Gen Y yuppies unhappy
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I burst out laughing so many times during that article... Yup, the GYPSY's are generally spoiled and entitled (that also points the finger at the generation who raised them). And the ones that I know that are raising children, are raising ever more entitled little monsters. The future is grim indeed.
Kids are entitled little buggers to begin with. It is their default setting and must be beaten out of them.
I know that this is kind of a joke, but there is a lot of truth in those words.
The only joke to me was the beating. My kids are self centered because it is their natural state. It is our job as parents to teach them empathy and how to operate in a society.0 -
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Welcome to the thread. Dr. Freud! lolI burst out laughing so many times during that article... Yup, the GYPSY's are generally spoiled and entitled (that also points the finger at the generation who raised them). And the ones that I know that are raising children, are raising ever more entitled little monsters. The future is grim indeed.
Kids are entitled little buggers to begin with. It is their default setting and must be beaten out of them.
I know that this is kind of a joke, but there is a lot of truth in those words.
The only joke to me was the beating. My kids are self centered because it is their natural state. It is our job as parents to teach them empathy and how to operate in a society.0 -
I wish to apologize on behalf of my generation. Not all of us are like this.
I was taught a saying "anything worth having is worth working for." I still believe that to this day, and so does my husband. And we are raising our child to have this value too. :happy:0 -
The way you are saying this though makes it sound like the older generations had a much greater sense of entitlement than we do.
Personally, I think they do in their own way. Post world war GI expected to come back home and be given a job. The housing market boomed because the government was pumping money for lower mortgage rates for families. The government pushed the ideal of a return to normalization after the war, start a family, go to school, buy a home, build America build build! Interstate projects through the country, public works programs, infrastructure programs.
When my baby boomer step father was going to school (although he vehemently denies this) we were in a cold war, and the government actually started to invest more money into math and science. Colleges opened more engineering programs during this time period. He got a job as a nuclear engineer working for the government. Let's not forget that during the 70's and 80's they called these the ME! decades. Once again, they expected there to be jobs and that they would have pensions like their father when retiring.
The gen Y generation is a generation that actually expects less than previous generations despite wanting more from our celebrity, media focused culture.0 -
Welcome to the thread. Dr. Freud! lolI burst out laughing so many times during that article... Yup, the GYPSY's are generally spoiled and entitled (that also points the finger at the generation who raised them). And the ones that I know that are raising children, are raising ever more entitled little monsters. The future is grim indeed.
Kids are entitled little buggers to begin with. It is their default setting and must be beaten out of them.
I know that this is kind of a joke, but there is a lot of truth in those words.
The only joke to me was the beating. My kids are self centered because it is their natural state. It is our job as parents to teach them empathy and how to operate in a society.0 -
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Nice link.
Give it a read and try the quiz if you are curious0 -
You know, when I came out of college, the economy was pretty stinking bad, too. And every year for as far back as I can remember, in April-July, the news has always been filled with, "The job market for new grads SSSSUUUUCCCKKKKKSSSSS!!!!!"
I don't feel like this is that new. I worked briefly for an attorney in 2001 who represented banks foreclosing on houses and that one attorney took on literally 900 new foreclosure cases in a single month. It was a terrible, terrible economy and it was the economy in which I had to make my post-grad way. I had that job (it was awful) and before that, I worked in medical records for a neurology practice. I wasn't using my degree and I made crap.
I ended up going to a job at a small weekly newspaper that requred a degree and paid less than the two previous jobs. But it got me the experience I needed to move up to where I am now, which is a helluva a lot farther than I was 12 years ago.
Is the job market kinda lousy? Sure. But as it always was, you can't expect to start at the top and a lot of kids in this generation (not all) do expect to do just that. They expect the six-figure salary and huge house right out of college. No generation before got that.
I suppose I'd be a GYPSY, but I have no expectation of entering the workforce at any particular salary. The fact of the matter is, I've applied for jobs well below (minimum wage) and slightly above what I "think" I'm worth and....nothing. Two years of nothing.
The job market is well beyond "kinda lousy".0 -
Nice link.
Give it a read and try the quiz if you are curious
Interesting stats. I scored a 35 on the quiz... pretty much in line with my own Generation.0 -
Nice link.
Give it a read and try the quiz if you are curious
I scored an 89.0 -
The main reason why Gen Y kids are unhappy is not because they think they're special so much as the economy sucks for most of them. Our economy is more and more just a handful of big winners and the rest getting nothing.
Yet most Gen Y kids own $90 a month smartphones that cost at least $200 up front, $500+ HD televisions, several video game systems, a laptop, a desktop, a tablet, etc etc etc. Of course the economy sucks though because after buying all those things they can only afford a used car that's two years old instead of a brand new one.
It's not really fair to use the cost of technology that didn't exist for the previous generations as an example of their character flaws. Inflation accounts for a lot here. I mean, for the baby-boomers, a car could be purchased for a half or even a fraction of the price that it costs now.0 -
Could be the economy or could be you.You know, when I came out of college, the economy was pretty stinking bad, too. And every year for as far back as I can remember, in April-July, the news has always been filled with, "The job market for new grads SSSSUUUUCCCKKKKKSSSSS!!!!!"
I don't feel like this is that new. I worked briefly for an attorney in 2001 who represented banks foreclosing on houses and that one attorney took on literally 900 new foreclosure cases in a single month. It was a terrible, terrible economy and it was the economy in which I had to make my post-grad way. I had that job (it was awful) and before that, I worked in medical records for a neurology practice. I wasn't using my degree and I made crap.
I ended up going to a job at a small weekly newspaper that requred a degree and paid less than the two previous jobs. But it got me the experience I needed to move up to where I am now, which is a helluva a lot farther than I was 12 years ago.
Is the job market kinda lousy? Sure. But as it always was, you can't expect to start at the top and a lot of kids in this generation (not all) do expect to do just that. They expect the six-figure salary and huge house right out of college. No generation before got that.
I suppose I'd be a GYPSY, but I have no expectation of entering the workforce at any particular salary. The fact of the matter is, I've applied for jobs well below (minimum wage) and slightly above what I "think" I'm worth and....nothing. Two years of nothing.
The job market is well beyond "kinda lousy".
Honestly, I was part of the hiring process for a position here last year and the resumes we got were a joke. Most of them were from "professionals" with a lot of experience. We pulled 11 resumes out of what was submitted and TWO people got interviews. Not because we didn't want to interview other people, but because the resumes were simply awful.
It was a position for a writer. Almost every resume came from someone who wasn't a writer and had no experience writing. And they were full of both terrible typos and just plain terrible writing. A few didn't know the basics of style (like writing out numbers one-nine and using numerals for 10 and above).
I suggest you get your resume and cover letters looked at by someone who knows what he or she is doing and also make sure you're following-up with every one you send out.
I had my resume done professionally when I left college and I think that made a huge difference.0 -
People also lived comfortably on $140 a month. Salaries have increased with the COL. And you can still get a decent car for not a ton of money if you're willing to look at something that isn't a Mercedes or BMW. Not that everyone wants that, but I know people who won't drive anything else, regardless of what they can afford.The main reason why Gen Y kids are unhappy is not because they think they're special so much as the economy sucks for most of them. Our economy is more and more just a handful of big winners and the rest getting nothing.
Yet most Gen Y kids own $90 a month smartphones that cost at least $200 up front, $500+ HD televisions, several video game systems, a laptop, a desktop, a tablet, etc etc etc. Of course the economy sucks though because after buying all those things they can only afford a used car that's two years old instead of a brand new one.
It's not really fair to use the cost of technology that didn't exist for the previous generations as an example of their character flaws. Inflation accounts for a lot here. I mean, for the baby-boomers, a car could be purchased for a half or even a fraction of the price that it costs now.0 -
Yep, that was pretty accurate for me. Interesting quiz!0 -
People also lived comfortably on $140 a month. Salaries have increased with the COL. And you can still get a decent car for not a ton of money if you're willing to look at something that isn't a Mercedes or BMW. Not that everyone wants that, but I know people who won't drive anything else, regardless of what they can afford.The main reason why Gen Y kids are unhappy is not because they think they're special so much as the economy sucks for most of them. Our economy is more and more just a handful of big winners and the rest getting nothing.
Yet most Gen Y kids own $90 a month smartphones that cost at least $200 up front, $500+ HD televisions, several video game systems, a laptop, a desktop, a tablet, etc etc etc. Of course the economy sucks though because after buying all those things they can only afford a used car that's two years old instead of a brand new one.
It's not really fair to use the cost of technology that didn't exist for the previous generations as an example of their character flaws. Inflation accounts for a lot here. I mean, for the baby-boomers, a car could be purchased for a half or even a fraction of the price that it costs now.
The point was using the amount of money that Gen-Y is willing to spend on various luxuries isn't a fair example of their "entitlement" mentality.0 -
Could be the economy or could be you.You know, when I came out of college, the economy was pretty stinking bad, too. And every year for as far back as I can remember, in April-July, the news has always been filled with, "The job market for new grads SSSSUUUUCCCKKKKKSSSSS!!!!!"
I don't feel like this is that new. I worked briefly for an attorney in 2001 who represented banks foreclosing on houses and that one attorney took on literally 900 new foreclosure cases in a single month. It was a terrible, terrible economy and it was the economy in which I had to make my post-grad way. I had that job (it was awful) and before that, I worked in medical records for a neurology practice. I wasn't using my degree and I made crap.
I ended up going to a job at a small weekly newspaper that requred a degree and paid less than the two previous jobs. But it got me the experience I needed to move up to where I am now, which is a helluva a lot farther than I was 12 years ago.
Is the job market kinda lousy? Sure. But as it always was, you can't expect to start at the top and a lot of kids in this generation (not all) do expect to do just that. They expect the six-figure salary and huge house right out of college. No generation before got that.
I suppose I'd be a GYPSY, but I have no expectation of entering the workforce at any particular salary. The fact of the matter is, I've applied for jobs well below (minimum wage) and slightly above what I "think" I'm worth and....nothing. Two years of nothing.
The job market is well beyond "kinda lousy".
Honestly, I was part of the hiring process for a position here last year and the resumes we got were a joke. Most of them were from "professionals" with a lot of experience. We pulled 11 resumes out of what was submitted and TWO people got interviews. Not because we didn't want to interview other people, but because the resumes were simply awful.
It was a position for a writer. Almost every resume came from someone who wasn't a writer and had no experience writing. And they were full of both terrible typos and just plain terrible writing. A few didn't know the basics of style (like writing out numbers one-nine and using numerals for 10 and above).
I suggest you get your resume and cover letters looked at by someone who knows what he or she is doing and also make sure you're following-up with every one you send out.
I had my resume done professionally when I left college and I think that made a huge difference.
I've considered getting my resume done professionally, but right now it's not really an option. And I seriously doubt my "crappy resume" is keeping me from getting minimum wage, low-skill jobs like, say, cashier at Wal-Mart.
I know how to job search, I've been in the work force for 10 years. I don't apply for jobs that I'm not qualified for, and I'm certainly not the only person having issues finding work. The numbers tell that story.0 -
But you can get a non-smart phone for $25 and a cheap talk or talk and text plan (no Internet access). Complaining about being broke while paying for the Cadillac of phones and plans is a bit entitled, I think.
People also lived comfortably on $140 a month. Salaries have increased with the COL. And you can still get a decent car for not a ton of money if you're willing to look at something that isn't a Mercedes or BMW. Not that everyone wants that, but I know people who won't drive anything else, regardless of what they can afford.The main reason why Gen Y kids are unhappy is not because they think they're special so much as the economy sucks for most of them. Our economy is more and more just a handful of big winners and the rest getting nothing.
Yet most Gen Y kids own $90 a month smartphones that cost at least $200 up front, $500+ HD televisions, several video game systems, a laptop, a desktop, a tablet, etc etc etc. Of course the economy sucks though because after buying all those things they can only afford a used car that's two years old instead of a brand new one.
It's not really fair to use the cost of technology that didn't exist for the previous generations as an example of their character flaws. Inflation accounts for a lot here. I mean, for the baby-boomers, a car could be purchased for a half or even a fraction of the price that it costs now.
The point was using the amount of money that Gen-Y is willing to spend on various luxuries isn't a fair example of their "entitlement" mentality.0 -
Too much reading. Liked the pictures, though.
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But you can get a non-smart phone for $25 and a cheap talk or talk and text plan (no Internet access). Complaining about being broke while paying for the Cadillac of phones and plans is a bit entitled, I think.
People also lived comfortably on $140 a month. Salaries have increased with the COL. And you can still get a decent car for not a ton of money if you're willing to look at something that isn't a Mercedes or BMW. Not that everyone wants that, but I know people who won't drive anything else, regardless of what they can afford.The main reason why Gen Y kids are unhappy is not because they think they're special so much as the economy sucks for most of them. Our economy is more and more just a handful of big winners and the rest getting nothing.
Yet most Gen Y kids own $90 a month smartphones that cost at least $200 up front, $500+ HD televisions, several video game systems, a laptop, a desktop, a tablet, etc etc etc. Of course the economy sucks though because after buying all those things they can only afford a used car that's two years old instead of a brand new one.
It's not really fair to use the cost of technology that didn't exist for the previous generations as an example of their character flaws. Inflation accounts for a lot here. I mean, for the baby-boomers, a car could be purchased for a half or even a fraction of the price that it costs now.
The point was using the amount of money that Gen-Y is willing to spend on various luxuries isn't a fair example of their "entitlement" mentality.
Ah, but that's a demographic issue, and not really an example of the whole of Gen-Y.0 -
People are always anxious to call the younger generation lazy and entitled, but as a Gen Xer myself, I think the Y's are getting seriously screwed. The ones I know work their *kitten* off, as hard or harder than I ever did, and their prospects are fewer.
To see Baby Boomers mocking them is particularly galling, as they had it considerably better. I mean, they could grab some semi-skilled job right out of high school and buy a house, raise a family, and reasonably expect a comfortable retirement. This younger generation gets none of that.0 -
I've seen it defined more than once. But it isn't important enough for me to keep arguing. :-)
There is a line, though. There is an official definition. I posted it earlier. 1966-1980 is Gen X. 1981 begins Gen Y.I did not think Gen Y were born in the 70's? I thought that was Gen X and Gen Y started in mid-80's?
Yeah I think Gen X is universally thought of as including all 70's babies and even a couple years into the 80's, and then Gen Y began!
There isn't an exact line. I have traits of both and I was born in 76.
Then there's the Milleniums, but I can't remember exactly when that starts. I guess if we're doing 14-year spans, 1995.
Gen·er·a·tion X
noun
noun: Generation X; plural noun: Generation Xs
1.
the generation born after that of the baby boomers (roughly from the early 1960s to mid 1970s), often perceived to be disaffected and directionless.
I have yet to see a consistent hardline and that topic has actually been the subject of many sociology papers and discussions.
I have seen it defined multiple ways which supports my argument
I know I'm a little late to the party here, but it's definitely been defined in different ways by different people at different times. The first time I heard about gen X, it ended with those born in 1976, putting me into the next generation. It's been modified because of the large shift in technology since the 90s. I think that they'll eventually "discover" a lost generation (like the Jones generation) for those of us that were too young to really get into much in the 80s, but too old to have a cell phone before adulthood.0 -
I'm just telling you what I saw. Out of 11 resumes, two were even worth interviewing. I doubt they sent resumes they thought were not very good.
Could be the economy or could be you.You know, when I came out of college, the economy was pretty stinking bad, too. And every year for as far back as I can remember, in April-July, the news has always been filled with, "The job market for new grads SSSSUUUUCCCKKKKKSSSSS!!!!!"
I don't feel like this is that new. I worked briefly for an attorney in 2001 who represented banks foreclosing on houses and that one attorney took on literally 900 new foreclosure cases in a single month. It was a terrible, terrible economy and it was the economy in which I had to make my post-grad way. I had that job (it was awful) and before that, I worked in medical records for a neurology practice. I wasn't using my degree and I made crap.
I ended up going to a job at a small weekly newspaper that requred a degree and paid less than the two previous jobs. But it got me the experience I needed to move up to where I am now, which is a helluva a lot farther than I was 12 years ago.
Is the job market kinda lousy? Sure. But as it always was, you can't expect to start at the top and a lot of kids in this generation (not all) do expect to do just that. They expect the six-figure salary and huge house right out of college. No generation before got that.
I suppose I'd be a GYPSY, but I have no expectation of entering the workforce at any particular salary. The fact of the matter is, I've applied for jobs well below (minimum wage) and slightly above what I "think" I'm worth and....nothing. Two years of nothing.
The job market is well beyond "kinda lousy".
Honestly, I was part of the hiring process for a position here last year and the resumes we got were a joke. Most of them were from "professionals" with a lot of experience. We pulled 11 resumes out of what was submitted and TWO people got interviews. Not because we didn't want to interview other people, but because the resumes were simply awful.
It was a position for a writer. Almost every resume came from someone who wasn't a writer and had no experience writing. And they were full of both terrible typos and just plain terrible writing. A few didn't know the basics of style (like writing out numbers one-nine and using numerals for 10 and above).
I suggest you get your resume and cover letters looked at by someone who knows what he or she is doing and also make sure you're following-up with every one you send out.
I had my resume done professionally when I left college and I think that made a huge difference.
I've considered getting my resume done professionally, but right now it's not really an option. And I seriously doubt my "crappy resume" is keeping me from getting minimum wage, low-skill jobs like, say, cashier at Wal-Mart.
I know how to job search, I've been in the work force for 10 years. I don't apply for jobs that I'm not qualified for, and I'm certainly not the only person having issues finding work. The numbers tell that story.
I've had two jobs in the last eight years (the only ones I applied for). Both told me at the interviews and after that they were very impressed with my resume and writing samples and they hadn't received anything even close.
When we hired for a new position here about five years ago, it was the same. There were people who got interviews because of their experience, but their resumes were a mess. No one thinks their resumes are a mess, but from what I've seen in a position of hiring is that the majority of them are. Sometimes experience outweighs the poor resume (typos, poor writing, WAY too long, etc.). But in this economy, you want to be a step above everyone else.
And since you're competing with so many people for those low-paying jobs, quality matters there, too.
Look, you don't have to take my advice if you don't want to. But what I will tell you is that I have never not gotten an interview when applying for a job and the only time I didn't get hired was because the university I applied to decided to defund the position. I kind of know what I'm talking about. I would think with having been looking for two years without any success, you wouldn't be so defensive when someone is trying to help you.0 -
People also lived comfortably on $140 a month. Salaries have increased with the COL. And you can still get a decent car for not a ton of money if you're willing to look at something that isn't a Mercedes or BMW. Not that everyone wants that, but I know people who won't drive anything else, regardless of what they can afford.The main reason why Gen Y kids are unhappy is not because they think they're special so much as the economy sucks for most of them. Our economy is more and more just a handful of big winners and the rest getting nothing.
Yet most Gen Y kids own $90 a month smartphones that cost at least $200 up front, $500+ HD televisions, several video game systems, a laptop, a desktop, a tablet, etc etc etc. Of course the economy sucks though because after buying all those things they can only afford a used car that's two years old instead of a brand new one.
It's not really fair to use the cost of technology that didn't exist for the previous generations as an example of their character flaws. Inflation accounts for a lot here. I mean, for the baby-boomers, a car could be purchased for a half or even a fraction of the price that it costs now.
The point was using the amount of money that Gen-Y is willing to spend on various luxuries isn't a fair example of their "entitlement" mentality.
Luxuries. You said it right there. Non necessities. Items which are above and beyond what it takes to live or get by. ANY amount spent on luxuries by someone who's complaining about how little they have is an example of their entitlement. Spend less on nonsense and you'll live just fine.0 -
People also lived comfortably on $140 a month. Salaries have increased with the COL. And you can still get a decent car for not a ton of money if you're willing to look at something that isn't a Mercedes or BMW. Not that everyone wants that, but I know people who won't drive anything else, regardless of what they can afford.The main reason why Gen Y kids are unhappy is not because they think they're special so much as the economy sucks for most of them. Our economy is more and more just a handful of big winners and the rest getting nothing.
Yet most Gen Y kids own $90 a month smartphones that cost at least $200 up front, $500+ HD televisions, several video game systems, a laptop, a desktop, a tablet, etc etc etc. Of course the economy sucks though because after buying all those things they can only afford a used car that's two years old instead of a brand new one.
It's not really fair to use the cost of technology that didn't exist for the previous generations as an example of their character flaws. Inflation accounts for a lot here. I mean, for the baby-boomers, a car could be purchased for a half or even a fraction of the price that it costs now.
The point was using the amount of money that Gen-Y is willing to spend on various luxuries isn't a fair example of their "entitlement" mentality.
Luxuries. You said it right there. Non necessities. Items which are above and beyond what it takes to live or get by. ANY amount spent on luxuries by someone who's complaining about how little they have is an example of their entitlement. Spend less on nonsense and you'll live just fine.
But not all of the Gen-Y generation lives that way. And you can't tell me that previous generations didn't have their share of "luxuries" as well.0 -
I'm just telling you what I saw. Out of 11 resumes, two were even worth interviewing. I doubt they sent resumes they thought were not very good.
Could be the economy or could be you.You know, when I came out of college, the economy was pretty stinking bad, too. And every year for as far back as I can remember, in April-July, the news has always been filled with, "The job market for new grads SSSSUUUUCCCKKKKKSSSSS!!!!!"
I don't feel like this is that new. I worked briefly for an attorney in 2001 who represented banks foreclosing on houses and that one attorney took on literally 900 new foreclosure cases in a single month. It was a terrible, terrible economy and it was the economy in which I had to make my post-grad way. I had that job (it was awful) and before that, I worked in medical records for a neurology practice. I wasn't using my degree and I made crap.
I ended up going to a job at a small weekly newspaper that requred a degree and paid less than the two previous jobs. But it got me the experience I needed to move up to where I am now, which is a helluva a lot farther than I was 12 years ago.
Is the job market kinda lousy? Sure. But as it always was, you can't expect to start at the top and a lot of kids in this generation (not all) do expect to do just that. They expect the six-figure salary and huge house right out of college. No generation before got that.
I suppose I'd be a GYPSY, but I have no expectation of entering the workforce at any particular salary. The fact of the matter is, I've applied for jobs well below (minimum wage) and slightly above what I "think" I'm worth and....nothing. Two years of nothing.
The job market is well beyond "kinda lousy".
Honestly, I was part of the hiring process for a position here last year and the resumes we got were a joke. Most of them were from "professionals" with a lot of experience. We pulled 11 resumes out of what was submitted and TWO people got interviews. Not because we didn't want to interview other people, but because the resumes were simply awful.
It was a position for a writer. Almost every resume came from someone who wasn't a writer and had no experience writing. And they were full of both terrible typos and just plain terrible writing. A few didn't know the basics of style (like writing out numbers one-nine and using numerals for 10 and above).
I suggest you get your resume and cover letters looked at by someone who knows what he or she is doing and also make sure you're following-up with every one you send out.
I had my resume done professionally when I left college and I think that made a huge difference.
I've considered getting my resume done professionally, but right now it's not really an option. And I seriously doubt my "crappy resume" is keeping me from getting minimum wage, low-skill jobs like, say, cashier at Wal-Mart.
I know how to job search, I've been in the work force for 10 years. I don't apply for jobs that I'm not qualified for, and I'm certainly not the only person having issues finding work. The numbers tell that story.
I've had two jobs in the last eight years (the only ones I applied for). Both told me at the interviews and after that they were very impressed with my resume and writing samples and they hadn't received anything even close.
When we hired for a new position here about five years ago, it was the same. There were people who got interviews because of their experience, but their resumes were a mess. No one thinks their resumes are a mess, but from what I've seen in a position of hiring is that the majority of them are. Sometimes experience outweighs the poor resume (typos, poor writing, WAY too long, etc.). But in this economy, you want to be a step above everyone else.
And since you're competing with so many people for those low-paying jobs, quality matters there, too.
Look, you don't have to take my advice if you don't want to. But what I will tell you is that I have never not gotten an interview when applying for a job and the only time I didn't get hired was because the university I applied to decided to defund the position. I kind of know what I'm talking about. I would think with having been looking for two years without any success, you wouldn't be so defensive when someone is trying to help you.
I'll take whatever help I can get. My point is, the job market is beyond "kinda lousy" right now. It's horrendous, more so in certain areas.
Before this, I was in the same exact position as you: Never didn't get an interview for a job I applied for, and never didn't get a job I interviewed for. I have a solid work history and the few interviews I've had, more than one has told me they were impressed with my resume. Could my resume use some work? Probably, and if I can afford the fee to have a professional look it over anytime soon, I'll be on that like white on rice. But don't be so quick to assume things about people.
ETA: Like I said, the numbers back me up on this. Unemployment is sky high, and the labor force participation rate is at a 35 year low. The economy and the job market really does SUCK right now.0 -
I could be wrong but there are some self-righteous finger-pointin' know-it-alls in this thread.
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Part of the problem is a lot of Gen Y look at past generations and disregard the hard work and years of experience and have the expectation they should be promoted, rewarded, awarded, acknowledged etc. just because they have been doing the work for a short period of time. There is a difference between doing the work for a short period of time and gaining multiple years of experience to fulfill the requirements of higher level positions, rewards, awards etc. Another problem is the expectation of being rewarded for doing what they are supposed to be doing in the first place and being upset because they are not getting what they want as fast as they want it or as fast as they feel they deserve it. I acknowledge that not all people in Gen Y act like this, but it does seem to be the majority. (I also acknowledge this is not limited to Gen Y)
But you can't deny that the business environment has changed since our parents were working. I mean, it used to be that you could work for the same company for years knowing full well that there will be a pension waiting for you when you are ready to stop. In this era, the individual is responsible for taking care of the future. And there are many other ways in which modern business has abandoned their greatest asset, the employee, and as a result, Gen-Y is embittered because they are not receiving the same benefits for the same amount of effort that their parents received.
Oh, I do not deny that the business environment has changed from previous generations and individual responsibility is a very important aspect for the future. Yes, modern business is different now than when our parents were working. However, I am positive that previous generations had to endure many things (harsher than Gen Y), but the difference is they worked their behinds off and got the job done. My point was that some of Gen Y (and other generations) have the expectation of things being handed to them, simply because they did part of the job (or task) or because they did what they were supposed to be doing in the first place. While previous generations were able to start and retire from companies, buy homes, have families, wife did not work outside of the home etc. We have to acknowledge they still worked hard for everything they had and did not expect things to be handed to them simply for doing their job. (And again….I acknowledge that not all people in Gen Y act like this)
You know, to be fair to Gen-Y, the Baby-Boomers have had their time, their struggles, and the opportunity to prove their worth. For the most part, Gen-Y has yet to demonstrate their ability to persevere as they are currently still enduring the struggles of their generation. It's not really fair to say that the "Great" generation and the Baby-Boomers had overcome so much more than Gen-Y has had to when Gen-Y is just getting started and the other generations are coming to their ends. Think about it. Mankind has always had to fight for survival, always had obstacles to overcome, and that's not really going to change from one generation to the next. The only thing that will change is the nature of those obstacles.
To be fair, this entire time I have acknowledged that not all people from Gen Y act the way in the article or in my initial response. Yes, each generation will have their struggles that are unique to the current social trends. However, the expectation seems different now than previous generations. Has there always been self-centered people in each generation? Absolutely. Has there been economic difficulty in each generation? Absolutely. Has each generation handled the struggles the same? Absolutely not. There has been growth of some kind in each generation, I do not deny that fact. What I struggle with is the sense of entitlement and demanding natures of some of the younger generations. Some (not all) have the expectations of receiving promotions, rewards, awards etc. for doing what they are supposed to be doing in the first place. Some (not all) expect nothing but the best and are not willing to accept anything less than that or work for it. There could be multiple reasons for that, but that is probably an entire different thread topic.0 -
I've seen it defined more than once. But it isn't important enough for me to keep arguing. :-)
There is a line, though. There is an official definition. I posted it earlier. 1966-1980 is Gen X. 1981 begins Gen Y.I did not think Gen Y were born in the 70's? I thought that was Gen X and Gen Y started in mid-80's?
Yeah I think Gen X is universally thought of as including all 70's babies and even a couple years into the 80's, and then Gen Y began!
There isn't an exact line. I have traits of both and I was born in 76.
Then there's the Milleniums, but I can't remember exactly when that starts. I guess if we're doing 14-year spans, 1995.
Gen·er·a·tion X
noun
noun: Generation X; plural noun: Generation Xs
1.
the generation born after that of the baby boomers (roughly from the early 1960s to mid 1970s), often perceived to be disaffected and directionless.
I have yet to see a consistent hardline and that topic has actually been the subject of many sociology papers and discussions.
I have seen it defined multiple ways which supports my argument
I know I'm a little late to the party here, but it's definitely been defined in different ways by different people at different times. The first time I heard about gen X, it ended with those born in 1976, putting me into the next generation. It's been modified because of the large shift in technology since the 90s. I think that they'll eventually "discover" a lost generation (like the Jones generation) for those of us that were too young to really get into much in the 80s, but too old to have a cell phone before adulthood.
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Part of the problem is a lot of Gen Y look at past generations and disregard the hard work and years of experience and have the expectation they should be promoted, rewarded, awarded, acknowledged etc. just because they have been doing the work for a short period of time. There is a difference between doing the work for a short period of time and gaining multiple years of experience to fulfill the requirements of higher level positions, rewards, awards etc. Another problem is the expectation of being rewarded for doing what they are supposed to be doing in the first place and being upset because they are not getting what they want as fast as they want it or as fast as they feel they deserve it. I acknowledge that not all people in Gen Y act like this, but it does seem to be the majority. (I also acknowledge this is not limited to Gen Y)
But you can't deny that the business environment has changed since our parents were working. I mean, it used to be that you could work for the same company for years knowing full well that there will be a pension waiting for you when you are ready to stop. In this era, the individual is responsible for taking care of the future. And there are many other ways in which modern business has abandoned their greatest asset, the employee, and as a result, Gen-Y is embittered because they are not receiving the same benefits for the same amount of effort that their parents received.
Oh, I do not deny that the business environment has changed from previous generations and individual responsibility is a very important aspect for the future. Yes, modern business is different now than when our parents were working. However, I am positive that previous generations had to endure many things (harsher than Gen Y), but the difference is they worked their behinds off and got the job done. My point was that some of Gen Y (and other generations) have the expectation of things being handed to them, simply because they did part of the job (or task) or because they did what they were supposed to be doing in the first place. While previous generations were able to start and retire from companies, buy homes, have families, wife did not work outside of the home etc. We have to acknowledge they still worked hard for everything they had and did not expect things to be handed to them simply for doing their job. (And again….I acknowledge that not all people in Gen Y act like this)
You know, to be fair to Gen-Y, the Baby-Boomers have had their time, their struggles, and the opportunity to prove their worth. For the most part, Gen-Y has yet to demonstrate their ability to persevere as they are currently still enduring the struggles of their generation. It's not really fair to say that the "Great" generation and the Baby-Boomers had overcome so much more than Gen-Y has had to when Gen-Y is just getting started and the other generations are coming to their ends. Think about it. Mankind has always had to fight for survival, always had obstacles to overcome, and that's not really going to change from one generation to the next. The only thing that will change is the nature of those obstacles.
To be fair, this entire time I have acknowledged that not all people from Gen Y act the way in the article or in my initial response. Yes, each generation will have their struggles that are unique to the current social trends. However, the expectation seems different now than previous generations. Has there always been self-centered people in each generation? Absolutely. Has there been economic difficulty in each generation? Absolutely. Has each generation handled the struggles the same? Absolutely not. There has been growth of some kind in each generation, I do not deny that fact. What I struggle with is the sense of entitlement and demanding natures of some of the younger generations. Some (not all) have the expectations of receiving promotions, rewards, awards etc. for doing what they are supposed to be doing in the first place. Some (not all) expect nothing but the best and are not willing to accept anything less than that or work for it. There could be multiple reasons for that, but that is probably an entire different thread topic.
Well I think in 30 or 40 years, a bunch of Gen-Y's will be sitting around saying the same thing about their grandchildren's generation. :ohwell:0
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