Paleo: Do I Have to Eat All That Meat?

neandermagnon · August 2013

you can always go out and catch your own meat like palaeolithic people did.

neandermagnon · August 2013

now I've seen everything :noway:

*imagines a tribe of Homo erectuses chasing containers of protein powder across a grassy plain...*

shannashannabobana · August 2013

Paleo is more a way of eating, than a diet. Like going 'clean' (not trying to get into what that means, just saying).

To the OP, eat veggies, fruits, eggs, meats at meals, but if you want to skip meat a meal it won't kill you. The biggest problem is getting enough protein without meat. I do dairy, which is helpful, but you can also get protein from eggs, as mentioned. Legumes aren't really paleo, but it's your life so feel free to add them back if you like. Ditto Dairy (I eat cheese). A lot of people advise you eliminate these things for a month and then add them back to see how it affects you, but that's totally up to you.

If your concern is primarily finances, rather than a dislike for meat, eggs, ground beef, stuff like canned tuna/salmon, tinned sardines, organ meats, chicken thighs...these things can all be very reasonable. Also, a lot of people think you need less meat if you eat some bone broth/gelatine. So really look at the prices on these things and think about the things you like to eat and enjoy!

Eh, when you are eating meats, fruits, veggies your variety is pretty huge. You can be crazy hard core, but I don't think most people eliminate sugar/bread completely, they just see it as a treat.

neandermagnon · August 2013

^^^^ all of this! there's nothing wrong with "going paleo" if you love it and could stick to it for the rest of your life. If you don't like it or can't stick to it forever, then the above advice applies.

CARBLEGEND · August 2013

the way most do paleono is completely incorrect...one f the worst diets ever

Mr_Knight · August 2013

I guess my first question is "which Paleo diet?"

There are many versions of it, not all of which require eating very-low-carb or eating huge amounts of meat.

itsjustdawn · August 2013

Sarcasm?

Mr_Knight · August 2013

It does not exclude root veggies and fruits.

Paleo does not equal "high meat" or "low carb".

StacyReneO · August 2013

The first month or so of Paleo I ate a lot of eggs. I do love meat and could easily eat it at every meal, but it does get expensive when you are buying grass fed meat. Though I have found that I can buy a 1 lb. grass fed flank steak and get 3 meals out of that, 1 lb. of grass fed ground beef, mixed with ground chicken makes a meat sauce that lasts me a week (I eat in in lettuce cups, over spaghetti squash).

whatjesseats · August 2013

Paleo isn't necessarily meat-heavy. Actually I probably eat about the same amount of meat as before--I more or less just replaced grains with more veggies and fats.

Mr_Knight · August 2013

There was a link provided. Quoting from the paper:

"Fruits, roots, legumes, nuts, and other non-cereals provided 65-70% of the average forager subsistence base."

The conception of Paleo being low carb and bags o' meat is pure marketing fluff.

CoachReddy · August 2013

nope.

Acg67 · August 2013

Good thing you read through before replying

CoachReddy · August 2013

It's all good man, we all make mistakes. :flowerforyou:

paleo diets are relatively low carb and the majority of your calories come from fats

Acg67 · August 2013

Try again

Eaton et al. Paleolithic nutrition revisited: A twelve-year retrospective on its nature and implications. European Journal of Clinical Nutrition

http://www.direct-ms.org/pdf/EvolutionPaleolithic/Eaton Paleo Nutri Review EJCN.pdf

CoachReddy · August 2013

hahaha classic redirect to a completely different topic.

Acg67 · August 2013

How is it a different topic, is that not directly pertaining to the paleolithic diet? Also since you're so knowledgeable ont he subject, are you familiar with how Cordain reconstructed the Paleo diet for his book?

Mr_Knight · August 2013

From the paper...

"The typical carbohydrate intake of ancestral humans was similar in magnitude, 45-50% of daily energy, to that in current afluent nations..."

CoachReddy · August 2013

the study is pertaining to differing research into the diets of paleolithic man, and it's far from conclusive. However what the OP is referring to is the general "paleo diet" fad as it is described in numerous books/websites/etc etc etc. THAT diet centers around high fat intake and moderate to low carb intake.

Thus, the redirect to draw attention to yourself. Mission accomplished!

As for Cordain: 'The U.S. News ranking assumed a low-carb version of the paleo diet, specifically containing only 23% carbohydrates.[194] Higher carbohydrate versions of the paleo diet, which allow for significant consumption of root vegetables,[195] were not a part of this ranking.[193] Dr. Loren Cordain, a proponent of a low-carbohydrate Paleolithic diet, responded to the U.S. News ranking, stating that their "conclusions are erroneous and misleading" and pointing out that "five studies, four since 2007, have experimentally tested contemporary versions of ancestral human diets and have found them to be superior to Mediterranean diets, diabetic diets and typical western diets in regard to weight loss, cardiovascular disease risk factors and risk factors for type 2 diabetes."[196][197]'

You can argue all you want about whether cavemen ACTUALLY ate this way or not, and there are valid points on both sides. But as I said before, regarding the OP and her question, your original answer was not helpful nor correct in context.

richardheath · August 2013

The "natural way of eating" involves putting food into your mouth and masticating (just makes sure you swallow). Anything else is personal/cultural preference.

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