Multivitamins and weight loss: Any connection between the two?
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neanderthin wrote: »Yeah Ann, I like Layne's hierarchy for weight loss, but I suspect the longest lived people on the planet wouldn't know what most of that means or be interested imo. Cheers
OP's question was literally about multivitamins and weight loss.
Longevity is cool, too, though.
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While it doesn't hurt to take a mulit vitamin, it's NOT the cause of weight loss. It's all about calories in and calories out.
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neanderthin wrote: »Yeah Ann, I like Layne's hierarchy for weight loss, but I suspect the longest lived people on the planet wouldn't know what most of that means or be interested imo. Cheers
Excuse me but I'm confused. What does "the longest lived people on the planet" have to do with the OP? This comment comes way out of left field, unless you'd care to explain its correlation. Sometimes your posts just leave me shaking my head. Could be me though. Maybe I just have difficulty with a higher intellect than mine. Supplements are the discussion.3 -
Yeah Ann I like Laine's hierarchysnowflake954 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »Yeah Ann, I like Layne's hierarchy for weight loss, but I suspect the longest lived people on the planet wouldn't know what most of that means or be interested imo. Cheers
Excuse me but I'm confused. What does "the longest lived people on the planet" have to do with the OP? This comment comes way out of left field, unless you'd care to explain its correlation. Sometimes your posts just leave me shaking my head. Could be me though. Maybe I just have difficulty with a higher intellect than mine. Supplements are the discussion.
Doesn't have anything to do with the OP, it had to do with Ann's pyramid for weight loss.0 -
neanderthin wrote: »Yeah Ann I like Laine's hierarchysnowflake954 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »Yeah Ann, I like Layne's hierarchy for weight loss, but I suspect the longest lived people on the planet wouldn't know what most of that means or be interested imo. Cheers
Excuse me but I'm confused. What does "the longest lived people on the planet" have to do with the OP? This comment comes way out of left field, unless you'd care to explain its correlation. Sometimes your posts just leave me shaking my head. Could be me though. Maybe I just have difficulty with a higher intellect than mine. Supplements are the discussion.
Doesn't have anything to do with the OP, it had to do with Ann's pyramid for weight loss.
How? Nothing on the pyramid mentions longevity. Please try and be clear.1 -
snowflake954 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »Yeah Ann I like Laine's hierarchysnowflake954 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »Yeah Ann, I like Layne's hierarchy for weight loss, but I suspect the longest lived people on the planet wouldn't know what most of that means or be interested imo. Cheers
Excuse me but I'm confused. What does "the longest lived people on the planet" have to do with the OP? This comment comes way out of left field, unless you'd care to explain its correlation. Sometimes your posts just leave me shaking my head. Could be me though. Maybe I just have difficulty with a higher intellect than mine. Supplements are the discussion.
Doesn't have anything to do with the OP, it had to do with Ann's pyramid for weight loss.
How?snowflake954 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »Yeah Ann I like Laine's hierarchysnowflake954 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »Yeah Ann, I like Layne's hierarchy for weight loss, but I suspect the longest lived people on the planet wouldn't know what most of that means or be interested imo. Cheers
Excuse me but I'm confused. What does "the longest lived people on the planet" have to do with the OP? This comment comes way out of left field, unless you'd care to explain its correlation. Sometimes your posts just leave me shaking my head. Could be me though. Maybe I just have difficulty with a higher intellect than mine. Supplements are the discussion.
Doesn't have anything to do with the OP, it had to do with Ann's pyramid for weight loss.
How?
The pyramid would demand that people understand nutrition to a higher level than the norm. There's quite a few people on this planet, the vast majority I would presume that maintain and lose weight without any knowledge of nutrition. I guessing Ann needed to let me know that for weight loss there is a hierarchy after I mentioned that multivitamins don't create weight loss, but may help optimally. While I appreciate Ann's insight and yours btw, weight loss can happen outside of understanding anything about nutrition. It was a little cryptic I will admit. Cheers
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This response is to address your edited post.
As far as "nothing on the pyramid mentions longevity" I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that weight lose in the context of health and not just vanity translates into living longer.0 -
neanderthin wrote: »snowflake954 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »Yeah Ann I like Laine's hierarchysnowflake954 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »Yeah Ann, I like Layne's hierarchy for weight loss, but I suspect the longest lived people on the planet wouldn't know what most of that means or be interested imo. Cheers
Excuse me but I'm confused. What does "the longest lived people on the planet" have to do with the OP? This comment comes way out of left field, unless you'd care to explain its correlation. Sometimes your posts just leave me shaking my head. Could be me though. Maybe I just have difficulty with a higher intellect than mine. Supplements are the discussion.
Doesn't have anything to do with the OP, it had to do with Ann's pyramid for weight loss.
How?snowflake954 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »Yeah Ann I like Laine's hierarchysnowflake954 wrote: »neanderthin wrote: »Yeah Ann, I like Layne's hierarchy for weight loss, but I suspect the longest lived people on the planet wouldn't know what most of that means or be interested imo. Cheers
Excuse me but I'm confused. What does "the longest lived people on the planet" have to do with the OP? This comment comes way out of left field, unless you'd care to explain its correlation. Sometimes your posts just leave me shaking my head. Could be me though. Maybe I just have difficulty with a higher intellect than mine. Supplements are the discussion.
Doesn't have anything to do with the OP, it had to do with Ann's pyramid for weight loss.
How?
The pyramid would demand that people understand nutrition to a higher level than the norm. There's quite a few people on this planet, the vast majority I would presume that maintain and lose weight without any knowledge of nutrition. I guessing Ann needed to let me know that for weight loss there is a hierarchy after I mentioned that multivitamins don't create weight loss. While I appreciate Ann's insight and yours btw, weight loss can happen outside of understanding anything about nutrition. It was a little cryptic I will admit. Cheers
The point of posting the pyramid was to encourage the OP to think a little more deeply about multivitamins and weight loss in a larger context . . . to "understand nutrition to a higher level than the norm", to use your words. The "multivitamins improve weight loss" idea, taken alone, is simplistic. Sure, multivitamins can be useful. But keep it in perspective, maybe?
We often see folks around here focus energy and attention on peripheral issues, minor contributors to weight management (hacks, "one weird trick", etc.) . . . at the expense of focus on the most influential aspects. Some people call that "majoring in the minors". They're not bad things to do, but may be a distraction.
For example, if someone cuts calories aggressively far, but takes that multivitamin thinking it will keep their energy level up, they're probably shooting themselves in the foot.
I know I probably talk way too much around here, but honest to cr*p, in my own pathetic way, I'm sincerely trying to help the OPs with the topics they've introduced, not make some grandiose point about the larger world for my own gratification. When I got here to MFP, some of the old hands of the time were very helpful to me, in my attempts to understand a little more.6 -
neanderthin wrote: »This response is to address your edited post.
As far as "nothing on the pyramid mentions longevity" I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that weight lose in the context of health and not just vanity translates into living longer.
Well,---really? That's a no-brainer. I was wondering if that was your vague tie-in.
I live in Italy. People here lose and maintain without thinking about it, and my husband is a prime example. Understanding nutrition to a "higher level than the norm" is not necessary, and the pyramid seems pretty straight forward to me. You don't have to be an intellectual to read it, unless, of course, you know some secret that you've come across in your studies.
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Nope no secrets, I'm still figuring out the 92 USDA pyramid after researching it for 20 years.0
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