar (and even water!) will be identical. That's it. You can't extrapolate to saying two different drinks with different ingredients are "all the same".
That was my exact point. You are correct, good sir. The other poster was trying to say they were the same. I was not.0 -
They are not saying that source matters, they are saying CONTEXT and SOURCE matter.
For the average non-endurance training person, neither context nor source matter. If you are running marathons (or even just running more than a couple of miles) or doing long distance biking, then the source does matter - because in that context, you will be sweating out large amounts of electrolytes that need to be replenished as well as blowing thru a large amount of energy to sustain the exercise.0 -
sollyn23l2 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »
The quantity of fructose per gram in the sports drink is very different from the quantity of fructose per gram of a piece of fruit. And the fruit comes with fiber. How much fiber does that sports drink have? But you are correct in that fructose is fructose is fructose is fructose. Take that sports drink, mix it 50/50 with water, and add some Metamucil powder to it... they'd be fairly similar
But I don't want to be taking in fibre when I'm cycling long distances, I just want the easy availability of energy from the glucose/fructose mix. My perfectly adequate fibre intake comes from the rest of my diet.
Care needs to be taken making statements that are factually incorrect. It can lead to a mistaken focus on the individual components of a diet rather than diet as a complete whole.
"Fruit is different to straight sugar" would be true but that's also something that really doesn't need saying!
You could also just as easily get the fructose from a coke or mountain dew... they're all the same.
Wrong.
Read the ingredients and you will see they are different. Because sports drink are formulated specifically for purpose and not just as a refreshing beverage. And different sports drinks have different purposes and dosages.
A mix could be 2:1 ratio of glucose to fructose (though some are glucose only (glucose has faster absorbtion rate) for energy.
Some have electrolytes to replenish what is lost through sweating (although some people prefer to work out their electrolytes separately). I don't need additional electrolytes in winter but do in hot weather.
Some sports drinks will include caffeine (some won't).
I've also used a mix that includes some protein which clearly Coke and Mountain Dew do not.
The whole point I was making is that individual shared ingredients (including specific types of sugar (and even water!) will be identical. That's it. You can't extrapolate to saying two different drinks with different ingredients are "all the same".
That was my exact point. You are correct, good sir. The other poster was trying to say they were the same. I was not.
If that really was your point then I'm sorry but you made a dreadful job of making it.
You are also misrepresenting what @cwolfman13 said.
He specifically pointed out some of the differences to correct your assertion "they're all the same" which you now seem to be retracting.
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sollyn23l2 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »
The quantity of fructose per gram in the sports drink is very different from the quantity of fructose per gram of a piece of fruit. And the fruit comes with fiber. How much fiber does that sports drink have? But you are correct in that fructose is fructose is fructose is fructose. Take that sports drink, mix it 50/50 with water, and add some Metamucil powder to it... they'd be fairly similar
But I don't want to be taking in fibre when I'm cycling long distances, I just want the easy availability of energy from the glucose/fructose mix. My perfectly adequate fibre intake comes from the rest of my diet.
Care needs to be taken making statements that are factually incorrect. It can lead to a mistaken focus on the individual components of a diet rather than diet as a complete whole.
"Fruit is different to straight sugar" would be true but that's also something that really doesn't need saying!
You could also just as easily get the fructose from a coke or mountain dew... they're all the same.
Wrong.
Read the ingredients and you will see they are different. Because sports drink are formulated specifically for purpose and not just as a refreshing beverage. And different sports drinks have different purposes and dosages.
A mix could be 2:1 ratio of glucose to fructose (though some are glucose only (glucose has faster absorbtion rate) for energy.
Some have electrolytes to replenish what is lost through sweating (although some people prefer to work out their electrolytes separately). I don't need additional electrolytes in winter but do in hot weather.
Some sports drinks will include caffeine (some won't).
I've also used a mix that includes some protein which clearly Coke and Mountain Dew do not.
The whole point I was making is that individual shared ingredients (including specific types of sugar (and even water!) will be identical. That's it. You can't extrapolate to saying two different drinks with different ingredients are "all the same".
That was my exact point. You are correct, good sir. The other poster was trying to say they were the same. I was not.
If that really was your point then I'm sorry but you made a dreadful job of making it.
You are also misrepresenting what @cwolfman13 said.
He specifically pointed out some of the differences to correct your assertion "they're all the same" which you now seem to be retracting.
Agreed. I made several comments, which clearly nobody read. My point was that, yes, fructose is fructose is fructose is fructose.... however, you will want to choose the source of your fructose based of the other ingredients that come along with the fructose.1 -
When I had the hiccups, to get rid of them I would down a spoonful of sugar and chug some water backwards out of a glass and it worked!0
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Well I can’t burp (at the risk of over-sharing here) so I would explode if I tried lifting after drinking coke 🤣 But lucozade sport is fine as it’s not fizzy 😀sollyn23l2 wrote: »sollyn23l2 wrote: »
The quantity of fructose per gram in the sports drink is very different from the quantity of fructose per gram of a piece of fruit. And the fruit comes with fiber. How much fiber does that sports drink have? But you are correct in that fructose is fructose is fructose is fructose. Take that sports drink, mix it 50/50 with water, and add some Metamucil powder to it... they'd be fairly similar
But I don't want to be taking in fibre when I'm cycling long distances, I just want the easy availability of energy from the glucose/fructose mix. My perfectly adequate fibre intake comes from the rest of my diet.
Care needs to be taken making statements that are factually incorrect. It can lead to a mistaken focus on the individual components of a diet rather than diet as a complete whole.
"Fruit is different to straight sugar" would be true but that's also something that really doesn't need saying!
You could also just as easily get the fructose from a coke or mountain dew... they're all the same.
Wrong.
Read the ingredients and you will see they are different. Because sports drink are formulated specifically for purpose and not just as a refreshing beverage. And different sports drinks have different purposes and dosages.
A mix could be 2:1 ratio of glucose to fructose (though some are glucose only (glucose has faster absorbtion rate) for energy.
Some have electrolytes to replenish what is lost through sweating (although some people prefer to work out their electrolytes separately). I don't need additional electrolytes in winter but do in hot weather.
Some sports drinks will include caffeine (some won't).
I've also used a mix that includes some protein which clearly Coke and Mountain Dew do not.
The whole point I was making is that individual shared ingredients (including specific types of sugar (and even water!) will be identical. That's it. You can't extrapolate to saying two different drinks with different ingredients are "all the same".
What sports drink do you use that has protein in it, or do you mix your own?0 -
Unscientifically, N=1, the sugars in the fruit I eat now are hella lot better than the sugars in the candy, cookies, cakes, pies and ice cream I usedta wolf down daily.
It’s all relative in my world.
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