Help! Just started and I'm at a plateau!
spbettez88
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Hi my name is Steven and I just started this program and have lost 8 pounds. But now I'm stuck! What should I do to get the weight loss back? I'm a 6'1" male and now weigh 232 and they have me at 1870 calories a day. Any ideas? Should I be eating the calories I burn off with exercise? Thanks
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Congrats on losing 8lbs, why do you think you are having a plateau?0
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Congrats on losing 8lbs, why do you think you are having a plateau?
This. More info needed.
When did you first start your diet?0 -
Hi my name is Steven and I just started this program and have lost 8 pounds. But now I'm stuck! What should I do to get the weight loss back? I'm a 6'1" male and now weigh 232 and they have me at 1870 calories a day. Any ideas? Should I be eating the calories I burn off with exercise? Thanks
Six weeks of no gain or loss is a plateau. Has it been six weeks of no gain or loss?0 -
Congrats on losing 8lbs, why do you think you are having a plateau?
This. More info needed.
When did you first start your diet?
Sounds like you lose 8lbs every time you start. Just start over.0 -
No no no no no no no!0
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1870 cals/day at 230 sounds way too low. The body retains fat when it is starved.0
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So, explain to me how the body creates energy out of nothing.1870 cals/day at 230 sounds way too low. The body retains fat when it is starved.0 -
1870 cals/day at 230 sounds way too low. The body retains fat when it is starved.
This....is not true....
I ate 1800-2000 calories and lost consistently, are you sure you're actually accurately counting the 1800 calories? Do you use a food scale?0 -
1870 cals/day at 230 sounds way too low. The body retains fat when it is starved.
I get far less than that and I'm heavier. Don't think anyone's starving here ;-)0 -
So, explain to me how the body creates energy out of nothing.1870 cals/day at 230 sounds way too low. The body retains fat when it is starved.
Who said the body creates energy out of nothing? OP says he's consuming 1870 a day... how is that nothing?0 -
If he's not eating enough calories to even sustain his weight, in order for the body to hold onto the weight on his body, it would need to create MORE calories, i.e. energy. Where is it getting that energy?
So, explain to me how the body creates energy out of nothing.1870 cals/day at 230 sounds way too low. The body retains fat when it is starved.
Who said the body creates energy out of nothing? OP says he's consuming 1870 a day... how is that nothing?0 -
If he's not eating enough calories to even sustain his weight, in order for the body to hold onto the weight on his body, it would need to create MORE calories, i.e. energy. Where is it getting that energy?
So, explain to me how the body creates energy out of nothing.1870 cals/day at 230 sounds way too low. The body retains fat when it is starved.
Who said the body creates energy out of nothing? OP says he's consuming 1870 a day... how is that nothing?
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If he's not eating enough calories to even sustain his weight, in order for the body to hold onto the weight on his body, it would need to create MORE calories, i.e. energy. Where is it getting that energy?
So, explain to me how the body creates energy out of nothing.1870 cals/day at 230 sounds way too low. The body retains fat when it is starved.
Who said the body creates energy out of nothing? OP says he's consuming 1870 a day... how is that nothing?
Body tissue is not static. Nor is the distribution of energy-carrying products in the body. Energy can be rendered from tissue without losing weight.
Plateaus after a little loss at the beginning seem to be fairly common. Anyone who has tried cutting for any reason isprobably familiar with response. Search MFP, there are probably tons of posts on that topic. Upping calories can bring the loss back again if they were set too low.0 -
Energy can be rendered from tissue without losing weight.
LOL
Wut?0 -
If he's not eating enough calories to even sustain his weight, in order for the body to hold onto the weight on his body, it would need to create MORE calories, i.e. energy. Where is it getting that energy?
So, explain to me how the body creates energy out of nothing.1870 cals/day at 230 sounds way too low. The body retains fat when it is starved.
Who said the body creates energy out of nothing? OP says he's consuming 1870 a day... how is that nothing?
Body tissue is not static. Nor is the distribution of energy-carrying products in the body. Energy can be rendered from tissue without losing weight.
Plateaus after a little loss at the beginning seem to be fairly common. Anyone who has tried cutting for any reason isprobably familiar with response. Search MFP, there are probably tons of posts on that topic. Upping calories can bring the loss back again if they were set too low.
Energy cannot be rendered from tissue without a loss of mass.0 -
If he's not eating enough calories to even sustain his weight, in order for the body to hold onto the weight on his body, it would need to create MORE calories, i.e. energy. Where is it getting that energy?
So, explain to me how the body creates energy out of nothing.1870 cals/day at 230 sounds way too low. The body retains fat when it is starved.
Who said the body creates energy out of nothing? OP says he's consuming 1870 a day... how is that nothing?
Body tissue is not static. Nor is the distribution of energy-carrying products in the body. Energy can be rendered from tissue without losing weight.
Plateaus after a little loss at the beginning seem to be fairly common. Anyone who has tried cutting for any reason isprobably familiar with response. Search MFP, there are probably tons of posts on that topic. Upping calories can bring the loss back again if they were set too low.
Energy cannot be rendered from tissue without a loss of mass.
So by your logic then, since I have maintained my weight for the last 4 months, my body has not rendered any energy from my tissues?0 -
Of course it has. And you replaced that energy by eating a maintenance level of calories.
If he's not eating enough calories to even sustain his weight, in order for the body to hold onto the weight on his body, it would need to create MORE calories, i.e. energy. Where is it getting that energy?
So, explain to me how the body creates energy out of nothing.1870 cals/day at 230 sounds way too low. The body retains fat when it is starved.
Who said the body creates energy out of nothing? OP says he's consuming 1870 a day... how is that nothing?
Body tissue is not static. Nor is the distribution of energy-carrying products in the body. Energy can be rendered from tissue without losing weight.
Plateaus after a little loss at the beginning seem to be fairly common. Anyone who has tried cutting for any reason isprobably familiar with response. Search MFP, there are probably tons of posts on that topic. Upping calories can bring the loss back again if they were set too low.
Energy cannot be rendered from tissue without a loss of mass.
So by your logic then, since I have maintained my weight for the last 4 months, my body has not rendered any energy from my tissues?
Wheird is not being logical. He is stating a scientific fact.0 -
The bottom line is, the OP is not in a plateau. He started in August. Giving him the benefit of the doubt that he started on August 1, he has lost 8 pounds in five weeks. That is a very fast pace for loses (1.6 pounds per week).
He hasn't come back to answer a single question, so either he forgot us, doesn't care or is trolling. Either way, eating more is not the answer he needs, though it's possible he could eat more and still lose at his weight.0 -
I'm at 243... started at 425... I'm doing about 1800 calories and exercising and its coming off about one to two pounds per week now... A slight slow down or stall happens every once in a while... How long is the "plateau" and what is your sodium intake, new exercise routine, lots of other factors to consider if this is less than four weeks holding steady...0
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If you just started, like you said. You are NOT hitting a plateau. I would eat about 2000 cals and exercise a few days a week.0
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Having a deficit of 3500 calories doesn't mean that you will lose a pound! 3500 calories is the energy stored in one pound of fat. In order to drop that weight you must remove the wastes from your body and create a new homeostatic condition for your body. Water retention, constipation, etc... can mask weight loss. The equation for weight loss is not simply deficit of 3500 calories = 1 pound lost. Good intake of water, proper nutrition and calorie reduction are all essential components in losing weight and especially healthy weight loss. Excess sodium, lack of fiber, lack of water can all trigger negative reactions like water retention, constipation, muscle loss, etc...0
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Up water intake, watch sodium in foods, cut processed foods, weight train and PATIENCES !!!
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Of course it has. And you replaced that energy by eating a maintenance level of calories.
If he's not eating enough calories to even sustain his weight, in order for the body to hold onto the weight on his body, it would need to create MORE calories, i.e. energy. Where is it getting that energy?
So, explain to me how the body creates energy out of nothing.1870 cals/day at 230 sounds way too low. The body retains fat when it is starved.
Who said the body creates energy out of nothing? OP says he's consuming 1870 a day... how is that nothing?
Body tissue is not static. Nor is the distribution of energy-carrying products in the body. Energy can be rendered from tissue without losing weight.
Plateaus after a little loss at the beginning seem to be fairly common. Anyone who has tried cutting for any reason isprobably familiar with response. Search MFP, there are probably tons of posts on that topic. Upping calories can bring the loss back again if they were set too low.
Energy cannot be rendered from tissue without a loss of mass.
So by your logic then, since I have maintained my weight for the last 4 months, my body has not rendered any energy from my tissues?
Wheird is not being logical. He is stating a scientific fact.
Actually, he is MIS-stating a scientific fact, or, at the very least, omitting a major component of it. I *think* wheird was attempting to relate the mass-energy equivalence concept from physics/thermodynamics, in which total mass / energy are conserved IN A CLOSED SYSTEM. My fat stores are not a closed system. This is evident in that in the 8 months prior, I lost 11 lbs fat and gained 11 pounds lean mass. Wheird stated that I could not render energy from tissue without loss of mass, which of course is patently false as that 11 lbs fat served as an energy store for my body.
I agree a lot of information is missing from the OP, but to reject my initial suggestion as a possible option (of many) is just elitist. Personal experience and evidence from many people I've trained with over the years suggests it is a valid option. Guys at 230lb would cut all the time at 2500 cals. 1800 cals for this OP seems to be like 30 or 40% under TDEE if he's exercising regularly.
lewcompton has observed "slow downs" and "stalls" as he says above. As him where his body created the energy while he ate at a caloric deficit.0 -
Having a deficit of 3500 calories doesn't mean that you will lose a pound! 3500 calories is the energy stored in one pound of fat. In order to drop that weight you must remove the wastes from your body and create a new homeostatic condition for your body. Water retention, constipation, etc... can mask weight loss. The equation for weight loss is not simply deficit of 3500 calories = 1 pound lost. Good intake of water, proper nutrition and calorie reduction are all essential components in losing weight and especially healthy weight loss. Excess sodium, lack of fiber, lack of water can all trigger negative reactions like water retention, constipation, muscle loss, etc...
Great post. So you can maintain weight at a caloric deficit after all. Interesting....0 -
I'm sorry, but I cannot take you seriously so long as you continue insisting the human body is capable of creating energy from nothing. If that were true, it would be the only organism in the universe that could do so.
Of course it has. And you replaced that energy by eating a maintenance level of calories.
If he's not eating enough calories to even sustain his weight, in order for the body to hold onto the weight on his body, it would need to create MORE calories, i.e. energy. Where is it getting that energy?
So, explain to me how the body creates energy out of nothing.1870 cals/day at 230 sounds way too low. The body retains fat when it is starved.
Who said the body creates energy out of nothing? OP says he's consuming 1870 a day... how is that nothing?
Body tissue is not static. Nor is the distribution of energy-carrying products in the body. Energy can be rendered from tissue without losing weight.
Plateaus after a little loss at the beginning seem to be fairly common. Anyone who has tried cutting for any reason isprobably familiar with response. Search MFP, there are probably tons of posts on that topic. Upping calories can bring the loss back again if they were set too low.
Energy cannot be rendered from tissue without a loss of mass.
So by your logic then, since I have maintained my weight for the last 4 months, my body has not rendered any energy from my tissues?
Wheird is not being logical. He is stating a scientific fact.
Actually, he is MIS-stating a scientific fact, or, at the very least, omitting a major component of it. I *think* wheird was attempting to relate the mass-energy equivalence concept from physics/thermodynamics, in which total mass / energy are conserved IN A CLOSED SYSTEM. My fat stores are not a closed system. This is evident in that in the 8 months prior, I lost 11 lbs fat and gained 11 pounds lean mass. Wheird stated that I could not render energy from tissue without loss of mass, which of course is patently false as that 11 lbs fat served as an energy store for my body.
I agree a lot of information is missing from the OP, but to reject my initial suggestion as a possible option (of many) is just elitist. Personal experience and evidence from many people I've trained with over the years suggests it is a valid option. Guys at 230lb would cut all the time at 2500 cals. 1800 cals for this OP seems to be like 30 or 40% under TDEE if he's exercising regularly.
lewcompton has observed "slow downs" and "stalls" as he says above. As him where his body created the energy while he ate at a caloric deficit.0 -
I'm sorry, but I cannot take you seriously so long as you continue insisting the human body is capable of creating energy from nothing. If that were true, it would be the only organism in the universe that could do so.
Hilarious!! For some reason you keep insisting that my posts say energy is created.
At no point have I ever said the human body creates energy from nothing. I said my body rendered energy from fat--please enlighten me on how that is "creating" energy in your interpretation. Does your science dispute that I burned fat for energy?
The body is a massive energy reservoir. If you can't understand the concept that instantaneous input/output of energy in a system does not have to be equal, then I can't take you seriously.0 -
Basically your particular body fat defies the laws of thermodynamics.....gotcha.
Of course it has. And you replaced that energy by eating a maintenance level of calories.
If he's not eating enough calories to even sustain his weight, in order for the body to hold onto the weight on his body, it would need to create MORE calories, i.e. energy. Where is it getting that energy?
So, explain to me how the body creates energy out of nothing.1870 cals/day at 230 sounds way too low. The body retains fat when it is starved.
Who said the body creates energy out of nothing? OP says he's consuming 1870 a day... how is that nothing?
Body tissue is not static. Nor is the distribution of energy-carrying products in the body. Energy can be rendered from tissue without losing weight.
Plateaus after a little loss at the beginning seem to be fairly common. Anyone who has tried cutting for any reason isprobably familiar with response. Search MFP, there are probably tons of posts on that topic. Upping calories can bring the loss back again if they were set too low.
Energy cannot be rendered from tissue without a loss of mass.
So by your logic then, since I have maintained my weight for the last 4 months, my body has not rendered any energy from my tissues?
Wheird is not being logical. He is stating a scientific fact.
Actually, he is MIS-stating a scientific fact, or, at the very least, omitting a major component of it. I *think* wheird was attempting to relate the mass-energy equivalence concept from physics/thermodynamics, in which total mass / energy are conserved IN A CLOSED SYSTEM. My fat stores are not a closed system. This is evident in that in the 8 months prior, I lost 11 lbs fat and gained 11 pounds lean mass. Wheird stated that I could not render energy from tissue without loss of mass, which of course is patently false as that 11 lbs fat served as an energy store for my body.
I agree a lot of information is missing from the OP, but to reject my initial suggestion as a possible option (of many) is just elitist. Personal experience and evidence from many people I've trained with over the years suggests it is a valid option. Guys at 230lb would cut all the time at 2500 cals. 1800 cals for this OP seems to be like 30 or 40% under TDEE if he's exercising regularly.
lewcompton has observed "slow downs" and "stalls" as he says above. As him where his body created the energy while he ate at a caloric deficit.0 -
Basically your particular body fat defies the laws of thermodynamics.....gotcha.
Not just my body fat, but YOURS too!!! Apparently the burning of body fat defies physical law (?)...0 -
Wow. Only on page 2 and already so much derp.
^^My version of the slow clap... you're welcome.
OP, can we get some more info, please. Such as, how long is this "plateau" so far? How long have you been working out?
ETA: Wtf Photobucket? Sorry, too bad, you can't see the "clap"
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It's sad that nearly every post devolves into the Starvation Mode discussion. I wish we could get a sticky about it.
Anyway, I've started diets many times in my 43 years. I have always experienced the same thing - the first 10 pounds comes off pretty easy and then you seem to stall out - the "plateau".
I do not think this is "starvation mode", which does not happen unless you get down into single-digit body fat percentages.
But I definitely think your body reacts to the caloric deficit and slows down a bit. When this happens I tend to feel very tired. And I was not exercising to counter it.
It takes a couple of weeks to push through this and for your body to "give up" and continue the weight loss.
Here you can see it in my data:
http://i.imgur.com/wD8Xg6M.jpg
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