Is 700 net calories ok if your overweight / obese?

lukejamesmacca

Hello I have just started with this app

I have gained 25kg in 4 months and now I am 115kg.

I have started going gym for about 2 hours everyday.

The weird part is I have high cardio fitness and I am doing about 1 hour plus of cardio normally getting my heart rate up to 160-170.

I'm also training on weights my upper body strength is very weak.

I think I gained the weight so quickly after extreme fasting on and off for 5 days at a time.

Today I filled out my dairy and it said net calories were only going to be 700 and something.

I excluded weights from my dairy since it's not recorded.

My question is for someone as fat as I am but paradoxically having good cardio fitness is having net calories in the 700s so bad?

Will it cause issues with my weight training?

I'm not worried about lack of vitamins or anything because I eat pretty vitamin rich food in my new diet.

Retroguy2000

To clarify, what do you mean when you say "net calories"? As I understand it, net calories is the additional energy burned in a workout, i.e. not including your RMR.

You can add the strength training in MFP. Under Cardio, search for Strength Training. That's a reasonable estimate. Personally, I edit it to slightly lower to be conservative. Note that whatever number your equipment estimated for your cardio could be well off from the actual amount.

Are you not doing weights for legs?

You'll get some benefits I'm sure from the weight training, but it's usually recommended to do weights in a separate session from the cardio.

IAmTheGlue

Can I ask what is your gross calories? Not subtracting your exercise calories from the amount of food. How many calories are you are at there, just total amount consumed?

How tall are you?

Are you logging your food by gram? Weighing out portions by gram?

I’m glad you are here! This absolutely works! You can do it! 💪

spiriteagle99

Cutting your calories that low can impact your health, cause you to lose hair and muscle mass, possibly affecting your heart. Besides, it isn't sustainable for very long. People who restrict their diet too much usually end up binging and quickly regaining any weight they lost. If you want to lose weight and keep it off, you would have a better chance of success if you eat as close to your net calorie goal as you can. Eat back all or most of your exercise calories. You'll feel better, you'll perform better, and you're more likely to be able to keep it up long enough to reach your weight loss goals.

lukejamesmacca

IAmTheGlue wrote: »

Can I ask what is your gross calories? Not subtracting your exercise calories from the amount of food. How many calories are you are at there, just total amount consumed?

How tall are you?

Are you logging your food by gram? Weighing out portions by gram?

I’m glad you are here! This absolutely works! You can do it! 💪

Yes I'm logging amounts, grams and even correcting about with barcode scanner.

I'm 183cms and 115kgs.

My net calories are 1370

spiriteagle99 wrote: »

Cutting your calories that low can impact your health, cause you to lose hair and muscle mass, possibly affecting your heart. Besides, it isn't sustainable for very long. People who restrict their diet too much usually end up binging and quickly regaining any weight they lost. If you want to lose weight and keep it off, you would have a better chance of success if you eat as close to your net calorie goal as you can. Eat back all or most of your exercise calories. You'll feel better, you'll perform better, and you're more likely to be able to keep it up long enough to reach your weight loss goals.

Hair and nails won't be a problem my hair is so thick even at 30 I struggle to get a good haircut and my nails grow to fast, before I was doing 5 day water fasts and that lead to my gaining all this fat after I had before over a year with my mother controlling my portions lost 35kg.

The weight issue really began some years back when I stopped taking dextroamphetamine for adhd ( which I abused lol ) at the time I was only a bit chubby.

I have real problem with endless binge eating I love idle eating for entertainment however since I've been gyming so hard I have actually had a greatly reduced appetite.

Honestly I'm even confused about my body I've had organ function tests done regularly and they have all been fine but when I was 125kg my blood sugar was in normal range but bad normal.

I have always had high alkaline phosphatase (ALP) levels in my liver but years ago doctors co concluded it could be normal and I've had no issues.

I have regular ECGs done because of medication I was on which came back fine.

My mother, grandmother and me all have lower blood pressure at resting but not to any problem level.

I think stamina despite being obese might be because I've spent last 6 months in places of the world that are mountains and pretty much all your walking is huge sets of stairs. My body build looks like a T-Rex 🦖 it looks aesthetically awful.

paperpudding

How are you getting a figure of net calories 1370??

You are a man,I assume ( my apologies if you are a 6ft tall woman)

I was a 164cm tall woman with a starting weight of 73 kg and almost certainly older than you - I had net calories of 1460.

Put your stats into MFP and eat to that amount. Net calories. Ie eat back at least some exercise calories.

yirara

You answered your own question: You think you gained weight by doing ridiculous fasts. And here you're asking whether undereating in a ridiculous way is good. Think about it.

Also something to keep in mind: your body can only use so much bodyfat as energy in a day. Eating too little might make you lose weight faster, but it won't be fat but muscle. So then you lost those measly 25kg and look flabby and unhealthy.

ninerbuff

You're on a road of extreme dieting to lose and it's not going to be healthy. If you're using MFP, then stick to the formula you're given to lose 2lbs of weight. Having done this with clients for years, I can verify that what you're doing ISN'T going to last a long time without some sort of consequence to your body.

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cmriverside

yirara wrote: »

You answered your own question: You think you gained weight by doing ridiculous fasts. And here you're asking whether undereating in a ridiculous way is good. Think about it.

Also something to keep in mind: your body can only use so much bodyfat as energy in a day. Eating too little might make you lose weight faster, but it won't be fat but muscle. So then you lost those measly 25kg and look flabby and unhealthy.

Thanks for posting what I was going to say.

I agree with everyone else, though.

Original poster: set your goals, add the exercise calories and eat a whole lot more than 1300.

Here's the official explanation, but this is probably THE most asked and misunderstood question on these forums.
https://support.myfitnesspal.com/hc/en-us/articles/360032625391-How-does-MyFitnessPal-calculate-my-initial-goals-