Too full to achieve my protein intake!

lnagrsia

So as I posted in another discussion I am macro counting today, I did great yesterday got over my protein intake even though I couldnt eat all my lunch and wasn't left going to bed hungry. Today however, I have only had my protein shake that I take every morning after my workout and a banana and I am too stuffed to eat my lunch, so I'm not gonna get my protein today, I know protein can be filling but is it normal for an increased protein intake to leave you unable to eat for the whole day because your soo full.

cwolfman13

Honestly I don't know anyone who would be stuffed after a protein shake and a banana...so I'd say that's not normal. I'd be gnawing my arm off.

nossmf

Is it normal for excessive amounts of protein to negate your appetite? Absolutely. I once polished off a 72-oz steak on a dare and had zero interest in food for 3 days after. I routinely load up my plate with extra protein on Thanksgiving/Christmas to lessen my desire for the high-calorie carb-loaded sides.

What qualifies as "excessive" will vary by individual. A single protein shake and a banana, as pointed out by @cwolfman13, is not likely the cause of your change in appetite. More likely you're experiencing the after-effects of yesterday's consumption of more protein than you're accustomed to eating. Jumping feet-first into huge changes in diet can sometimes leave the body reeling until it adjusts, sometimes days, sometimes a week or two later. Making more gradual changes, such as increasing your protein by 10-20g per day for a week, then increasing still more the second week, allow the body time to adapt.

I_AM_ISRAEL

Been eating 300g of protein everyday for the last couple weeks.
Split meals up to where you’re basically eating every 2-3 hours.
Yes your stomach will probably expand a little, so make sure you are exercising accordingly.
I drink 2 gallons of water a day (which may be helping 🤷🏽‍♂️)
I also consume a ton of supplements everyday for liver, bile production, kidney; heart, and muscle endurance.

nossmf

Is your nickname "Topper?"

AnnPT77

Protein doesn't do that to me, because - sadly - I still have obese Ann's capacity to eat, even 7 years on. But I suspect it could be that way for others. The advice to increase protein gradually is good. You could also try spreading out your protein a bit more through the day, rather than going for a big slug of it first thing.

Mostly, though, I'm in to say this: Believe it or not, adequate calorie intake is even more fundamental to strength/muscle gain than protein. Yes, it won't happen optimally without adequate protein . . . but you can be getting enough protein, and it still won't happen optimally if in a deep calorie deficit.

For best results, try to find a way to work yourself up to adequate calories and adequate protein, in addition to your good, progressive strength training program faithfully performed.

21Starship

I've heard to either have animal or plant protein at every meal. I have a hard time with being full in the AM hours. I ate a boiled egg, and cottage cheese, and a piece of fruit. And it was much better today, I know having healthy fats like butter, extra virgin olive oil, or maybe avocado oil is important for your body as well. Maybe that also helps with satiety and your cells in your body. If you eat enough protein, you should't have that 3pm slump that sometimes happens in the afternoon as well.

nossmf

On a related note, eating lots of protein at extra-large meals (e.g. Thanksgiving) helps offset post-meal drowsiness. Yes, even turkey. The tryptophan inside is only half of the stereotypical "food coma;" the chemical requires large amounts of carbs to activate, such as lots of bread or pie. Skew the ratio away from carbs and more towards protein, and you're likely to be the most alert person in the room. I've personally experienced this, including during graveyard work shifts, so I know it works for me. Note I said more protein, less carbs; I did not say "no carbs." I still enjoy every item in the large meal menu, I just portion control some over others.

HoneyBadger302

A lower carb ratio diet (not keto, but low carb) with higher protein and fats definitely leaves me feeling a LOT more satiated than any other diet I have tried over the years. Unfortunately not the cheapest way to eat, but it does work for me. Barring odd days, I will generally struggle to eat my full day's worth of calories once I've adjusted to such a diet.

I actually just recently have been in a position to get back to eating low carb, and up until the past two days when I've been sick, staying in my calorie limit was no problem. Right now I have a "outdoors in the cold weather all day when I'm not used to it" induced sinus infection I'm fighting off, so have been more hungry than normal, but I would guess that is why. Even so we're talking going over my calorie goal by ~350 calories, not something that is going to be outrageous.

sollyn23l2

nossmf wrote: »

On a related note, eating lots of protein at extra-large meals (e.g. Thanksgiving) helps offset post-meal drowsiness. Yes, even turkey. The tryptophan inside is only half of the stereotypical "food coma;" the chemical requires large amounts of carbs to activate, such as lots of bread or pie. Skew the ratio away from carbs and more towards protein, and you're likely to be the most alert person in the room. I've personally experienced this, including during graveyard work shifts, so I know it works for me. Note I said more protein, less carbs; I did not say "no carbs." I still enjoy every item in the large meal menu, I just portion control some over others.

Almost none of this is true. Don't know where you got it from. Protein will not offset afternoon drowsiness unless you are anemic. Carbs absolutely do not activate tryptophan. Quite the opposite.

zebasschick

lnagrsia wrote: »

So as I posted in another discussion I am macro counting today, I did great yesterday got over my protein intake even though I couldnt eat all my lunch and wasn't left going to bed hungry. Today however, I have only had my protein shake that I take every morning after my workout and a banana and I am too stuffed to eat my lunch, so I'm not gonna get my protein today, I know protein can be filling but is it normal for an increased protein intake to leave you unable to eat for the whole day because your soo full.

what is in your protein shake? do you know how many calories it is, how much protein, fat and carbs? does it include sugar? how many servings total is one of your protein shakes?

for that matter, do you mix your own protein shakes, and if so, what's in them?

neanderthin

sollyn23l2 wrote: »

nossmf wrote: »

On a related note, eating lots of protein at extra-large meals (e.g. Thanksgiving) helps offset post-meal drowsiness. Yes, even turkey. The tryptophan inside is only half of the stereotypical "food coma;" the chemical requires large amounts of carbs to activate, such as lots of bread or pie. Skew the ratio away from carbs and more towards protein, and you're likely to be the most alert person in the room. I've personally experienced this, including during graveyard work shifts, so I know it works for me. Note I said more protein, less carbs; I did not say "no carbs." I still enjoy every item in the large meal menu, I just portion control some over others.

Almost none of this is true. Don't know where you got it from. Protein will not offset afternoon drowsiness unless you are anemic. Carbs absolutely do not activate tryptophan. Quite the opposite.

Yeah, there's lots of mistruths happening with turkey and tryptophan and it's actually an amino acid. Most of the drowsiness is generally from the larger than normal calorie intake for thanksgiving for example and most of that calorie content are carbohydrates which activate insulin and with the glycemic load of this particular meal, it's generally a pretty decent insulin response and considering most people have, whether they know it or not, some level of insulin resistance, it's removing those sugars below base line that makes people drowsy, basically somewhat hyperglycemic. Also there's just as much tryptophan in chicken, pork, fish, cheese etc. Tryptophan is also a precursor for serotonin which crosses the blood brain barrier and is then further converted into melatonin which can make us sleepy. Basically it's from a lot of carbs and melatonin, but mostly carbs. imo. Cheers

neanderthin

Protein tends to fall within a fairly narrow consumption window regardless of the diet or intervention, and that consumption is in and around 20-22% of total calories, why is a little unknown but in studies it seems to be true. Carbs and fat can be manipulated up or down so whether someone is low carb or low fat, weight loss is similar, so it's important that a person finds a diet they enjoy and without too much effort, one they find sustainable, which are repeatable. And personally if people just ate more whole foods, ate more vegetables, reduced refined carbohydrates and reduced their sugar consumption even to a small degree while trying to lose weight can improve satiety giving a person a leg up, generally. imo