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  • BodyTemple23
    BodyTemple23 Posts: 90 Member
    Thank you all for your comments and insights. I appreciate it and will make sure to mull over the inputs.

    I'm undergoing a detox program and will resume my diet plan post that. I'll return to the MFP community for help once I resume.

    Thank you!
  • BodyTemple23
    BodyTemple23 Posts: 90 Member
    @Lietchi, how did you estimate my TDEE?

    I estimated 1650 based on a calculator @AnnPT77 shared a while back. I seem to have lost the link.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,416 Member
    Ann probably gave you Sailrabbit.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,416 Member
    The thing is - unless you log food and exercise for quite a while you won't be able to know exactly how much to eat. Online calculators are all guessing...your personal TDEE can vary a LOT from the calculators and can vary day to day and week to week. It's all a process and requires pivoting to stay on track.

    Log food.
    Log exercise.
    Gather trending data over Time.
    Adjust as needed after gathering that data.
  • Lietchi
    Lietchi Posts: 6,839 Member

    BodyTemple23 wrote: »
    @Lietchi, how did you estimate my TDEE?

    As I said: based on your actual data (not calculated according to statistical averages) :smile:

    Bodyfat is around 3500kcal/lb to lose or gain. So based on your weight loss (11lbs (=38500kcal total deficit) divided by 244 days), I calculated what your average daily deficit was. Adding the deficit to your intake, I arrived at your estimated TDEE for that period.

    Calculators are a starting point, but your own data is superior to that because that's all about you and not some statistical population average.
    Lietchi wrote: »
    BodyTemple23 wrote: »
    But...

    I didn't eat my exercise calories back, so that should give me a total deficit of 500 calories plus. No?

    Based on your actual data (not calculated according to statistical averages): 11lbs over 8 months is an effective calorie deficit of 158kcal per day.
    Which would make your TDEE 1558kcal per day (including exercise) if you ate 1400 calories per day on average over that period and your food logging was accurate.

  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    BodyTemple23 wrote: »
    Thank you all for your comments and insights. I appreciate it and will make sure to mull over the inputs.

    I'm undergoing a detox program and will resume my diet plan post that. I'll return to the MFP community for help once I resume.

    Thank you!

    My friend was in detox last month and is going to rehab hopefully this month. She had an issue with her car that required her to stay in town and deal with personally and didn't make it yesterday as planned.

    But perhaps you meant a different type of detox?
  • BodyTemple23
    BodyTemple23 Posts: 90 Member
    @kshama2001 Yes. I meant Ayurveda detox, which clears toxins from your body via natural therapies. It's just good for your system and liver in general.

    I hope your friend recovers.
  • musicfan68
    musicfan68 Posts: 1,143 Member
    BodyTemple23 wrote: »
    @kshama2001 Yes. I meant Ayurveda detox, which clears toxins from your body via natural therapies. It's just good for your system and liver in general.

    I hope your friend recovers.

    You do know that your kidneys and liver do all the detoxing your body needs, right? Unless you have serious kidney or liver damage, which you would be seeing a doctor for and be on kidney dialysis to detox your blood, these so called "detoxes" are pointless and are just costing you money.
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,225 Member
    cmriverside wrote: »
    Ann probably gave you Sailrabbit.

    Yes, almost certainly.

    https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/

    But I hope I also told you what Lietchi is saying here: Using your own calorie intake and weight loss rate is a much better way to estimate calorie needs than any calculator or fitness tracker. But we can't do that at the start of a loss effort, because we need 4-6 weeks of calorie counting and weight-change data in order to do it. (It'd be whole menstrual cycles for those who have them, comparing weight at the same relative point in different cycles.)

    When I estimated your effective average deficit earlier in this thread, I did what Lietchi did: Look at how long you said you'd been losing, and how much you've lost. Where she used days, I used weeks as an approximation, so came up with a slightly different answer: She got 158 calories as your average daily deficit, I got 172 calories. Same concept, different approximation math.

    Use your own data to guide your calorie goals, once you have enough data to do that. For some of us, it makes a big, big difference. MFP's estimate and the one from my good brand/model fitness tracker (that's close for others) are off by around 500 calories daily. In my case, it's in the fortunate "get to eat more than average" direction, but it can go either way.

    We're individuals. We can differ from average. Individualized TDEE estimates based on our own data are helpful. If someone determines they're close to what a calculator/fitness tracker says, they can continue using it. But if someone's further from average in calorie needs, believing the calculator/tracker estimate is going to make weight loss less predictable, and possibly more frustrating/discouraging.
  • BodyTemple23
    BodyTemple23 Posts: 90 Member
    Thanks, Ann. Yes, this makes sense. Thanks again.

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