Paleo

MeredithChinn

Looking for guidance on macro % for Paleo. It’s my understanding that it is: 50% carb 25% protein and 25% fat fie each meal. Is this correct?

Thank you!
Meredith

neanderthin

Most versions try to emulate the paleolithic era before grain cultivation and the domestication of animals, basically back when we had stone tools. Most proponents of the diet would say your carbs are too high. Whether they are are not would be influenced based on the latitudinal geography of the group your trying to emulate.....and it goes on and on. A typical macro split would be 30/30/40 carbs, protein and fat. Why did you specifically pick this type of diet, if you don't mind me asking?

cmriverside

Yeah, 30/30/40Fat seems a good split.

kshama2001

https://thepaleodiet.com/forget-the-macronutrient-ratios-you-are-what-you-were-designed-to-eat

"... I am certain that when offered a mango, no hunter-gatherer ever muttered the words “No thanks, I’m watching my carb intake.”"

"...In their 2009 review of plant-animal subsistence ratios of hunter-gatherer societies, Dr. Cordain and his team were quick to point out that the plant-animal ratio varied greatly.5 Societies living close to the equator could get more than 55% of their calories from plant sources, while more polar societies (such as Eskimos) derived almost all of their calories from animal sources.

As a result, the macronutrient ratios could be vastly different. Hunter-gatherer societies ate anywhere between 22-40 percent of their diet from carbohydrates, 19-35 percent from protein, and 28-58 percent from fat.

neanderthin

This is a decent paper on the subject. Lead author Loren Cordian.

https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/71/3/682/4729121[/url

Most (73%) of the worldwide hunter-gatherer societies derived >50% (≥56–65% of energy) of their subsistence from animal foods, whereas only 14% of these societies derived >50% (≥56–65% of energy) of their subsistence from gathered plant foods. This high reliance on animal-based foods coupled with the relatively low carbohydrate content of wild plant foods produces universally characteristic macronutrient consumption ratios in which protein is elevated (19–35% of energy) at the expense of carbohydrates (22–40% of energy).

sollyn23l2

neanderthin wrote: »

This is a decent paper on the subject. Lead author Loren Cordian.

https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/71/3/682/4729121[/url

Most (73%) of the worldwide hunter-gatherer societies derived >50% (≥56–65% of energy) of their subsistence from animal foods, whereas only 14% of these societies derived >50% (≥56–65% of energy) of their subsistence from gathered plant foods. This high reliance on animal-based foods coupled with the relatively low carbohydrate content of wild plant foods produces universally characteristic macronutrient consumption ratios in which protein is elevated (19–35% of energy) at the expense of carbohydrates (22–40% of energy).

I'd love to see the actual article instead of just the abstract. I'm curious how they determined what they imagine these hunter gatherer societies were eating. Diets definitely differed drastically depending on where they were located. Most anthropologists say it's almost impossible to really determine what they were eating. And, for the most part, the answer is "whatever they could."

neanderthin

sollyn23l2 wrote: »

neanderthin wrote: »

This is a decent paper on the subject. Lead author Loren Cordian.

https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/71/3/682/4729121[/url

Most (73%) of the worldwide hunter-gatherer societies derived >50% (≥56–65% of energy) of their subsistence from animal foods, whereas only 14% of these societies derived >50% (≥56–65% of energy) of their subsistence from gathered plant foods. This high reliance on animal-based foods coupled with the relatively low carbohydrate content of wild plant foods produces universally characteristic macronutrient consumption ratios in which protein is elevated (19–35% of energy) at the expense of carbohydrates (22–40% of energy).

I'd love to see the actual article instead of just the abstract. I'm curious how they determined what they imagine these hunter gatherer societies were eating. Diets definitely differed drastically depending on where they were located. Most anthropologists say it's almost impossible to really determine what they were eating. And, for the most part, the answer is "whatever they could."

The study is in the link. Cheers

sollyn23l2

neanderthin wrote: »

sollyn23l2 wrote: »

neanderthin wrote: »

This is a decent paper on the subject. Lead author Loren Cordian.

https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/71/3/682/4729121[/url

Most (73%) of the worldwide hunter-gatherer societies derived >50% (≥56–65% of energy) of their subsistence from animal foods, whereas only 14% of these societies derived >50% (≥56–65% of energy) of their subsistence from gathered plant foods. This high reliance on animal-based foods coupled with the relatively low carbohydrate content of wild plant foods produces universally characteristic macronutrient consumption ratios in which protein is elevated (19–35% of energy) at the expense of carbohydrates (22–40% of energy).

I'd love to see the actual article instead of just the abstract. I'm curious how they determined what they imagine these hunter gatherer societies were eating. Diets definitely differed drastically depending on where they were located. Most anthropologists say it's almost impossible to really determine what they were eating. And, for the most part, the answer is "whatever they could."

The study is in the link. Cheers

Thanks, found the link in the abstract it links to.

neanderthin

sollyn23l2 wrote: »

neanderthin wrote: »

sollyn23l2 wrote: »

neanderthin wrote: »

This is a decent paper on the subject. Lead author Loren Cordian.

https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/71/3/682/4729121[/url

Most (73%) of the worldwide hunter-gatherer societies derived >50% (≥56–65% of energy) of their subsistence from animal foods, whereas only 14% of these societies derived >50% (≥56–65% of energy) of their subsistence from gathered plant foods. This high reliance on animal-based foods coupled with the relatively low carbohydrate content of wild plant foods produces universally characteristic macronutrient consumption ratios in which protein is elevated (19–35% of energy) at the expense of carbohydrates (22–40% of energy).

I'd love to see the actual article instead of just the abstract. I'm curious how they determined what they imagine these hunter gatherer societies were eating. Diets definitely differed drastically depending on where they were located. Most anthropologists say it's almost impossible to really determine what they were eating. And, for the most part, the answer is "whatever they could."

The study is in the link. Cheers

Thanks, found the link in the abstract it links to.

Your correct though, most paleoanthropologists agree that H-G societies "ate whatever they could" and it's referred to as the "optimal foraging theory". It takes energy and time to collect food (calories). A life and death situation.