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  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 32,419 Member
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    sollyn23l2 wrote: »
    I think the approach of advice matters.

    You are xyz condition - you must do this thing I say - not good approach

    People with xyz often find abc helpful, I have had success with abc, a suggestion to try is abc, xyz association recommends abc - good approaches

    Exactly. I think it's about suggestions vs. dogma. Not that I'm saying people shouldn't give potentially helpful ideas, but understanding that it's not necessarily the best or only one.

    That seems idealistic to me, TBH - for it to happen, for people to understand that their "miracle" isn't the best or only answer . . . that's tantamount to wanting a personality transplant or intellect upgrade in other people. Yeah, highly desirable in many cases, here and elsewhere, but 100% not gonna happen.

    The people who post that XYZ diet will cure arthritis (or whatever) really, truly believe that XYZ diet will cure arthritis. With that belief, it would seem a moral failing not to share the news. (Probably Big Pharma or something is trying to hide it, so there's a noble David and Goliath hero's quest kind of thing in there in some cases, too. ;) ).


  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 9,967 Member
    edited October 2023
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    It's funny how science works. With low carb and ketogenic diets, one of the common acknowledgements is arthritis is diminished or gone all together, and I can attest to that and yes that lives on a continuum where some people see no relief. Is there science that explains that, you bet. Unfortunately many people will not look at science that differs from their ideology or beliefs and actually, they'll literally stop reading something that conflicts with this, and I know because I use to do it. Also suggesting to actually look at science that totally conflicts with ideology for data gathering is on a learning curve to which many never leave the starting line. It's also a very daunting process that takes a lot of investigation and energy that is full of confounders, that make it extremely time consuming, which is a main reason people don't bother.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 32,419 Member
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    I should've known I'd be sorry if I used an actual disease or health condition as an example. I thought it might be enough to use "XYZ" diet, instead of a real diet. Nope.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 9,967 Member
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    I was surprised that you just didn't stick to "XYZ" :)
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,574 Member
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    If it's joint, muscle, or certain injuries needed for rehab, I'm qualified to give advice. Endocrinology, I give my opinion on based on experience. But first and foremost, one should consult their own physicians because they are first hand on seeing them up close.

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  • loulee997
    loulee997 Posts: 273 Member
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    I will explain options that worked for me or people I know. I also say --that no one should make any changes without talking to their doctor.

    For example, Vitamin D3 supplements really helped my mood regulation and blood pressure. I had my doctor's approval. I recommend other people also get a doctor's approval before adding any vitamin or supplement.

    But if we say you can't share any type of medical info or feedback---we close the door for people researching possibilities.

    I am concerned when people recommend supplements or procedures without also saying talk to a doctor before making changes.

    So an open information highway is great---but with a caveat about medical safety.