Top 10 Reasons to avoid soy at all costs

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  • eblakes93
    eblakes93 Posts: 372 Member
    Eh.

    I eat soy (besides what is in my processed cafeteria food that I don't know about) infrequently - tofu every once in a while, usually if I'm having a thai food.

    Do I trust Monsanto? No.

    Have I read anything that would convince me to cut out all soy forever? No.

    I think moderation is key.
  • bhsishtla
    bhsishtla Posts: 151 Member
    Bump.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Seeing as one of those links is Mercola, I'm just gonna say ignore it.

    I eat plenty of soy, soy is good for you. Ask the people of Asia, who eat tons of it, and tend to live much longer and healthier lives.
  • darla499
    darla499 Posts: 402 Member
    Thanks everyone. Hearing it from real people is what I am looking for.
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
    Seeing as one of those links is Mercola, I'm just gonna say ignore it.

    I eat plenty of soy, soy is good for you. Ask the people of Asia, who eat tons of it, and tend to live much longer and healthier lives.

    ^ This.

    So much of this. It seems that the popular press and the fringe "experts" (Mercola, Dr. Oz, Lustig, etc.) make their livings by spreading fear and panic by simultaneously demonizing and glorifying the most mundane of foods and marginal of products.
  • _Zardoz_
    _Zardoz_ Posts: 3,987 Member
    More dodgy science. Just because it's on the internet doesn't mean it's true or well researched. Try some critical thinking people and don't take the headlines at face value.
  • ThriftyChica12
    ThriftyChica12 Posts: 373 Member
    I eat soy almost daily:

    the only soy i have every had any problems with (gas, diarrhea, painful BMs) is CRAZILY processed soy, as in, "vegan chicken wings" or "bacon"....that stuff is awesome, and keeps me sane when i need a treat, but i pay for it the next day, and it does not feel right in my body.

    tofu? tempeh? edamame? NEVER HAD A SINGLE PROBLEM. buy organic and you're fine. these are daily staple in my diet. great source of protein....

    i can, and do, eat raw (bland) tofu straight from the block. at this point in my life, i swear it tastes like ricotta cheese....but i also think that salad greens with sesame tahini dressing "tastes like a Big Mac" (reminds me of special sauce), and i can brown rice with nutritional yeast "mac n cheez"

    ahhh, the joys of being a crazy, happy, well fed vegan :)
  • annekka
    annekka Posts: 517 Member
    I live in China right now and soy is everywhere yet people are healthy and stick thin. Fresh hot soy milk is a morning staple in the city I live in (despite the heat and humidity of daily life in the sub-tropics) and soy and soy bi-products are in everything. Yet people are healthier than anywhere else I've lived outside of the US (Northern Europe, Mexico and Morocco) which are heavy meat, dairy and grain eating countries.

    I say if Asians have been eating it in copious quantities for thousands of years and suffering from less health problems than us westerners, I'm not going to listen to some alleged food experts or the FDA who only have 100 years or less of experience.
  • Patzycakes
    Patzycakes Posts: 175 Member
    I eat soy all the time. Love it.

    Never had an issue. I eat everything from tofu to soy yogurt and all weird faux food products inbetween (although I tend to like non soy based faux meats better, they get a better texture).
  • lithezebra
    lithezebra Posts: 3,670 Member
    None of those links is a credible source. Soy isn't my favorite thing, but I like having some edamame, and tempeh is divine.
  • pan0ramic
    pan0ramic Posts: 16
    The fermented soy (tempeh, natto) recommendation is something I've heard many times over.

    Otherwise, the science might be there that soy is bad for you but it's hard to tell since I wasn't able to find the science studies from your links, and some of the links led to biased sources (those with an anti-soy agenda).

    Perhaps just best to try to go with fermented and otherwise eat soy in moderation: which always seems to be the case with all food.

    (Note: I'm vegan and eat soy daily)
  • SkinnyWannabeGal
    SkinnyWannabeGal Posts: 143 Member
    I've replaced my soy milk with almond milk a few months ago. I do still eat soy though, just in moderation. I eat natto because I know it's good for me. I eat edamame from time to time too. I substitute tofu for starches sometimes. I also drink miso soup. I would say that I went from eating soy daily to enjoying soy products once a week or once every 2 weeks. I could never completely cut it out of my diet though.
  • meeper123
    meeper123 Posts: 3,347 Member
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    meeper123 Posts: 3,347 Member
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  • rjmudlax13
    rjmudlax13 Posts: 900 Member
    Hmm...seems legit..........










    .....Nooooooot.
  • Care76
    Care76 Posts: 556 Member
    I do not like soy and I personally don't think it is healthy for us. That said, I think it is the processed or genetically modified soy in US and Canada that could be the problem. I get migraines whenever I eat soy (even organic soy). But for some reason when I was in Mexico I ate soy and it didn't bother me. Leads me to believe in other countries it isn't as harmful and actually healthy.
  • lithezebra
    lithezebra Posts: 3,670 Member
    ...I think it is the processed or genetically modified soy in US and Canada that could be the problem. I get migraines whenever I eat soy (even organic soy). But for some reason when I was in Mexico I ate soy and it didn't bother me. Leads me to believe in other countries it isn't as harmful and actually healthy.

    I don't agree with you. However, you can be sure that you aren't eating GM soy in the U.S., by buying certified organic soy products - easy solution.
  • AccioHotBod
    AccioHotBod Posts: 44 Member
    One of the articles cited as "evidence" against consuming soy products:

    Persistent sexual arousal syndrome associated with increased soy intake.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16422864?dopt=Abstract
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
    One of the articles cited as "evidence" against consuming soy products:

    Persistent sexual arousal syndrome associated with increased soy intake.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16422864?dopt=Abstract

    cue the posts from wives complaining about their husbands' sudden interest in force feeding them tofu . . .
  • NonnyMary
    NonnyMary Posts: 982 Member
    i love tahini over chicken shwarma, and did not realize it was soy... its the only thing i like.

    I dont wish to read all 10 links to find out if tahini is gonna hurt me, but by the rest of you all's answers, I think I will continue to eat tahini as much as I want.
  • lithezebra
    lithezebra Posts: 3,670 Member
    i love tahini over chicken shwarma, and did not realize it was soy... its the only thing i like.

    I dont wish to read all 10 links to find out if tahini is gonna hurt me, but by the rest of you all's answers, I think I will continue to eat tahini as much as I want.

    Where I come from, tahini is sesame seeds. A soy version would be lower fat.
  • rjmudlax13
    rjmudlax13 Posts: 900 Member
    One of the articles cited as "evidence" against consuming soy products:

    Persistent sexual arousal syndrome associated with increased soy intake.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16422864?dopt=Abstract

    cue the posts from wives complaining about their husbands' sudden interest in force feeding them tofu . . .

    *runs to grocery store to buy every soy product on the shelves*
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    I don't touch the stuff...except for soy sauce...otherwise...nasty.
  • darla499
    darla499 Posts: 402 Member
    cue the posts from wives complaining about their husbands' sudden interest in force feeding them tofu . . .

    LOL!
  • Deipneus
    Deipneus Posts: 1,854 Member
    If I stopped eating all the things various people tell me to stop eating, I'd starve. That's just not a good look for me.
  • Patzycakes
    Patzycakes Posts: 175 Member
    If you eat. You eat soy (for the most part)

    Other Names for Soy
    Soy is a common ingredient in many Asian cuisines, and may be identified by its name in other languages. Some of the names for soy are:

    •Bean curd
    •Bean sprouts
    •Edamame (fresh soybeans)
    •Kinako
    •Miso (fermented soybean paste)
    •Natto
    •Nimame
    •Okara
    •Shoyu
    •Soy sauce
    •Soya
    •Soybean (curds, granules)
    •Tamari
    •Tempeh
    •Tofu (dofu, kori-dofu)
    •Yuba
    Soy Ingredients
    Ingredients on a label are not always recognizable as soy. These ingredients are created from soy that has been processed in some way:

    •Hydrolyzed soy protein (HSP)
    •Mono- and di-glycerides
    •MSG (monosodium glutamate)
    •Soy (albumin, cheese, fiber, grits, milk, nuts, sprouts, yogurt, ice cream, pasta)
    •Soy lecithin (see above)
    •Soy protein (concentrate, hydrolyzed, isolate)
    •Soybean oil (see above)
    •Teriyaki sauce
    •Textured vegetable protein (TVP)
    Possible Soy Ingredients
    These ingredients may or may not contain soy. Call the manufacturer of the product of interest to find out the source of the ingredient.

    •Bulking agent
    •Hydrolyzed plant protein (HPP) or hydrolyzed vegetable protein (HVP)
    •Gum arabic
    •Guar gum
    •Lecithin
    •Mixed tocopherols
    •Natural flavoring
    •Stabilizer
    •Thickener
    •Vegetable gum, starch, shortening, or oil
    •Vitamin E
    Foods That May Contain Soy
    These foods often contain soy. You should be extra cautious about eating these foods if you are unable to get a complete ingredient list.

    •Asian cuisine (Korean, Japanese, Thai, Chinese, etc.)
    •Baked goods and baking mixes
    •Bouillon cubes
    •Candy
    •Cereal
    •Chicken (raw or cooked) that is processed with chicken broth
    •Chicken broth
    •Chocolate
    •Deli meats
    •Energy bars, nutrition bars
    •Imitation dairy foods, such as soy milks, vegan cheese, or vegan ice cream
    •Infant formula
    •Margarine
    •Mayonnaise
    •Meat products with fillers, for example, burgers or sausages
    •Nutrition supplements (vitamins)
    •Peanut butter and peanut butter substitutes
    •Protein powders
    •Sauces, gravies, and soups
    •Smoothies
    •Vegetable broth
    •Vegetarian meat substitutes: veggie burgers, imitation chicken patties, imitation lunch meats, imitation bacon bits, etc.


    *source
    http://foodallergies.about.com/od/soyallergies/a/List-Of-Soy-Ingredients-To-Avoid-When-Following-A-Soy-Free-Diet.htm

    (sorry don't know how to post links in here)
  • NonnyMary
    NonnyMary Posts: 982 Member
    i love tahini over chicken shwarma, and did not realize it was soy... its the only thing i like.

    I dont wish to read all 10 links to find out if tahini is gonna hurt me, but by the rest of you all's answers, I think I will continue to eat tahini as much as I want.

    Where I come from, tahini is sesame seeds. A soy version would be lower fat.

    oh no wonder i like it.. where did i get the impression it was made of soy? thank you for clarifying! I thought that it was a soy product (it sorta looks like soy milk)... and i thought i was eating something of soy :)
  • lithezebra
    lithezebra Posts: 3,670 Member
    i love tahini over chicken shwarma, and did not realize it was soy... its the only thing i like.

    I dont wish to read all 10 links to find out if tahini is gonna hurt me, but by the rest of you all's answers, I think I will continue to eat tahini as much as I want.

    Where I come from, tahini is sesame seeds. A soy version would be lower fat.



    oh no wonder i like it.. where did i get the impression it was made of soy? thank you for clarifying! I thought that it was a soy product (it sorta looks like soy milk)... and i thought i was eating something of soy :)
    Tahini is tasty stuff. I love it in baba ganoush, and on falafel. Have you tried edamame, lightly steamed fresh (or frozen) soybeans, with a little salt? They're not at all like tofu or other processed forms of soy.
  • MikaMojito
    MikaMojito Posts: 680 Member
    Everything is unhealthy and will kill me eventually. Meat, dairy, soy... If I like it, I'll eat it.
  • highervibes
    highervibes Posts: 2,219 Member
    One of the articles cited as "evidence" against consuming soy products:

    Persistent sexual arousal syndrome associated with increased soy intake.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16422864?dopt=Abstract

    I need more soy in my life lol

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