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  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    since i upped my protein and tried to cut back on my carbs it has helped me TREMENDOUSLY! i left the crazy plateau i was on forever.

    If the last 3 days of your diary are accurate you are eating about 30% protein. That's a far cry from the 80% the OP suggests. And your carbs are WAY over 10%.
  • Stage14
    Stage14 Posts: 1,046 Member
    I still want to see the meal plan where 70%-80% of your calories come from protein. Particularly at a 1500 to 1700 limit, since this thread is aimed at women and that seems to be a popular goal range for many women here.

    Assuming a minimum of 0.4g of fat per body weight, the highest amount of protein I could muster on a calculator on a 1600 calorie diet is ~68% protein. That leaves about 2g of carbs. LOL

    Exactly. And even then, what does the food look like on that meal plan? It's just not feasible.
  • tonynguyen75
    tonynguyen75 Posts: 418 Member
    Steak, egg whites, protein shakes with water, chicken breast.

    Edit: however unfeasible, I believe the op might have been over exaggerating with 80 percent protein. The real topic at hand is why some people believe 1g per lb of be is too much?

    My example of 68 percent protein equated to over 250g of protein I believe... For a 140lb female. Much higher than 1g per lb.
  • sobriquet84
    sobriquet84 Posts: 607 Member

    Fine...but that is not what I was asking.

    I am wanting to know why the fear for women to up their protein.....
    Why is it, when advice is given to up protein for a woman......, some will say, nah that is too much protein.

    because they don't know what they're talking about.

    the end.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,221 Member
    Look you may consider the health aspect. Protein in meats carries hormones and anti biotics - and cholestrol. It is bad for you

    Protein in shakes - is ok and as pure as steak
    Protein in nuts is the best - but in sparing amounts.

    Starch is good- rice and potatoes

    Vegetables and fruits can be eaten endlessly

    Do not eat much else without looking what is in it

    Fine...but that is not what I was asking.

    I am wanting to know why the fear for women to up their protein.....
    Why is it, when advice is given to up protein for a woman......, some will say, nah that is too much protein.
    Not to mention most of that post was misinformation.
  • sobriquet84
    sobriquet84 Posts: 607 Member
    I still want to see the meal plan where 70%-80% of your calories come from protein. Particularly at a 1500 to 1700 limit, since this thread is aimed at women and that seems to be a popular goal range for many women here.

    its POSSIBLE, but its not easy nor maintainable and is usually accompanied by an eating disorder. will very likely result in kidney issues, especially if we're talking about women.

    been there. done that. about 80% of my calories were coming from protein, and i was sticking to a 1200 calorie a day diet. it was a full blown eating disorder, and landed me in the hospital twice for severe kidney infections.

    that was a long time ago. :)

    protein = GOOD, but there is a very clear difference between "eating a good amount of protein" and obsessive compulisve behavior that is not healthy.

    I currently aim for 40%, with carbs and fat being 30% each.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    Steak, egg whites, protein shakes with water, chicken breast.

    Edit: however unfeasible, I believe the op might have been over exaggerating with 80 percent protein. The real topic at hand is why some people believe 1g per lb of be is too much?

    My example of 68 percent protein equated to over 250g of protein I believe... For a 140lb female. Much higher than 1g per lb.

    Yes, this.
    I was just throwing the idea out there......
    From reading some posts and advice to women on these boards....there always seems to be this *gasp* to the idea that women may want to up their protein while dropping their fats and carbs.

    I have viewed a few diary entries from some women.
    The common theme I see is that Carb are ~ 40 - 45%
    Fats are 30 - 35%
    And protein is 20 - 25%
    I have seen other entries where protein was below 15% and the other two higher.

    So my point is this, lets take 1500 calories....good number for most women sans exercise.
    we will do 45 - 35 - 20
    So that is
    Carbs 45% = 675 cal =169 gr
    Fats 35% = 525 cal = ~58 gr
    Protein 20% = 300 = ~75 gr

    And then you hear the same thing.....not losing weight, I am stuck, what am I doing wrong, etc.....

    So when I look at numbers like that....my thoughts are this::
    Carbs and Fats are the bulk of your calories.....I think protein should be high, and one other macro (say carbs) can be a little high....
    So change the macros to something like
    35% Carbs
    40% - 45% Protein
    25 - 20% Fats

    So that is why I am asking.....does higher protein cause the person to get fat?

    I guess in the end, it does come down to calories in vs out.
  • NonnyMary
    NonnyMary Posts: 982 Member
    OP - eggs might be what your looking for.
  • Stage14
    Stage14 Posts: 1,046 Member
    Steak, egg whites, protein shakes with water, chicken breast.

    Edit: however unfeasible, I believe the op might have been over exaggerating with 80 percent protein. The real topic at hand is why some people believe 1g per lb of be is too much?

    My example of 68 percent protein equated to over 250g of protein I believe... For a 140lb female. Much higher than 1g per lb.

    Yes, this.
    I was just throwing the idea out there......
    From reading some posts and advice to women on these boards....there always seems to be this *gasp* to the idea that women may want to up their protein while dropping their fats and carbs.

    I have viewed a few diary entries from some women.
    The common theme I see is that Carb are ~ 40 - 45%
    Fats are 30 - 35%
    And protein is 20 - 25%
    I have seen other entries where protein was below 15% and the other two higher.

    So my point is this, lets take 1500 calories....good number for most women sans exercise.
    we will do 45 - 35 - 20
    So that is
    Carbs 45% = 675 cal =169 gr
    Fats 35% = 525 cal = ~58 gr
    Protein 20% = 300 = ~75 gr

    And then you hear the same thing.....not losing weight, I am stuck, what am I doing wrong, etc.....

    So when I look at numbers like that....my thoughts are this::
    Carbs and Fats are the bulk of your calories.....I think protein should be high, and one other macro (say carbs) can be a little high....
    So change the macros to something like
    35% Carbs
    40% - 45% Protein
    25 - 20% Fats

    So that is why I am asking.....does higher protein cause the person to get fat?

    I guess in the end, it does come down to calories in vs out.

    I haven't been posting for very long, but I don't think most women are scared protein will make them fat. I'm certainly not at any rate. 40/30/30 is often recommended because it's a good balance and fairly easily maintainable for the long haul. I could eat 40 or 45 percent protein, but it would definitely increase my deficit by a few hundred calories (I'm pretty freaking full every day as it is on a 200 deficit with my current macro settings) and require more money and more planning. These things make it less sustainable for me, and thus not something I am interested in. I'm currently satisfied, losing weight and inches, and more than meeting my recommended protein requirements.

    But I do get what you're saying now, about when posters want tips to break through a plateau or lose more and then balk at the suggestion of more protein. It's like when women panic about a suggestion of weight lifting because they're convinced they will become Arnold. And I agree with your opinion, even if your suggestion is a bit over the top. I think fearing any food group is silly, especially protein.
  • james6998
    james6998 Posts: 743 Member
    Tuna
    Fat=1g
    Carbs=0
    sugar=0
    protein=28-32g depending on source
    would be the magic protein source, problem would be if you choose this route you would probably end up with some mercury issues, lol.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    I am saying keeping your daily caloric intake the same....but the make up of the calories now shift to High Protein, mid to low Fat and carbs.
    Say 80% - 10% - 10%

    You mean like a can of tuna? eg Cloverleaf Skipjack -> P: 15g, C: 1g, F: 0g.
  • NaomiLyn15
    NaomiLyn15 Posts: 388 Member
    For me, I am not a big meat eater, and didn't really ever consider protein important. When I found out I was insulin resistant, i had to reevaluate what I ate. I switched to a high veggie, low protein and low carb diet. Let me tell you, that doesn't really work. lol. Once I started working with my trainer I upped my protein to a little under a gram per lb of lean body weight. I have never felt better. I am always full, I don't crave sweets anymore, and I never feel tired. Its amazing. I wish I had realized before that protein would do that for me, and that I didn't have to eat only meat to hit my protein goals.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member

    But I do get what you're saying now, about when posters want tips to break through a plateau or lose more and then balk at the suggestion of more protein. It's like when women panic about a suggestion of weight lifting because they're convinced they will become Arnold. And I agree with your opinion, even if your suggestion is a bit over the top. I think fearing any food group is silly, especially protein.

    Yes. ^^^This
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    For me, I am not a big meat eater, and didn't really ever consider protein important. When I found out I was insulin resistant, i had to reevaluate what I ate. I switched to a high veggie, low protein and low carb diet. Let me tell you, that doesn't really work. lol. Once I started working with my trainer I upped my protein to a little under a gram per lb of lean body weight. I have never felt better. I am always full, I don't crave sweets anymore, and I never feel tired. Its amazing. I wish I had realized before that protein would do that for me, and that I didn't have to eat only meat to hit my protein goals.

    For me....I could eat Chkn Breast, and in 15 min I am hungry....if not sooner.
    I could get sick of egg whites long before I feel full off them.
    Even now, when I have chkn breast, a sweet potato, and some broccoli, I will still feel hungry in about 30 min.

    The only time I really feel satiated is when I have down something like bread or some really crap carbby food.

    Like yesterday.....that was my "rest" day....so lower carbs on that day, my protein high, and I up my fats.
    So for lunch I got sushi (sashimi specifically)......I had 20 pieces of various fish.....I ate one small lump of rice with it.
    I still felt hungry within 30 min of eating.
    So I got a cup of coffee and put some coffee-mate creamer in it....that helped satisfy me.....

    So I am envious of people who say protein satiates them.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    I am saying keeping your daily caloric intake the same....but the make up of the calories now shift to High Protein, mid to low Fat and carbs.
    Say 80% - 10% - 10%

    You mean like a can of tuna? eg Cloverleaf Skipjack -> P: 15g, C: 1g, F: 0g.

    Yeah but as james pointed out, you would prolly die from mercury poisoning... :laugh: :laugh:

    But I am thinking no matter how much of that you ate.....chances of you getting fat from it, are slim to none.