No Surprise - Sucralose is Bad for You

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  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,281 Member
    edited June 2023
    ^^ Yes, exactly.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,985 Member
    More peer reviewed study on the "chemical" in question needs to be performed to get a more concise conclusion.

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  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,328 Member
    Terrania24 wrote: »
    The World Health Organization advises against the use of ALL non-sugar sweeteners. They advise this because their systematic review of available evidence suggests that "there may be potential undesirable effects from long-term use of non-sugar sweeteners, such as an increased risk of type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular diseases, and mortality in adults." Their advice applies to everyone except those with pre-existing diabetes.

    This particular recommendation from the WHO for me is the final nail in the coffin for any trust in what they put out. There are so many issues with the study this is based on the first of which is it lumps all non-sugar sweeteners together, second it is based on observational studies which are unable to establish causation. Third, this study, as much as it claims to have not done this, seems to be suffering from reverse causation. There is more. Alan Aragon did a good critique of this announcement showings its abundant weaknesses.
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,328 Member
    Retroguy2000 wrote: »
    @paperpudding

    Re this,

    "Replacing free sugars with NSS does not help with weight control in the long term. People need to consider other ways to reduce free sugars intake, such as consuming food with naturally occurring sugars, like fruit, or unsweetened food and beverages,” says Francesco Branca, WHO Director for Nutrition and Food Safety. "NSS are not essential dietary factors and have no nutritional value. People should reduce the sweetness of the diet altogether, starting early in life, to improve their health."

    Sure, that sounds like an ideal. Recommending to start early in life is a bit too late for most obese adults though. For those who are starting from an obese position, I find it hard to believe that NSS doesn't help with weight control. Just the effort of switching from sugar to NSS shows a level of diet commitment, which is likely rewarded with some weight loss.

    Part of the issue is that the evidence from clinical practices is not generally included in studies like this because it doesn't meet their criteria. There are obesity clinicians who do disagree strongly with the claim that NNS do not assist in both short-term loss and long-term maintenance of weight. The issue is not the NNS, but the difficulties of dealing with generally all of a person's life experiences, habits, and practices that got them overweight in the first place. Trying to fix that is a long-term, may I say it, rest of their life (and mine) task that will have many who go through stages of failure.

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