TDEE for Indians?

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I know the healthy BMI upper range is 23 for Indians as opposed to 25 which is the global standard. Is there something like that for TDEE as well? My TDEE is around 1400-1600 but 1400 cals makes me quite full and heavy.. 1200 cals seems enough for me. I am 5ft tall and I weight 55.7kg now (122-123lbs)
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  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
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    :noway: this confused me too :laugh:
    Not sure why that would be....

    eta:....scratches head, wonder if it's too early for gifs...
  • sola24
    sola24 Posts: 334 Member
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    Indians have a high diabetes rate and also the tendency to put on fat around the middle.. hence the adjustment is specially made for indians.. according to world standard I am in healthy weight range.. but as an Indian I am not. And I have a lot of midsection fat which just refuses to go away.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
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    eta:....scratches head, wonder if it's too early for gifs...

    its NEVER too early for gifs!!!!!!
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
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    Indians have a high diabetes rate and also the tendency to put on fat around the middle.. hence the adjustment is specially made for indians.. according to world standard I am in healthy weight range.. but as an Indian I am not. And I have a lot of midsection fat which just refuses to go away.

    OK...even MORE confusion here..
    <<<<<Indian WITH T2D and I've been losing using the very same calculations that my non-Indian counterparts are as long as all things are remaining equal (meaning my blood glucose doesn't measure higher than 110ish mg/dl more often than not).
  • sola24
    sola24 Posts: 334 Member
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    I was confused coz different formulas will calculate it differently.. Just wanted to know if there is anything specific like the BMI thing.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
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    I was confused coz different formulas will calculate it differently.. Just wanted to know if there is anything specific like the BMI thing.

    Noooooo....

    scooby is generally recommended for TDEE calculations.
  • V0lver
    V0lver Posts: 915 Member
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    Indians have a high diabetes rate and also the tendency to put on fat around the middle.. hence the adjustment is specially made for indians.. according to world standard I am in healthy weight range.. but as an Indian I am not. And I have a lot of midsection fat which just refuses to go away.

    OK...even MORE confusion here..
    <<<<<Indian WITH T2D and I've been losing using the very same calculations that my non-Indian counterparts are as long as all things are remaining equal (meaning my blood glucose doesn't measure higher than 110ish mg/dl more often than not).

    ^ this. i am an Indian and couldn't agree more.
  • HealthyVitamins
    HealthyVitamins Posts: 432 Member
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    To answer your question, no there isn't a special TDEE for Indians.
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
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    Indians have a high diabetes rate and also the tendency to put on fat around the middle.. hence the adjustment is specially made for indians.. according to world standard I am in healthy weight range.. but as an Indian I am not. And I have a lot of midsection fat which just refuses to go away.

    but why would your TDEE be any different just because you are indian?

    yes...your TDEE would be different depending upon your activity level, not your ethnicity :ohwell:
    If there's diabetes in your family, and you carry weight around your tummy mostly, I recommend going to bloodsugar101.com and clicking on the tab 'the pattern in which diabetes develops'. Then click on the tab 'you did not eat your way to diabetes'.

    The second tab will explain how the genetic component affects and you can better access your risk, then decide whether it's necessary to cut starchy foods, which incidentally is the best way to tackle high blood sugar regulation issues using diet.
  • Colbyandsage
    Colbyandsage Posts: 751 Member
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    BMI and TDEE are 2 completely different things. TDEE is the amount of calories you burn in a day, BMI is simply a measurement of weight/ height. There are a lot of variables that will increase/ decrease your TDEE such as muscle and activity level but I doubt ethicality has anything to do with it.

    As for you calorie level, 1400-1500 is on the low side. Are you exercising? I run a lot so I would be starving at 1400 calories! I am 5'3. If you are maybe you need to take in more calorie dense foods. I have not looked at diary.
  • igotabulletproofheart
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    TDEE has nothing to do with the BMI and doesn't work like it.

    Your TDEE is essentially the amount of energy (calories) you use in a day. If you want to lose weight, eat less than this number. Simples.
  • emergencytennis
    emergencytennis Posts: 864 Member
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    BMI and TDEE are 2 completely different things. TDEE is the amount of calories you burn in a day, BMI is simply a measurement of weight/ height. There are a lot of variables that will increase/ decrease your TDEE such as muscle and activity level but I doubt ethicality has anything to do with it.

    As for you calorie level, 1400-1500 is on the low side. Are you exercising? I run a lot so I would be starving at 1400 calories! I am 5'3. If you are maybe you need to take in more calorie dense foods. I have not looked at diary.

    Ethicality has everything to do with TDEE, sloth and gluttony for starters!
  • reach4thestar
    reach4thestar Posts: 174 Member
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    As others have stated there is no different calculations to calculate tdee based on ethnicity. ...I am an indian and following the tdee calculations as others....so relax......if you feel full at 1200 just make sure you are properly weighing your food...with indian foods, portion control could be tricky unless its weighed and taken into consideration all the ingredients that go into it....so when you think 1200 it might not actually be 1200 but more than that. .....:flowerforyou:
  • jenilla1
    jenilla1 Posts: 11,118 Member
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    ...your TDEE would be different depending upon your activity level, not your ethnicity...

    Agreed.

    Also agree that risk factors for certain diseases vary by ethnicity so BMI recommendations may vary as well. But since TDEE is a totally different concept based on energy expenditure, it should be the same standards for everyone. Select yours according to your activity level. :flowerforyou:
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,394 MFP Moderator
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    I know the healthy BMI upper range is 23 for Indians as opposed to 25 which is the global standard. Is there something like that for TDEE as well? My TDEE is around 1400-1600 but 1400 cals makes me quite full and heavy.. 1200 cals seems enough for me. I am 5ft tall and I weight 55.7kg now (122-123lbs)

    How are you calculating your TDEE? Because even if your sedentary and do NOT work out, then your TDEE would probably be closer to 1650 calories. If you walk a lot or exercise it would be higher. TDEE is individualize to each person and it not based on ethnicity. Now your BMR could be lower than the average person if you have less lean body mass and more body fat than the average person that is 5'2.


    But the bigger question is, do you exercise? Do you want to open your diary?
  • rprr
    rprr Posts: 28 Member
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    Apologies for resurrecting this thread. In a paper from last year (2016), the studies seem to show that Asian Indians have a lower REE when compared with others due to differences in sizes of high metabolic rate organs.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26568151
  • PaulaWallaDingDong
    PaulaWallaDingDong Posts: 4,641 Member
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    BMI and TDEE are 2 completely different things. TDEE is the amount of calories you burn in a day, BMI is simply a measurement of weight/ height. There are a lot of variables that will increase/ decrease your TDEE such as muscle and activity level but I doubt ethicality has anything to do with it.

    As for you calorie level, 1400-1500 is on the low side. Are you exercising? I run a lot so I would be starving at 1400 calories! I am 5'3. If you are maybe you need to take in more calorie dense foods. I have not looked at diary.

    Ethicality has everything to do with TDEE, sloth and gluttony for starters!

    *snort* I know this is old but this made me lol.