Are GMOs Safe?

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  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
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    I think the jury is out on the final answer to your question. Most of the quotes provided in the picture basically say people have been eating GMOs for years (nice lab rats that we are) and we don't see anything bad happening yet -- therefore it must be ok.

    Of course we also need to watch the money because it is interesting where a lot of the funding comes from for these studies which find no problems with GMOs. There is also a terrific amount of money spent trying to prevent the labeling of GMO foods -- labels aren't really needed basically anything with corn or soy or any of their derivatives that isn't organic can be presumed to have one or more ingredient that is a GMO. Label the stuff that is GMO free -- it is a much shorter list. I also think its interesting that all of the reasons given for GMOs necessity (hearty crops, resistant to certain things destructive to crops, easier use of pesticides) really haven't proven to hold true in the long term. Essentially I have not see any confirmed studies which can point to great benefits from the use of GMOs-- except for the money generated by the patent holders.

    I don't want pesticides on my food.

    I don't want growth hormones injected into the foods I eat.

    I don't want someone splicing the genes of food with the genes of bacteria or anything else to make them resistant to anything.

    I don't think we have all the answers yet and I would prefer to hedge all my bets as much as I can as often as I can. The first generation raised on mostly GMOs are just graduating from high school -- lets give it a little more time before we declare the long term effects of consumption safe.

    I don't demand that anyone else refrain from eating GMOs. I don't demand that they cease production. I really don't care what anyone else eats (except for my children) -- I never bring it up. I eat organic foods. If you don't think there is any difference eat whatever you chose to eat. I would never try to convince someone to eat something they didn't want to eat. If all of us organic buying people are just fools who like to waste our money -- what is it to anyone else?

    :drinker:
  • stealthq
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    People have ridiculously simple views of things. "Genetically modified" or "GMO" is treated like it's some industrial process that adds a certain chemical to a crop, or changes it in a specific way.

    GMO is an umbrella term for any of an infinite number of ways to change the genes of an organism.

    What matters is the specific way the organism is altered. A crop that is genetically altered to make it grow a little faster or bigger is probably fine. A crop that is genetically altered so it's full of arsenic is probably not fine.

    QFT.

    What I find funny is that no one rants over all the more traditionally cross-bred foods. As if regular old recombination could never, ever result in something harmful. Wonder how all those toxic plants developed over the years without Monsanto's help.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
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    People have ridiculously simple views of things. "Genetically modified" or "GMO" is treated like it's some industrial process that adds a certain chemical to a crop, or changes it in a specific way.

    GMO is an umbrella term for any of an infinite number of ways to change the genes of an organism.

    What matters is the specific way the organism is altered. A crop that is genetically altered to make it grow a little faster or bigger is probably fine. A crop that is genetically altered so it's full of arsenic is probably not fine.

    QFT.

    What I find funny is that no one rants over all the more traditionally cross-bred foods. As if regular old recombination could never, ever result in something harmful. Wonder how all those toxic plants developed over the years without Monsanto's help.

    such as?

    has hybridization created toxic peas I haven't heard about?
  • Red_Sparrow
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    Worry more about Monsanto.... they are far more dangerous than any GMO on its own!

    Didn't take long for the tinfoil hats to come out

    Actually, I'm going to agree with this. GMOs aren't dangerous, but Monsanto are kind of ****s.
  • CoachReddy
    CoachReddy Posts: 3,949 Member
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    Worry more about Monsanto.... they are far more dangerous than any GMO on its own!

    Didn't take long for the tinfoil hats to come out

    Actually, I'm going to agree with this. GMOs aren't dangerous, but Monsanto are kind of ****s.

    based on what long-term studies?
  • meeper123
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  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    Worry more about Monsanto.... they are far more dangerous than any GMO on its own!

    Didn't take long for the tinfoil hats to come out

    Actually, I'm going to agree with this. GMOs aren't dangerous, but Monsanto are kind of ****s.

    based on what long-term studies?

    This contains links to 600 studies, many conducted over a decade:

    http://gmopundit.blogspot.com/p/450-published-safety-assessments.html#!/p/450-published-safety-assessments.html



    http://rameznaam.com/2013/04/28/the-evidence-on-gmo-safety/
    Contains many good links to sources ^^

    "A Scientific Consensus

    All together, the scientific consensus around the safety of genetically modified foods is as strong as the scientific consensus around climate change. These foods have been studied more than any other, and everything tells us that they’re safe."

    http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10977&page=R6



    A decade of EU funded studies:
    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7hhP5QasNtsX1AwV2YzNnlrZTA/edit?usp=drive_web&pli=1
  • magerum
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  • donnahague58
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    Yes Genetically Modified Organism's are safe. If it wasn't for GMO's we would run out of food. My husband is a third generation farmer and I have asked him about what GMO's are. It's a seed that has been altered with a weed to help it grow and survive in different types of climates. The weeds, such as a mustard seed, is put in the corn seed. That's just an example of what a GMO is. So please don't be afraid of hearing GMO. As for Monsanto, they are just a company that produce's the seeds and they are not the only ones. My husband said he doesn't like or dislike them. Hope this is helpful. :)
  • Mslmesq
    Mslmesq Posts: 1,001 Member
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    Yes Genetically Modified Organism's are safe. If it wasn't for GMO's we would run out of food. My husband is a third generation farmer and I have asked him about what GMO's are. It's a seed that has been altered with a weed to help it grow and survive in different types of climates. The weeds, such as a mustard seed, is put in the corn seed. That's just an example of what a GMO is. So please don't be afraid of hearing GMO. As for Monsanto, they are just a company that produce's the seeds and they are not the only ones. My husband said he doesn't like or dislike them. Hope this is helpful. :)

    Interesting. I take it your husband did not participate in this survey. :wink:

    Monsanto Named 2013's 'Most Evil Corporation' In New Poll

    It's official: Monsanto Company (NYSE:MON) has been deemed the "most evil corporation" of 2013 in a new poll that has the biotech giant beating out rivals like McDonald's and the Federal Reserve by a wide margin.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/monsanto-named-2013s-most-evil-corporation-new-poll-1300217
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    Yes Genetically Modified Organism's are safe. If it wasn't for GMO's we would run out of food. My husband is a third generation farmer and I have asked him about what GMO's are. It's a seed that has been altered with a weed to help it grow and survive in different types of climates. The weeds, such as a mustard seed, is put in the corn seed. That's just an example of what a GMO is. So please don't be afraid of hearing GMO. As for Monsanto, they are just a company that produce's the seeds and they are not the only ones. My husband said he doesn't like or dislike them. Hope this is helpful. :)

    Interesting. I take it your husband did not participate in this survey. :wink:

    Monsanto Named 2013's 'Most Evil Corporation' In New Poll

    It's official: Monsanto Company (NYSE:MON) has been deemed the "most evil corporation" of 2013 in a new poll that has the biotech giant beating out rivals like McDonald's and the Federal Reserve by a wide margin.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/monsanto-named-2013s-most-evil-corporation-new-poll-1300217

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  • kuroi19
    kuroi19 Posts: 45
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    The world is starving. Bigger, more plentiful and less prone to spoil food is probably the way to go, even if it was actually bad for us.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    haha. Great info! Thanks for posting all those links Magerum!

    And also...I could've sworn someone said they weren't going to argue like before...
  • bincorvati
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    What I find remarkable is this: American households now spend less than half of what they spent on food thirty years ago (as a percentage of income) but they spend twice as much on medical care.

    We spend less on food today because processed foods are cheap. We spend less on food today because companies like Monsanto have developed ways to get as much per square inch as possible. We can celebrate progress, or we can ask if it's worth the higher price we pay eventually/

    Autism, Cancer, Autoimmune Disease - the rates continue to rise. Why?

    I'm opting for simple, fresh, organic. I am mindful of what I eat and I look at the preparation of my meals as being the ultimate in self-care. I don't want to lose the freedom to do this, and I fear companies like Monsanto will take over and there will be nothing left for the small farmer to work with.
  • Mslmesq
    Mslmesq Posts: 1,001 Member
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    Yes Genetically Modified Organism's are safe. If it wasn't for GMO's we would run out of food. My husband is a third generation farmer and I have asked him about what GMO's are. It's a seed that has been altered with a weed to help it grow and survive in different types of climates. The weeds, such as a mustard seed, is put in the corn seed. That's just an example of what a GMO is. So please don't be afraid of hearing GMO. As for Monsanto, they are just a company that produce's the seeds and they are not the only ones. My husband said he doesn't like or dislike them. Hope this is helpful. :)

    Interesting. I take it your husband did not participate in this survey. :wink:

    Monsanto Named 2013's 'Most Evil Corporation' In New Poll

    It's official: Monsanto Company (NYSE:MON) has been deemed the "most evil corporation" of 2013 in a new poll that has the biotech giant beating out rivals like McDonald's and the Federal Reserve by a wide margin.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/monsanto-named-2013s-most-evil-corporation-new-poll-1300217

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    I totally see the resemblance. :happy:
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    What I find remarkable is this: American households now spend less than half of what they spent on food thirty years ago (as a percentage of income) but they spend twice as much on medical care.

    We spend less on food today because processed foods are cheap. We spend less on food today because companies like Monsanto have developed ways to get as much per square inch as possible. We can celebrate progress, or we can ask if it's worth the higher price we pay eventually/

    Autism, Cancer, Autoimmune Disease - the rates continue to rise. Why?

    I'm opting for simple, fresh, organic. I am mindful of what I eat and I look at the preparation of my meals as being the ultimate in self-care. I don't want to lose the freedom to do this, and I fear companies like Monsanto will take over and there will be nothing left for the small farmer to work with.

    Correlation =/= causation otherwise here's to your organics:

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  • liquidleaves
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    Obviously GMOs are NOT safe. All of Europe and other countries ban the use of genetically modified seeds. And the United States has more obese people than any other place in the world. Why do you think that is? There is something to these seeds that grow our food.. Oh and btw we would NOT run out of food ...you can buy ORGANIC seeds not treated with pesticides or infiltrated with some genetic material. Honestly, who can believe that those seeds are safe?? That is why many people have genetic disorders and our DNA is being messed with. We need to stand together against the EVIL corporations of this world such as Monsanto that controls all of these seeds and get them OUT!!!!!!!
  • Mslmesq
    Mslmesq Posts: 1,001 Member
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    Obviously GMOs are NOT safe. All of Europe and other countries ban the use of genetically modified seeds. And the United States has more obese people than any other place in the world. Why do you think that is? There is something to these seeds that grow our food.. Oh and btw we would NOT run out of food ...you can buy ORGANIC seeds not treated with pesticides or infiltrated with some genetic material. Honestly, who can believe that those seeds are safe?? That is why many people have genetic disorders and our DNA is being messed with. We need to stand together against the EVIL corporations of this world such as Monsanto that controls all of these seeds and get them OUT!!!!!!!

    See, told you. Monsanto is voted most evil corp in america. :tongue:
  • donnahague58
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    My husband and his brother are small farmers. I guess I'm just taking up for the farmers. Trust me, I'm not taking up for Monsanto. :)
  • CyberEd312
    CyberEd312 Posts: 3,536 Member
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    Obviously GMOs are NOT safe. All of Europe and other countries ban the use of genetically modified seeds. And the United States has more obese people than any other place in the world. Why do you think that is? There is something to these seeds that grow our food.. Oh and btw we would NOT run out of food ...you can buy ORGANIC seeds not treated with pesticides or infiltrated with some genetic material. Honestly, who can believe that those seeds are safe?? That is why many people have genetic disorders and our DNA is being messed with. We need to stand together against the EVIL corporations of this world such as Monsanto that controls all of these seeds and get them OUT!!!!!!!

    Didn't you hear that the US isn't the number one fattest country anymore, that title goes to Mexico..... and people are obese in this country because we as a nation got lazy and consume way to much food....