Eating carbs are good?

rsuarez94
rsuarez94 Posts: 3 Member
edited May 2023 in Getting Started
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Eating carbs are good? 18 votes

yes
83% 15 votes
no
16% 3 votes

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,978 Member
    Why wouldn't it be? It's the OVERCONSUMPTION of calories in total that get people overweight.

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  • nsk1951
    nsk1951 Posts: 1,304 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Why wouldn't it be? It's the OVERCONSUMPTION of calories in total that get people overweight.

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    ALL TRUE .. yet, it's also true that it's the overconsumption of carbs that causes insulin resistance and diabetes. Also to what people helplessly refer to 'food addictions' when they cannot stop eating their trigger foods. I've never heard someone having steak as their trigger to eat mindlessly, but I know plenty of folks (including myself) that abuse themselves with overconsumption of carbs that are loaded with flours or sugars ..

    That said ... Carbs are a necessary and nutrient-rich source of energy that I enjoy every day ... and I try to limit those that are my triggers for indulgence as best I can.
  • Corina1143
    Corina1143 Posts: 3,620 Member
    Carbs covers such a wide territory. Sort of like exercise is good. Breathing is a form of exercise and usually thought of as good. Running for your life from a lion maybe not so much.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,178 Member
    I understand that eating carbs is bad for some people (because it spikes their appetite), because they say so and I have no reason to disbelieve them. I also understand that some people have to manage carbs because of some health condition (such as diabetes or insulin resistance), though that doesn't necessarily make eating any carbs "bad" even for them.

    I don't actively manage my carb intake, just have protein and fats minimums I strive to hit, and as long as calories work out OK, I don't care where my carb intake ends up. Most of the carbs I eat come from beans, fruit, oatmeal, nonfat Greek yogurt, skim milk, veggies, and that sort of thing. Some are flours and added sugars, but a small fraction of my typical day. I try to eat 800 grams or more of veggies and fruits daily, usually succeed. They have a lot of carbs!

    Usually I eat around 50% of calories from carbs, in maintenance 225 grams plus most days. They don't spike my appetite, my blood sugar values are fine, I didn't need to cut carbs to a low level in order to lose or maintain weight, and I find my carb sources tasty, filling and nutritious.

    So, yes, carbs are good for me to eat.

    Are they good for you to eat? You can decide.
  • springlering62
    springlering62 Posts: 8,415 Member
    sollyn23l2 wrote: »
    nsk1951 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Why wouldn't it be? It's the OVERCONSUMPTION of calories in total that get people overweight.

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    ALL TRUE .. yet, it's also true that it's the overconsumption of carbs that causes insulin resistance and diabetes. Also to what people helplessly refer to 'food addictions' when they cannot stop eating their trigger foods. I've never heard someone having steak as their trigger to eat mindlessly, but I know plenty of folks (including myself) that abuse themselves with overconsumption of carbs that are loaded with flours or sugars ..

    That said ... Carbs are a necessary and nutrient-rich source of energy that I enjoy every day ... and I try to limit those that are my triggers for indulgence as best I can.

    Now you have heard of someone triggered by steak. Give me a ribeye steak and I will eat a pound plus in a sitting. And still chew on the bone afterward.

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  • robertw486
    robertw486 Posts: 2,399 Member
    sollyn23l2 wrote: »

    Now you have heard of someone triggered by steak. Give me a ribeye steak and I will eat a pound plus in a sitting. And still chew on the bone afterward.


    springlering62 wrote: »

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    Ladies, ladies! MFP makes every attempt to remain a family friendly forum. Such flirtatious comments might be better suited to Chit Chat. ;)

    I can overeat just about anything from time to time. And lately it's been way too many triggers, but the steak sure sounds worth being triggered. Even more so lately, we've been trying to cut back on beef due to the sustainability issues. The carb and/or fat heavy foods are everywhere, and I think that's why it's so easy to overeat them for some.

  • sollyn23l2
    sollyn23l2 Posts: 1,755 Member
    @springlering62 yes, of course you can. I'd be offended if you didn't.

    @robertw486 agreed.
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,279 Member
    This just doesn't seem a yes or no poll question to me.

    Almost everybody eats some carbs, even those on keto or low carb diets.

    How much, which carbs, etc - but can't answer with yes or no.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,209 Member
    edited May 2023
    Try gaining weight by just eating steak, yeah, almost impossible. Got my hands of a dry aged 1kg choice grade steak, and that's going on the outdoor grill tonight. Maybe I'll add some carbs too. Cheers
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,978 Member
    nsk1951 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Why wouldn't it be? It's the OVERCONSUMPTION of calories in total that get people overweight.

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    ALL TRUE .. yet, it's also true that it's the overconsumption of carbs that causes insulin resistance and diabetes.
    Well not the "cause" but is strongly associated with TD2. Genetics and obesity are the bigger factors.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6366262/

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  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,209 Member
    sollyn23l2 wrote: »
    neanderthin wrote: »
    Try gaining weight by just eating steak, yeah, almost impossible. Got my hands of a dry aged 1kg choice grade steak, and that's going on the outdoor grill tonight. Maybe I'll add some carbs too. Cheers

    I did. Gained 15 pounds doing it. But then, my momma didn't raise no quitter... so maybe I'm a unicorn.

    You only ate steak and nothing else? It's possible, I'd imagine, but the odds are in unicorn territory for sure. Cheers
  • fatty2begone
    fatty2begone Posts: 249 Member
    Steak! MMMM drooling at the mouth meme needed.
  • fatty2begone
    fatty2begone Posts: 249 Member
    edited May 2023
    [quote="neanderthin;c-47467366"]Try gaining weight by just eating steak, yeah, almost impossible. Got my hands of a dry aged 1kg choice grade steak, and that's going on the outdoor grill tonight. Maybe I'll add some carbs too. Cheers[/quote]

    That is a challenge I think I must try. (just currious if a stool softener is classified as "other" food group in this challenge) ;)
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,209 Member
    edited May 2023
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    nsk1951 wrote: »
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    Why wouldn't it be? It's the OVERCONSUMPTION of calories in total that get people overweight.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
    9285851.png


    ALL TRUE .. yet, it's also true that it's the overconsumption of carbs that causes insulin resistance and diabetes.
    Well not the "cause" but is strongly associated with TD2. Genetics and obesity are the bigger factors.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6366262/

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
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    If people overconsume carbs in the form of processed carbs the pancreas pumps out a lot of insulin in a quicker time interval and if a person has been eating this way most of their lives, like most Americans as an example, Canada and GB is right there as well, then what we have going on is what's called hyperinsulinemia which is the precursor to insulin resistance and diabetes.

    In other words, the constant high output asked by our beta cells to tackle high blood sugar takes it toll and eventually blood sugar rises slowly over time. By the time someone is diagnosed with insulin resistance or diabetes this hyperinsulinemia has been going on for years. They use to call it "adult onset diabetes" because diabetes basically only ever happened as you got older, but that was a different era. Probably getting children tested with a c-peptide test for hyperinsulinemia from their PCP would be imo a good preventative measure.

    Is it the cause of diabetes, well, if it also created an environment where gaining weight was evident to a high proportion or percentage of those people and considering people consume around 70% of their calories from processed and ultra processed food and with about 75% of the population overweight and obese there certainly is a correlation and it looks like that 900 lb gorilla in the room correlation imo.

    this is from your link.

    There are evidence to suggest that excess carbohydrate is linked to both the susceptibility to T2D and also to poor control of diabetes and proneness to complications of diabetes, particularly in Asian populations. However, more
    than the quantity of carbohydrates, it is the quality of carbohydrates which is important.


  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,209 Member
    edited May 2023
    fatty2begone wrote: »
    [quote="neanderthin;c-47467366"]Try gaining weight by just eating steak, yeah, almost impossible. Got my hands of a dry aged 1kg choice grade steak, and that's going on the outdoor grill tonight. Maybe I'll add some carbs too. Cheers

    That is a challenge I think I must try. (just currious if a stool softener is classified as "other" food group in this challenge) ;) [/quote]

    Haha, yeah maybe. The opposite happens in the carnivore community actually but clears up rather quickly. It happens when you drastically deviate from a persons standard way of eating quite a bit of the time until the gut become better equipped to deal with the change. Anyway, I tried the carnivore diet 2 years ago for 60 days as an experiment and while I didn't have any gut issues I lost around 10lb and I was actually trying to keep my weight stable as part of that experiment, and didn't succeed, lol. cheers.
  • LifeChangz
    LifeChangz Posts: 456 Member
    neanderthin wrote: »
    Try gaining weight by just eating steak, yeah, almost impossible. Got my hands of a dry aged 1kg choice grade steak, and that's going on the outdoor grill tonight. Maybe I'll add some carbs too. Cheers

    lol, so where is that chart that shows all eating approaches end up with weight gain unless you eat less than you burn?

    going back to the 70's, the women in our family tried so many diets that were protein heavy, aka meat, aka the times we indulged in Steaks! Stillman, Atkins, So. Beach. The diets kind of say, hey, you don't have to count calories, eat these foods... and darn, I easily gained on them all. Steak, um, yum!
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,209 Member
    LifeChangz wrote: »
    neanderthin wrote: »
    Try gaining weight by just eating steak, yeah, almost impossible. Got my hands of a dry aged 1kg choice grade steak, and that's going on the outdoor grill tonight. Maybe I'll add some carbs too. Cheers

    lol, so where is that chart that shows all eating approaches end up with weight gain unless you eat less than you burn?

    going back to the 70's, the women in our family tried so many diets that were protein heavy, aka meat, aka the times we indulged in Steaks! Stillman, Atkins, So. Beach. The diets kind of say, hey, you don't have to count calories, eat these foods... and darn, I easily gained on them all. Steak, um, yum!

    Yep, most people can't stick to any diet especially when all the yummy foods are what people give up, people like yummy foods, yummy food wins almost all the time. :D

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