Constructive Diary Criticism Requested

Hello all, I'm new to the forum but not to myfitnesspal. I am 5'3", 180 lbs 32 year old female. I've gained about 8 lbs this year from a low of 172 last year. I've been logging my food, and I just started a new fitness schedule with running and strength training. I'm seeing a 0 sum loss on the scale. I gain 2 lbs then lose 4 lbs then gain those 4 lbs back. If you can see my weigh-in chart you will see what I mean. What am I doing wrong? I have my goal set at 1600 calories a day because I've read on here not to eat too little. My diary is public. I would love some constructive ideas on how to get my weightloss back on track. As of right now, none of the jeans I bought last year fit and it's almost fall. :(
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  • Phoenix_Warrior
    Phoenix_Warrior Posts: 1,633 Member
    I highly suggest reading http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/975025-in-place-of-a-road-map-short-n-sweet?hl=in+the+place+of+a+road+map

    As far as your diary, if you arent, I would highly suggested making sure you are weighing and measuring everything. The difference of using measuring cups for solids (and even some dense foods such as peanut butter and hummus) and using a food scale can make a huge difference. Scales will be much more accurate.

    Make sure you're drinking plenty of water as some of what you are seeing gain wise could be water retention from picking up a new work out routine.

    Make sure you log everything, even condiments or things that may sem trivial, as these do add up. I would also try to maybe eat more nutrient rich things. You dont have to ditch all the fun stuff, but moderation is key.

    I'm sorry, I'm no expert. I've only just begun my own weight loss journey, but this is what I have seen and personally had work for me so far. I hope this helps and good luck!
  • Greenrun99
    Greenrun99 Posts: 2,065 Member
    As LadyDeadPool suggested, read that In Place of a Road map link.. make sure you have a digital scale and you measure everything you eat.
    Eat your calories instead of drinking them. Plus eat the calories you are given but try not eating exercise calories (at this stage) and eat as much protein as you can at the expense of carbs.. You should definitely try to max out your protein macro everyday and then let the carbs and fat fall in line after that.
  • Hildy_J
    Hildy_J Posts: 1,050 Member
    Hi there,

    I just popped your weight and height into one of the calculators (given in the link by the poster above) and according to that you should be aiming for 1440 calories/day, if you're lightly active.

    Your diary looks really thorough, but the weighing and measuring is crucial - so if you're eating a tbsp. of peanut butter - use those little measuring spoons and make sure it's level not heaped! Same with weighing, use a scale for everything.

    It's just a case of a little tweaking and you'll be on your way! Your little girl is gorgeous, btw. :-)

    Good luck!
  • 1princesswarrior
    1princesswarrior Posts: 1,242 Member
    Hi,

    I looked through a few days of your diary. From what I briefly saw I would suggest trying to better equal out your protein and carbs, especially with starting a new exercise routine you will need both. Maybe add some more chicken or fish or a protein shake??

    Also, you are not logging your water and are often a little over in sodium, that will cause water fluctuations as well. I drink a gallon of water a day to make sure my muscles are satisfied and I'm hydrated. But too much sodium will cause me to still retain water.

    Are you also taking measurements? That will help reassure you are making progress when the scale doesn't move the way you are expecting.

    Good luck!
  • GymRatGirl13
    GymRatGirl13 Posts: 157 Member
    Hi there. I went back two days in your diary and didn't need to go any further. In two days you had the following items:

    Cheesecake 2 times
    Pizza
    sausage bun (no clue what that is....ugh)
    hot dog
    frappe
    lemonade

    These items made up the majority of your food choices in two days.
    Don't drink your calories. They are empty calories that supply your body with nothing but fat cells.

    Limit your processed food items. Pizza, hot dogs, sausage buns, etc are fun, but they aren't foods that are going to supply your body with nutrients and sustained energy; and they definitely aren't going to help you lose any amount of fat off of your body.

    Sugar and simple carbs: limit these, too if you are serious about losing fat. Complex carbs like oatmeal, sweet potatoes (not crinkle cut fries like you have in your diary, but actual yams or sweet potatoes), quinoa, brown rice, etc are great carb sources that should be eaten in smaller quanitites throughout the day to help with energy and to prevent you from binge eating. Protein should be consumed in every meal as well. This keeps you full and satisfied and provides your body with amino acids to sustain muscle while eating at a deficit.

    It has been my experience as a figure competitor experienced in cutting body fat, that there is more to fat loss than counting calories. What you eat matters to a degree. I hope this helps and good luck!
  • Good evening,
    I looked back through about 3 days of your logs and here are a few observations
    1. Your sugars are very high. I would recommend replacing the cheesecake snack with something high protein (jerky, egg whites, etc)
    2. Based on the last 3 days, the foods you are eating do not really provide a good deal of fiber. I would recommend upping your veggie intake.

    Keep training hard AND DO NOT GET DISCOURAGED!. A good healthy weight loss goal is around 2.5 pounds per week. Make sure you are weighing yourself at the same time under the same conditions (in the morning, soon after waking, naked, etc). Ones bodyweight can fluctuate a lot during the day.

    good luck
  • WhiteRabbit1313
    WhiteRabbit1313 Posts: 1,091 Member
    I suggest, that if you're not going to do any majorly strenuous fitness training program, or it's equivalent, I wouldn't track exercise. I really think those numbers are inflated on MFP and they allow you to "earn" calories, which could be a pitfall for some of us. (Like ME!) Personally, I'm sedentary to moderately active and have my goal set at 1300 calories/day, and that seems to satisfy me pretty well. (At first, I set my goal at 1200, but was having trouble not going over, so I raised it to 1300, and that seemed to help.)
  • sobriquet84
    sobriquet84 Posts: 607 Member
    i would suggesting seeing about getting a metabolic panel done by your doc. you could be sensitive to certain macros. i did notice that your diet is very carb heavy and you're not getting that much protein. i would strongly suggest increasing your protein (while obviously keeping your daily total calories the same.) my net carbs (total carbs minus fiber) to protein ratio is around 1:1.
  • WhiteRabbit1313
    WhiteRabbit1313 Posts: 1,091 Member
    As for the naysayers on processed foods (which I prefer not to eat most of the time, either). You CAN lose weight on pizza, lemonade, sausage buns, cheesecake, etc. (I've DONE it!), BUT you won't be allowed to eat as much, quantity-wise, and you're not doing your body any favors. Try finding healthier, more nutrient dense substitutes. Cheesecake, imo, is totally fine, but eat 3-4 bites, not a full slice. Try flavored teas without artificial sweeteners to replace your lemonade, etc., when water isn't cutting it. Personally, I prefer more solid food to drinking my calories, so aside from alcoholic beverages (high cal!) and tomato juice (low cal!), I don't really waste calories there. Lastly, veggies. Learn how to prepare and enjoy your veggies. Sautéed spinach, cauliflower, and green beans are favorites of mine. Use herbs, spices, oils, and butter (small portions on oil and butter), because they greatly enhance the flavor AND fats help you absorb the nutrients better.

    Remember, this is about progress, not perfection, and the one thing I've learned from all of my diet research is that the bottom line truly is calories in vs. calories out. Don't waste your time, or sanity, counting carbs, etc. BTDT and it sucked! Just count calories.
  • kimberlymarie30
    kimberlymarie30 Posts: 36 Member
    Thanks everyone. The last couple of days are not necessarily representative of the way I've been eating the last few months, but that's okay. We went to a festival over the weekend and I refuse to deny myself when everyone else is having fun. If it was truly calories in/calories out then I should be losing at least a little and I'm just not. I also drink 4 16 oz tumblers of water at work every day. Then I have more water when I'm at home during the evening and when I work out.
    I've read the Roadmap. The TDEE I calculated a few months ago was 2196 I took 27% of that and came to 1600 calories a day. If I'm eating at a deficit then I should be losing according to the many forums I've read here.
    And for those who think I'm just someone who can't be dedicated to lose weight. I'm actually down 70 lbs since having my daughter almost 5 years ago. I got sidetracked last year because I had poison ivy over half of my upper body and the doctors put me on Prednisone which made me gain and I haven't been able to take it off again.
  • Phoenix_Warrior
    Phoenix_Warrior Posts: 1,633 Member
    Thanks everyone. The last couple of days are not necessarily representative of the way I've been eating the last few months, but that's okay. We went to a festival over the weekend and I refuse to deny myself when everyone else is having fun. If it was truly calories in/calories out then I should be losing at least a little and I'm just not. I also drink 4 16 oz tumblers of water at work every day. Then I have more water when I'm at home during the evening and when I work out.
    I've read the Roadmap. The TDEE I calculated a few months ago was 2196 I took 27% of that and came to 1600 calories a day. If I'm eating at a deficit then I should be losing according to the many forums I've read here.
    And for those who think I'm just someone who can't be dedicated to lose weight. I'm actually down 70 lbs since having my daughter almost 5 years ago. I got sidetracked last year because I had poison ivy over half of my upper body and the doctors put me on Prednisone which made me gain and I haven't been able to take it off again.

    Do you weigh and measure your food?
  • kimberlymarie30
    kimberlymarie30 Posts: 36 Member
    I think that weighing and measuring is probably my downfall here. However, how did I lose 70 lbs without measuring my food? I've eaten processed foods the whole time, and I still lost 70 lbs. I work full time and run a photography business on the side so I don't have a lot of time to prepare food at home.
  • silken555
    silken555 Posts: 478 Member
    If you only have 8lbs you want to lose then you need to recalculate your TDEE to -10%. The less you need to lose or the closer to goal you get, the more your body resists loss.

    -27% is a LOT. Even if you want to lose 20lbs or more, a percentage that high is really only recommended for obese people with 100lbs+ to lose. It's better for your body to stay within the 10-20% range depending on where you are in your journey.
  • wilsoje74
    wilsoje74 Posts: 1,720 Member
    If you are no longer losing then you probably need to either lower your calories or increase your exercise. You don't need a lot of time to make healthy meals. But salad ingredients, add a protein, lots of fruits and veggies. You can have some processed foods but make it a treat not daily. And you said you don't want to deprive yourself when everyone else is eating. However you do need to change some habits. Eat one treat or smaller portions.
  • Hildy_J
    Hildy_J Posts: 1,050 Member
    I think that weighing and measuring is probably my downfall here. However, how did I lose 70 lbs without measuring my food? I've eaten processed foods the whole time, and I still lost 70 lbs. I work full time and run a photography business on the side so I don't have a lot of time to prepare food at home.

    According to your TDEE calculation, you put the setting as 'moderately active' - I think that's for people who run 30 miles a week, from what I can remember of the roadmap post. Perhaps switch it down to 'lightly active' if that'll paint a truer picture.

    You're doing great! Just keep that scale out in the kitchen and get one for work, too. xx
  • sobriquet84
    sobriquet84 Posts: 607 Member
    I think that weighing and measuring is probably my downfall here. However, how did I lose 70 lbs without measuring my food? I've eaten processed foods the whole time, and I still lost 70 lbs. I work full time and run a photography business on the side so I don't have a lot of time to prepare food at home.

    the more you have to lose, the easier/faster you're going to lose it.

    i appreciate you making yoru diary public and asking for honest feedback, but there's only so much advice we can give you if you're going to make excuses. i applaud you on your 70lb weight loss, that's huge and a great acheivement. but i sense you making excuses so that you don't "really" have to make any changes. measure your food, its not that hard. "preparing" foods isn't that hard either. for breakfast, take a couple hard boiled eggs and an apple with you (I hard boil eggs for the week every Sunday night). snack on things like almonds, string cheese, yogurt, vegetables and fruits, heck go out and buy a box of protein bars (I recommend Quest bars ONLY) and throw one in your purse. these things literally take SECONDS to do in the morning.
  • xoeva
    xoeva Posts: 209 Member
    Hi... I looked at your food diary and would recommend you not drink any of your calories (unless it's non fat milk). Maybe try water with a squirt of lemon in a fancy glass instead of lemonade. Also try eating twice as many vegetables cooked or raw ... really measure your portions... and most imporatanly try eating natural/whole foods. Try to eat food that looks like what it looked like when it was grown. For examplem an apple, an egg look like what they look like when the chicken lays it or the tree grows it...not so much with cheese cake and hotdogs. Maybe have a one meal out of the 21 meals a week that you can indulge (in moderation). My meal is Friday night's dinner.
  • kimberlymarie30
    kimberlymarie30 Posts: 36 Member
    It's pretty obvious that no one is actually looking at my diary and are only going back the last couple of days. That's okay, I live in the real world where people work and don't have all day everyday to obsess about what they are eating. I stay within my calories and am not losing. Like I said, if it was truly calories in/calories out I would be losing. I'm not. You people have no explanation for that in your little world, so you start attacking me for one bad day over the weekend. My husband bought me a Sara Lee cheesecake for our anniversary. We've been having the exact serving for almost a week now. It's taken that long to eat the whole thing between the two of us.
    This just makes me want to cry because I refuse to be one of those people that is constantly thinking about everything I eat. Those people are so annoying to me. I've been told time and time again that it is calories in/calories out. Is that wrong?
    I'm taking this challenge. I'm going to measure everything I eat from now on. Maybe that's where this is going wrong, although I don't think I'm eating 2196 or over a day, so I shouldn't be at maintenance. This makes no sense.
  • Hildy_J
    Hildy_J Posts: 1,050 Member
    Forget the people telling you 'cheesecake is evil' or whatever, they're just bringing their own stuff to the party. Yes it is purely about calories in and calories out, for weight loss.

    I'd cry if I'd had poison ivy and then I was slammed for eating cheesecake. Seriously. Anyway I have cake every day - otherwise what would be the point in living?

    Like I said, wind your activity level down a notch on your TDEE from 'moderate' to 'lightly' active, take off 20% and you'll be good to go.

    Don't be discouraged - stick with it. You can do this. You will do this. Come on! xx
  • sobriquet84
    sobriquet84 Posts: 607 Member
    It's pretty obvious that no one is actually looking at my diary and are only going back the last couple of days. That's okay, I live in the real world where people work and don't have all day everyday to obsess about what they are eating. I stay within my calories and am not losing. Like I said, if it was truly calories in/calories out I would be losing. I'm not. You people have no explanation for that in your little world, so you start attacking me for one bad day over the weekend. My husband bought me a Sara Lee cheesecake for our anniversary. We've been having the exact serving for almost a week now. It's taken that long to eat the whole thing between the two of us.
    This just makes me want to cry because I refuse to be one of those people that is constantly thinking about everything I eat. Those people are so annoying to me. I've been told time and time again that it is calories in/calories out. Is that wrong?
    I'm taking this challenge. I'm going to measure everything I eat from now on. Maybe that's where this is going wrong, although I don't think I'm eating 2196 or over a day, so I shouldn't be at maintenance. This makes no sense.

    lol, well, i looked at several weeks worth of your diary.

    if you're going to throw a tantrum, then don't ask for advice.

    by the way, i'm pretty sure most, if not all, the other people on this thread work too. you're not the only one with a job. i have a career and a family too.
  • EDesq
    EDesq Posts: 1,527 Member
    Hello all, I'm new to the forum but not to myfitnesspal. I am 5'3", 180 lbs 32 year old female. I've gained about 8 lbs this year from a low of 172 last year. I've been logging my food, and I just started a new fitness schedule with running and strength training. I'm seeing a 0 sum loss on the scale. I gain 2 lbs then lose 4 lbs then gain those 4 lbs back. If you can see my weigh-in chart you will see what I mean. What am I doing wrong? I have my goal set at 1600 calories a day because I've read on here not to eat too little. My diary is public. I would love some constructive ideas on how to get my weightloss back on track. As of right now, none of the jeans I bought last year fit and it's almost fall. :(


    I have noticed that you eat a LOT of refined (Junk). Refined items are full of salt and ingredients that "hook" you; they will NOT let you go easily. They will keep you CRAVING all types of stuff and you will not understand why. I suggest more, much more FRESH Cooked or raw fruit and veggies; you may be busy but in the end it is your Best Choice, Health-wise and for Wt Loss and maintenance.

    Also, even though you may be inside of your calorie allotment, THIS alone should tell you that a calorie is NOT a calorie...in other words all calories are NOT equal. Either care about yourself and make LIFESTYLE Changes (MOST of us WORK at a job and have an active Life) or suffer through yo-yo dieting and wt gain/loss and possible disease later in life. MAKE TIME for HEALTH!


    ETA: Learn from what YOU DO. Some people may be able to eat cake and candy and cookies everyday in moderation, that's kool for THEM, what is YOUR Body telling YOU!!! For Me, NO WAY, BUT I can eat tons of fruit and it comes right back out, and I lose wt.; What is YOUR Body telling YOU?
  • Hildy_J
    Hildy_J Posts: 1,050 Member


    lol, well, i looked at several weeks worth of your diary.

    if you're going to throw a tantrum, then don't ask for advice.

    That's just snarky and unhelpful. No need for that, why bother posting?

    The OP specified that the criticism be CONSTRUCTIVE. Yours is DESTRUCTIVE.
  • kimberlymarie30
    kimberlymarie30 Posts: 36 Member
    People are losing weight everyday by staying under their calories, working out moderately, having plenty of water and eating processed foods. People on this board are so rude up on their no processed food high horse. Especially people with closed profiles telling people how they shouldn't eat processed food when they are probably eating it too.
    Thanks Hildy. I think you are the most level headed person on here.
    I do think that my downfall is not measuring. I need to get a food scale and start doing that. I've said this a couple of times now, but everyone can only harp on how badly I eat. When I don't eat that badly at all compared to most people that are at or above my weight that I know personally, yes people I know in real life. My current supervisor drinks at least 3 cokes a day and still weighs MUCH less than I do. I've never seen her eat anything remotely healthy. This absolutely no processed foods a bunch of bunk and is just another fad.
  • kristen6022
    kristen6022 Posts: 1,923 Member
    I'm definitely not a part of the "you have to eat everything organic, fresh, non-processed", but I do live on an 80% -20% principle. I realize you don't want to constantly think about what you are eating but most people have to if they want to be a healthy weight. 80% of the time I "think" about what goes in my body (how I cook, who's cooking it, what it is, portion size...), 20% of the time I eat what I want, with in my calorie range. If I over eat, I work it off. It's an ongoing battle and maintance isn't a picnic either (reached goal in August 2012, gained 10 pounds back that I've been trying to lose for months...). It's not like you are good for 6 months, loose all the weight, and never have to think about it again. It's a forever thing and the more "good habits" you learn during this that stick, the better you'll be on the other side!

    Good luck to you. More veggies, less stuff that comes packaged, more protein, less eating out, try new recipes, cook with whole foods once in a while...
  • wilsoje74
    wilsoje74 Posts: 1,720 Member
    I eat processed food and love cheese cake! If you are not losing you just may need to lower your calories is all, and be careful about measuring. Most of us lead busy lives too. I'm a working mom of 2.

    You did ask for advice??
  • Brawly78
    Brawly78 Posts: 1 Member
    Hi!

    I went through about a week of diary and the only thing I really noticed is that you tend to eat processed food, not enough veggies and you aren't snacking enough. I try to eat every 3 hours, and on days that I exersize I shoot for about 1700 calories (but this will vary on your weight and activity level... in my experience however MyFitnessPal shoots way too low on calories). My rule of thumb, Don't eat from a package... and if you do, look at the ingredient list, if its over 5 - 7 ingredients and I don't recognize all of the ingredient... then I don't eat it. Wait, I wouldn't say I don't eat it, nobody is perfect, I just go by the 80/20 rule... 80% of the time I eat clean and I give myself 20% of the time to eat something more on chock full of preservatives, sugar and sodium just to make them edible, and they do nothing good for your body. Sorry this is really ramblie...

    I LOVE eating clean, Iv been doing it since January of this year and I have lost 36 lbs.... if you are interested in reading more about it... check this blog out and the website has great recipes as well... Eating clean takes organization and planning, but is SO worth it. Okay, I'm done.

    http://www.thegraciouspantry.com/what-is-clean-eating/

    Anna
  • sobriquet84
    sobriquet84 Posts: 607 Member
    People are losing weight everyday by staying under their calories, working out moderately, having plenty of water and eating processed foods. People on this board are so rude up on their no processed food high horse. Especially people with closed profiles telling people how they shouldn't eat processed food when they are probably eating it too.
    Thanks Hildy. I think you are the most level headed person on here.
    I do think that my downfall is not measuring. I need to get a food scale and start doing that. I've said this a couple of times now, but everyone can only harp on how badly I eat. When I don't eat that badly at all compared to most people that are at or above my weight that I know personally, yes people I know in real life. My current supervisor drinks at least 3 cokes a day and still weighs MUCH less than I do. I've never seen her eat anything remotely healthy. This absolutely no processed foods a bunch of bunk and is just another fad.

    well, i personally feel that limiting processed foods is not just "fad". processed foods only emerged in recent history. human beings are NOT MEANT to eat large amounts of processed/fake foods. but i didn't even say anything about that, i simply suggested that you should increase your protein. another thing i suggested is that you get a metabolic panel done, but i'm guessing you skimmed over that. another suggestion i would make, that i haven't made yet, is in addition to a metabolic panel get a hormone panel done. i do NOT subscribe to the whole "calories in/calories out is the only thing that has to do with weight loss" camp, and my posts have not suggested in any way shape or form that i do. if anything, i've been suggesting the opposite. if you feel something is really wrong, then go talk to your doc, not an internet message board. weighing and measuring your food would be a good place to start though, and if that doesn't yield any results then talk to a doc about getting bloodwork done to see if there is any other underlying cause.
  • EDesq
    EDesq Posts: 1,527 Member
    People are losing weight everyday by staying under their calories, working out moderately, having plenty of water and eating processed foods. People on this board are so rude up on their no processed food high horse. Especially people with closed profiles telling people how they shouldn't eat processed food when they are probably eating it too.
    Thanks Hildy. I think you are the most level headed person on here.
    I do think that my downfall is not measuring. I need to get a food scale and start doing that. I've said this a couple of times now, but everyone can only harp on how badly I eat. When I don't eat that badly at all compared to most people that are at or above my weight that I know personally, yes people I know in real life. My current supervisor drinks at least 3 cokes a day and still weighs MUCH less than I do. I've never seen her eat anything remotely healthy. This absolutely no processed foods a bunch of bunk and is just another fad.


    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: WHAT is YOUR BODY telling YOU? My Mom used to tell ask us, "If your friend jumped off of the Empire State Bldg, would YOU follow?" She was telling us to THINK for ourselves and be Independent, do what is RIGHT for us...one size does NOT fit all! YOUR Body is telling you it does NOT like junk/refined stuff, listen now or pay the piper later.

    Oh,btw, i do NOT buy "Organic", buy Local and conventional; I WASH all of My Produce with white vinegar and baking soda for at least 5 min. This is as good as "organic". But whole foods are the Healthiest and Best Choice. Clearly you are NOT here for Health but only for wt loss, but also clearly your body has another plan...follow the Intelligence of Your Body about your Body. Stop being Defensive and TRY!
  • ThriceBlessed
    ThriceBlessed Posts: 499 Member
    It seems to me you should be able to lose weight at 1600 calories a day, even though it may come off slowly. The one thing I will say though is that MFP overestimates calorie burn for many activities. Perhaps get a bodymedia arm band or a heart monitor and use the activity burn from that instead.... or just eat 1600 calories and don't eat back your exercise calories.

    Another option would be to lower your calorie goal to 1300-1400, and eat back the exercise calories so that you net that amount.

    Personally I use the bodymeda arm band, it does a really good job of tracking my burn all day and all night long. I only take it off to bathe and swim, and when I swim it allows me to manually enter the activity. It automatically adjusts MFP. So I set my MFP calories to the BMR I would have at my ideal weight. Even when I don't exercise my arm band adjusts the calories up a little since I'm not at my ideal weight, either way I aim for 1000 calorie deficit according to bodymedia, and mostly just track calories on MFP without worrying too much about the plan as spelled out on here. The bodymedia is very accurate for me, and has really opened my eyes to how much MFP and exercise machines are off when it comes to estimating calorie burn.

    If you aren't familiar with bodymedia, what I said probably makes very little sense, but if you are interested in learning more send me a private message. I don't sell bodymedia and I don't get any kind of kick back if you buy or not, I just use it and I am very happy with it, so I like to tell others about it.
  • kimberlymarie30
    kimberlymarie30 Posts: 36 Member
    I've always wondered how those body tracking systems worked. Thanks for the offer of help. I'll try to send you a message tonight so we can chat.