Am i wasting my time in the gym doing weights?
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I did machine weights for the last year while cutting.
I got stronger, not weaker. My muscles got better defined due to a combination of cutting the fat off them and the 'pump'. My body fat dropped at almost the same rate as my overall mass - meaning I lost very little lean mass (some loss is almost inevitable when cutting, however).
***Stop reading now if you absolutely closed your mind to the possibility of free weights.***
I've just started free weights. My goal also is not to build excess bulk, but to get stronger. I work in the 5 rep range for precisely that reason. I, too, do a lot of running and it's becoming increasingly important to me.
What am I getting that I didn't get before? First my workouts are a lot faster. By using compound lifts I don't need to do dozens upon dozens of reps of various exercise. Second I am working my stabilizer muscles now, which I wasn't before. I can lift much less with free weights than with machines. What does this tell me? It tells me that by lifting free weights I am going to get more stable on my feet, which will help my running, and will reduce the chance of injury.
By the way, people will be much more likely to help you if you can that stinky attitude you are taking with people trying to give you genuine advice.
I have this thing where i prefer people to actually read my posts and reply to what i am asking, i do the same to others it just stops people wasting their time
for the umpteenth time i asked if the weight machines i was using would be beneficial to what i wanted to achieve which wasnt a great deal
simple really but some seen determined to give me advice that i didnt ask for like you have just done, your first part was helpful, if you asked me how to change a car tyre and i told you how to change a headlight bulb that would be a waste of time, but thanks for mentioning the free weights again just in case i missed it the other times
You're a very rude person with a bad attitude. You understand that, right?0 -
I did machine weights for the last year while cutting.
I got stronger, not weaker. My muscles got better defined due to a combination of cutting the fat off them and the 'pump'. My body fat dropped at almost the same rate as my overall mass - meaning I lost very little lean mass (some loss is almost inevitable when cutting, however).
***Stop reading now if you absolutely closed your mind to the possibility of free weights.***
I've just started free weights. My goal also is not to build excess bulk, but to get stronger. I work in the 5 rep range for precisely that reason. I, too, do a lot of running and it's becoming increasingly important to me.
What am I getting that I didn't get before? First my workouts are a lot faster. By using compound lifts I don't need to do dozens upon dozens of reps of various exercise. Second I am working my stabilizer muscles now, which I wasn't before. I can lift much less with free weights than with machines. What does this tell me? It tells me that by lifting free weights I am going to get more stable on my feet, which will help my running, and will reduce the chance of injury.
By the way, people will be much more likely to help you if you can that stinky attitude you are taking with people trying to give you genuine advice.
I have this thing where i prefer people to actually read my posts and reply to what i am asking, i do the same to others it just stops people wasting their time
for the umpteenth time i asked if the weight machines i was using would be beneficial to what i wanted to achieve which wasnt a great deal
simple really but some seen determined to give me advice that i didnt ask for like you have just done, your first part was helpful, if you asked me how to change a car tyre and i told you how to change a headlight bulb that would be a waste of time, but thanks for mentioning the free weights again just in case i missed it the other times
You came to the thread expecting a certain answer and were upset when you didn't get that answer.
You say you have a certain amount of time to spend in the gym every week, and no more. The reality is that how you are currently choosing to spend that time is far, far less effective than how you could be spending that time.
If you open your mind to the possibility of actually changing something you're doing, instead of getting angry with the people who suggest that what you are doing is not ideal, you may hear what these people are saying.0 -
I did machine weights for the last year while cutting.
I got stronger, not weaker. My muscles got better defined due to a combination of cutting the fat off them and the 'pump'. My body fat dropped at almost the same rate as my overall mass - meaning I lost very little lean mass (some loss is almost inevitable when cutting, however).
***Stop reading now if you absolutely closed your mind to the possibility of free weights.***
I've just started free weights. My goal also is not to build excess bulk, but to get stronger. I work in the 5 rep range for precisely that reason. I, too, do a lot of running and it's becoming increasingly important to me.
What am I getting that I didn't get before? First my workouts are a lot faster. By using compound lifts I don't need to do dozens upon dozens of reps of various exercise. Second I am working my stabilizer muscles now, which I wasn't before. I can lift much less with free weights than with machines. What does this tell me? It tells me that by lifting free weights I am going to get more stable on my feet, which will help my running, and will reduce the chance of injury.
By the way, people will be much more likely to help you if you can that stinky attitude you are taking with people trying to give you genuine advice.
I have this thing where i prefer people to actually read my posts and reply to what i am asking, i do the same to others it just stops people wasting their time
for the umpteenth time i asked if the weight machines i was using would be beneficial to what i wanted to achieve which wasnt a great deal
simple really but some seen determined to give me advice that i didnt ask for like you have just done, your first part was helpful, if you asked me how to change a car tyre and i told you how to change a headlight bulb that would be a waste of time, but thanks for mentioning the free weights again just in case i missed it the other times
You're a very rude person with a bad attitude. You understand that, right?
You don't read posts properly, hardly my fault0 -
I did machine weights for the last year while cutting.
I got stronger, not weaker. My muscles got better defined due to a combination of cutting the fat off them and the 'pump'. My body fat dropped at almost the same rate as my overall mass - meaning I lost very little lean mass (some loss is almost inevitable when cutting, however).
***Stop reading now if you absolutely closed your mind to the possibility of free weights.***
I've just started free weights. My goal also is not to build excess bulk, but to get stronger. I work in the 5 rep range for precisely that reason. I, too, do a lot of running and it's becoming increasingly important to me.
What am I getting that I didn't get before? First my workouts are a lot faster. By using compound lifts I don't need to do dozens upon dozens of reps of various exercise. Second I am working my stabilizer muscles now, which I wasn't before. I can lift much less with free weights than with machines. What does this tell me? It tells me that by lifting free weights I am going to get more stable on my feet, which will help my running, and will reduce the chance of injury.
By the way, people will be much more likely to help you if you can that stinky attitude you are taking with people trying to give you genuine advice.
I have this thing where i prefer people to actually read my posts and reply to what i am asking, i do the same to others it just stops people wasting their time
for the umpteenth time i asked if the weight machines i was using would be beneficial to what i wanted to achieve which wasnt a great deal
simple really but some seen determined to give me advice that i didnt ask for like you have just done, your first part was helpful, if you asked me how to change a car tyre and i told you how to change a headlight bulb that would be a waste of time, but thanks for mentioning the free weights again just in case i missed it the other times
You're a very rude person with a bad attitude. You understand that, right?
You don't read posts properly, hardly my fault
I read posts perfectly well.
It happens that I am in almost precisely the same position as you, with similar goals and time constraints.
Foolishly, I thought to help you out by offering some sound advice based on personal experience. In exchange, you give me grief. At least I now know to avoid your future threads, and I'm sure many others will also. All the best getting further advice.0 -
Any lifting you do is better than nothing, but you're not going to stimulate enough muscle fibers with that limited routine to see much visible change in your physique.
You'll need more variety and more volume to see noticeable gains.0 -
If your body is not accustomed to weight lifting, you will gain muscle even if your on a caloric deficit; i know this from my own experience. It will work for probably the first year. After that, maybe do a a clean bulk. I hate bulking and getting shredded, I'm a stay lean all year round type of guy. And to answer your question: of course you'll see muscle gains doing weight training.0
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I did machine weights for the last year while cutting.
I got stronger, not weaker. My muscles got better defined due to a combination of cutting the fat off them and the 'pump'. My body fat dropped at almost the same rate as my overall mass - meaning I lost very little lean mass (some loss is almost inevitable when cutting, however).
***Stop reading now if you absolutely closed your mind to the possibility of free weights.***
I've just started free weights. My goal also is not to build excess bulk, but to get stronger. I work in the 5 rep range for precisely that reason. I, too, do a lot of running and it's becoming increasingly important to me.
What am I getting that I didn't get before? First my workouts are a lot faster. By using compound lifts I don't need to do dozens upon dozens of reps of various exercise. Second I am working my stabilizer muscles now, which I wasn't before. I can lift much less with free weights than with machines. What does this tell me? It tells me that by lifting free weights I am going to get more stable on my feet, which will help my running, and will reduce the chance of injury.
By the way, people will be much more likely to help you if you can that stinky attitude you are taking with people trying to give you genuine advice.
I have this thing where i prefer people to actually read my posts and reply to what i am asking, i do the same to others it just stops people wasting their time
for the umpteenth time i asked if the weight machines i was using would be beneficial to what i wanted to achieve which wasnt a great deal
simple really but some seen determined to give me advice that i didnt ask for like you have just done, your first part was helpful, if you asked me how to change a car tyre and i told you how to change a headlight bulb that would be a waste of time, but thanks for mentioning the free weights again just in case i missed it the other times
You came to the thread expecting a certain answer and were upset when you didn't get that answer.
You say you have a certain amount of time to spend in the gym every week, and no more. The reality is that how you are currently choosing to spend that time is far, far less effective than how you could be spending that time.
If you open your mind to the possibility of actually changing something you're doing, instead of getting angry with the people who suggest that what you are doing is not ideal, you may hear what these people are saying.
Last time really as my head hurts from banging it on a brick wall, go to gym during gap in shifts have 15 mins before run and 15 mins after run to do weights, the only weights available to me are the machines, my choice is machine only or nothing, i wanted to know if these were a help to me, didnt ask for anything else, it couldnt be more simpler, Not angry just bewildered that people cant see what is in black and white in front of them, if you cant or dont want to advise me fine dont
you may think my attitude is bad fair enough but not listening to people isnt a plus to ones character either0 -
I have a certain time window on those 3 days so i do 3 of those weights, run, then do the other weights, in between the upper body stuff i work my legs, i am not bothered about getting big just a bit of muscle and not losing strength with the weight loss, once i get under 13 stone i tend to look to scrawny
What you're doing is just inefficient--no other way to describe it. I do think you're wasting your time, unfortunately. If your time is truly valuable and important, you need to utilize it very wisely. You're just doing a little bit of everything, and it's just not going to get you very far. However, you do seem content with your program, and happiness is important too...so to each their own.
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Any lifting you do is better than nothing, but you're not going to stimulate enough muscle fibers with that limited routine to see much visible change in your physique.
You'll need more variety and more volume to see noticeable gains.
Thanks0 -
If your body is not accustomed to weight lifting, you will gain muscle even if your on a caloric deficit; i know this from my own experience. It will work for probably the first year. After that, maybe do a a clean bulk. I hate bulking and getting shredded, I'm a stay lean all year round type of guy. And to answer your question: of course you'll see muscle gains doing weight training.
Cheers mate something is better than nothing just wanted to know i would get something out of it0 -
I did machine weights for the last year while cutting.
I got stronger, not weaker. My muscles got better defined due to a combination of cutting the fat off them and the 'pump'. My body fat dropped at almost the same rate as my overall mass - meaning I lost very little lean mass (some loss is almost inevitable when cutting, however).
***Stop reading now if you absolutely closed your mind to the possibility of free weights.***
I've just started free weights. My goal also is not to build excess bulk, but to get stronger. I work in the 5 rep range for precisely that reason. I, too, do a lot of running and it's becoming increasingly important to me.
What am I getting that I didn't get before? First my workouts are a lot faster. By using compound lifts I don't need to do dozens upon dozens of reps of various exercise. Second I am working my stabilizer muscles now, which I wasn't before. I can lift much less with free weights than with machines. What does this tell me? It tells me that by lifting free weights I am going to get more stable on my feet, which will help my running, and will reduce the chance of injury.
By the way, people will be much more likely to help you if you can that stinky attitude you are taking with people trying to give you genuine advice.
I have this thing where i prefer people to actually read my posts and reply to what i am asking, i do the same to others it just stops people wasting their time
for the umpteenth time i asked if the weight machines i was using would be beneficial to what i wanted to achieve which wasnt a great deal
simple really but some seen determined to give me advice that i didnt ask for like you have just done, your first part was helpful, if you asked me how to change a car tyre and i told you how to change a headlight bulb that would be a waste of time, but thanks for mentioning the free weights again just in case i missed it the other times
You came to the thread expecting a certain answer and were upset when you didn't get that answer.
You say you have a certain amount of time to spend in the gym every week, and no more. The reality is that how you are currently choosing to spend that time is far, far less effective than how you could be spending that time.
If you open your mind to the possibility of actually changing something you're doing, instead of getting angry with the people who suggest that what you are doing is not ideal, you may hear what these people are saying.
Last time really as my head hurts from banging it on a brick wall, go to gym during gap in shifts have 15 mins before run and 15 mins after run to do weights, the only weights available to me are the machines, my choice is machine only or nothing, i wanted to know if these were a help to me, didnt ask for anything else, it couldnt be more simpler, Not angry just bewildered that people cant see what is in black and white in front of them, if you cant or dont want to advise me fine dont
you may think my attitude is bad fair enough but not listening to people isnt a plus to ones character either
If you asked for a coffee and were given a coffee and free pastry, would you throw it in the server's face and scream "I only asked for a coffee, b!tch!"
Just curious.0 -
I have a certain time window on those 3 days so i do 3 of those weights, run, then do the other weights, in between the upper body stuff i work my legs, i am not bothered about getting big just a bit of muscle and not losing strength with the weight loss, once i get under 13 stone i tend to look to scrawny
What you're doing is just inefficient--no other way to describe it. I do think you're wasting your time, unfortunately. If your time is truly valuable and important, you need to utilize it very wisely. You're just doing a little bit of everything, and it's just not going to get you very far. However, you do seem content with your program, and happiness is important too...so to each their own.
Not content just buggered by circunstance really, some have said i will see some change so another couple of months wont do any harm, there isnt an alternative at the moment anyhow0 -
Exercise is never a waste of time. But you should work your whole body and have some sort of plan.0
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I did machine weights for the last year while cutting.
I got stronger, not weaker. My muscles got better defined due to a combination of cutting the fat off them and the 'pump'. My body fat dropped at almost the same rate as my overall mass - meaning I lost very little lean mass (some loss is almost inevitable when cutting, however).
***Stop reading now if you absolutely closed your mind to the possibility of free weights.***
I've just started free weights. My goal also is not to build excess bulk, but to get stronger. I work in the 5 rep range for precisely that reason. I, too, do a lot of running and it's becoming increasingly important to me.
What am I getting that I didn't get before? First my workouts are a lot faster. By using compound lifts I don't need to do dozens upon dozens of reps of various exercise. Second I am working my stabilizer muscles now, which I wasn't before. I can lift much less with free weights than with machines. What does this tell me? It tells me that by lifting free weights I am going to get more stable on my feet, which will help my running, and will reduce the chance of injury.
By the way, people will be much more likely to help you if you can that stinky attitude you are taking with people trying to give you genuine advice.
I have this thing where i prefer people to actually read my posts and reply to what i am asking, i do the same to others it just stops people wasting their time
for the umpteenth time i asked if the weight machines i was using would be beneficial to what i wanted to achieve which wasnt a great deal
simple really but some seen determined to give me advice that i didnt ask for like you have just done, your first part was helpful, if you asked me how to change a car tyre and i told you how to change a headlight bulb that would be a waste of time, but thanks for mentioning the free weights again just in case i missed it the other times
You came to the thread expecting a certain answer and were upset when you didn't get that answer.
You say you have a certain amount of time to spend in the gym every week, and no more. The reality is that how you are currently choosing to spend that time is far, far less effective than how you could be spending that time.
If you open your mind to the possibility of actually changing something you're doing, instead of getting angry with the people who suggest that what you are doing is not ideal, you may hear what these people are saying.
Last time really as my head hurts from banging it on a brick wall, go to gym during gap in shifts have 15 mins before run and 15 mins after run to do weights, the only weights available to me are the machines, my choice is machine only or nothing, i wanted to know if these were a help to me, didnt ask for anything else, it couldnt be more simpler, Not angry just bewildered that people cant see what is in black and white in front of them, if you cant or dont want to advise me fine dont
you may think my attitude is bad fair enough but not listening to people isnt a plus to ones character either
If you asked for a coffee and were given a coffee and free pastry, would you throw it in the server's face and scream "I only asked for a coffee, b!tch!"
Just curious.
No but if i asked how many calories were in my coffee and they told how many were in a milkshake i would be tempted to poke them with my straw
and in fairness i did mention that part of your post was helpful, least you did answer my question unlike some who suggested several programs,creatine, a weightlifters belt, arnie dvd and creatine0 -
If you asked for a coffee and were given a coffee and free pastry, would you throw it in the server's face and scream "I only asked for a coffee, b!tch!"
Just curious.
God I hope so.0 -
No but if i asked how many calories were in my coffee and they told how many were in a milkshake i would be tempted to poke them with my straw
and in fairness i did mention that part of your post was helpful, least you did answer my question unlike some who suggested several programs,creatine, a weightlifters belt, arnie dvd and creatine
That you did, that you did.
From my perspective, I figured I'd just let you know so that in future if the opportunity arises for you to move to free weights, you'd know that someone in a similar situation was seeing more success with them than machines.
Anyway, enough internet for me for the day, I feel. Whatever route you choose, or are forced by circumstance, to take, I wish you luck.0 -
No but if i asked how many calories were in my coffee and they told how many were in a milkshake i would be tempted to poke them with my straw
and in fairness i did mention that part of your post was helpful, least you did answer my question unlike some who suggested several programs,creatine, a weightlifters belt, arnie dvd and creatine
That you did, that you did.
From my perspective, I figured I'd just let you know so that in future if the opportunity arises for you to move to free weights, you'd know that someone in a similar situation was seeing more success with them than machines.
Anyway, enough internet for me for the day, I feel. Whatever route you choose, or are forced by circumstance, to take, I wish you luck.
Thank you very much, same to you0 -
In short - NO, you are not wasting your time doing weights for 1 reason and 1 reason only - when you are on a caloric deficit to lose fat, the only way to prevent muscle loss is to do resistance training. As long as you maintain strength levels, you'll prevent the loss of lean body mass (which is essential in order to look good - if you lose too much of that, you'll just end up looking skinny). That's why weight training is CRUCIAL while losing weight. Now gaining muscle mass is a different story, but you aren't interested in that.
Also, and I know you don't seem interested in suggestions, but this is a novel one that DOESN'T"T INVOLVE FREE WEIGHTS, yet has a 100% chance of improving your results - since your limited time in the gym seems to be the issue, here's the best option for you - get a weighted vest and do weighted pushups, feet elevated weighted pushups. Also get one of those pull up bars that you can attach to your doorway and do pull-ups or even weighted pull-ups if strong enough. These are MUCH better exercises than those machines and they can be done at home. They'll go much further toward your end goal of maintaining muscle mass than the machines will, since they are closed kinetic chain exercises (where you move your body through space). They are just better exercises all around, and are far more convenient since you can do them from home anytime. Again, this is just a suggestion, and a good one, so I'm just throwing it out there since no one else has.0 -
So time-limited and only machines to use...
You can still get a reasonable workout but would suggest you do as few of the single muscle isolation moves as possible.
So for example chest press and lat pulldown will do you a lot more good in the same time than tricep extensions and bicep curls will.
If you train in a circuit training style (minimal rest, moving from push to pull, upper body to lower body...) you can pack a lot in a short time.
Is there floor space where you train? Bodyweight exercises are good.
Bars (or machine?) for dips and pull-ups?0 -
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I would like to say thank you for the individuals who took the time to post very thoughtful, helpful, and personal responses to the OP. He may not have appreciated the extra information, but I did. I'm thinking of joining a gym specifically to increase my strength training and get away from my relatively miniscule home hand weights. I love seeing other helpful posts guiding people to a good place to start, no matter how many times the question pops up in the forum.
Thanks for the positive attitude!0 -
So time-limited and only machines to use...
You can still get a reasonable workout but would suggest you do as few of the single muscle isolation moves as possible.
So for example chest press and lat pulldown will do you a lot more good in the same time than tricep extensions and bicep curls will.
If you train in a circuit training style (minimal rest, moving from push to pull, upper body to lower body...) you can pack a lot in a short time.
Is there floor space where you train? Bodyweight exercises are good.
Bars (or machine?) for dips and pull-ups?
It's not ideal but i tend to do chest press. legs, bicep curl, legs, tricep press, run, shoulder press, legs, pulldown, legs, fly
because i have to do all my weights in one session i try to give a gap between each upper body exercise, most of my leg exercises are either quads or rehab for my achilles heel which i pretty much have destroyed0 -
It's not ideal but i tend to do chest press. legs, bicep curl, legs, tricep press, run, shoulder press, legs, pulldown, legs, fly
because i have to do all my weights in one session i try to give a gap between each upper body exercise, most of my leg exercises are either quads or rehab for my achilles heel which i pretty much have destroyed
I guess I'm not seeing a huge problem with your program given that you understand it's limitations which you obviously do.
You're in the gym: good
You're lifting weights: good
You've got a variety of lifts: good
Are you doing a program that would be considered ideal? Well, probably not. And apparently not to a lot of people here who tend to be centered on the benefits of free weights and compound lifts. And there are benefits. But a waste? Hardly.
So keep doing what you are doing. Push the weights. As time goes by increase the weights. I don't see how there can be any debate that what you are doing is far, far, better than doing no lifting at all. It is certainly not a waste of time!0 -
It's not ideal but i tend to do chest press. legs, bicep curl, legs, tricep press, run, shoulder press, legs, pulldown, legs, fly
because i have to do all my weights in one session i try to give a gap between each upper body exercise, most of my leg exercises are either quads or rehab for my achilles heel which i pretty much have destroyed
I guess I'm not seeing a huge problem with your program given that you understand it's limitations which you obviously do.
You're in the gym: good
You're lifting weights: good
You've got a variety of lifts: good
Are you doing a program that would be considered ideal? Well, probably not. And apparently not to a lot of people here who tend to be centered on the benefits of free weights and compound lifts. And there are benefits. But a waste? Hardly.
So keep doing what you are doing. Push the weights. As time goes by increase the weights. I don't see how there can be any debate that what you are doing is far, far, better than doing no lifting at all. It is certainly not a waste of time!
Thanks mate, i am aware of the limitations and don't have a problem with it, if someone said i could run pain free again i would be happy with that, if this falls down i will be back asking for advice to fully commit to weights0 -
Thanks mate, i am aware of the limitations and don't have a problem with it, if someone said i could run pain free again i would be happy with that, if this falls down i will be back asking for advice to fully commit to weights
My experience is that the weight room kind of "grows" on you. You go in there, fart around for a bit, go home. No big deal, take it or leave it. Do that for several weeks/months. Blah, what's so great about this? you say.Then at some point you notice that you're lifting more than you used to. Then you start spending a little more time there. Then instead of 2 times a week, it's 3, then 4. It continues, step by step... it's an insidious process... after a while the thought of not lifting really bothers you. Addictive? Sure, at least a little bit, maybe more...0 -
Thanks mate, i am aware of the limitations and don't have a problem with it, if someone said i could run pain free again i would be happy with that, if this falls down i will be back asking for advice to fully commit to weights
My experience is that the weight room kind of "grows" on you. You go in there, fart around for a bit, go home. No big deal, take it or leave it. Do that for several weeks/months. Blah, what's so great about this? you say.Then at some point you notice that you're lifting more than you used to. Then you start spending a little more time there. Then instead of 2 times a week, it's 3, then 4. It continues, step by step... it's an insidious process... after a while the thought of not lifting really bothers you. Addictive? Sure, at least a little bit, maybe more...
I can evaluate running it is a goal for me, my mate does 10k in 55 mins so i will do it quicker that's the challenge, i used to be able to run for two hours, it is an achievement in a way , to me weight lifting is about vanity, sure we all want to look good but the effort and science behind it takes some effort, and then i read some guys with huge muscles ain't that strong which confuses me somewhat0 -
least you did answer my question unlike some who suggested several programs,creatine, a weightlifters belt, arnie dvd and creatine
No one said anything about arnie (or belts, or creatine) except you.if i had wanted to know about squats deadlifts, balancing my diet, macros, protein shakes, talking on the phone in between grunting out five reps to look like arnie etc... i would have
Realistically, you're trying to bait everyone who didn't tell you your program idea was awesome by implying that they're all idiot meatheads trying to get muscles the size of basketballs. No one even rose to that bait, you just kept getting pissier and pissier.
So here you go.
welcome to the party are you always so fashionably late? you are right no one mentioned arnie or creatine it was an exaggeration to prove a point, whoosh!!!!!!!!! i also never said meatheads or basketballs so you are as guilty as me without the panache, i also never suggested my program was awesome infact i would say it was pretty crap
thanks for the contribution though it was a laugh, please do comeback when you reach my level i like your attitude, ballsy but dumb0 -
I am so glad you got something out of reading this thread and appreciate the posts that others have kindly given their time to make. Unlike the OP, who clearly must be the center of the universe, or he would realize that there are other readers out there who will get something out of the bonus information that was provided. Congratulations, you know how to Internet correctly! :drinker:I would like to say thank you for the individuals who took the time to post very thoughtful, helpful, and personal responses to the OP. He may not have appreciated the extra information, but I did. I'm thinking of joining a gym specifically to increase my strength training and get away from my relatively miniscule home hand weights. I love seeing other helpful posts guiding people to a good place to start, no matter how many times the question pops up in the forum.
Thanks for the positive attitude!0 -
Well, one of us figured out a weight routine that can actually accomplish something. The other came up with a program that was "pretty crap." Once you've unbunched your running shorts, maybe you can learn a better one.i like your attitude, ballsy but dumb
Oh, and I don't have any balls. Maybe that's the one thing you and I can have in common.
That was just mean, i am know so insecure i have given up running and have just eaten a hot fudge chocolate cake with double cream
your feisty by the way0 -
not with that routine you won't. aside from basic noob gains assuming you have a proper diet.chest press,bicep curl,shoulder press,tricep,pulldown and fly
I workout mon wed fri and although i can lift more weight than when i started i am wondering if i will see any benefit in terms of gaining muscle
If you want to actually build muscle, get on a real beginner template like SS, SL, NROL. Then graduate to a more intermediate template like WSFSB or PHAT or 5/3/1
I don't really agree... back when I first started and I was lifting like a noob, I obviously didn't gain much muscle, but my body shape changed a lot. And I got tighter. Now I saw the most changes with my legs but still. Noob lifting is better than no lifting. 0
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