I'm doing a health documentary, and I want your help :)

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  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    Sorry, but I'm an actual recovering addict...caffeine isn't ****...a little headache and difficult concentrating for a couple days isn't ****...

    Isn't this a bit like saying a broken foot isn't an injury because a broken hip is so much worse?
  • GimmieDatSalad
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    3. "A normal person would find it more sustainable to eat a healthy and balanced diet, not cutting out macro nutrients or eating strange proportions of them". Agree or disagree? I'm not sure I understand the statement.

    To clarify, your average working, busy person shouldn't try to follow a faddy proportion of carbs or protein or whatever, and would be better off eating a balance of everything so that their normal diet isn't too different and they don't go mad.

    Do you agree or disagree?
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,868 Member
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    Sorry, but I'm an actual recovering addict...caffeine isn't ****...a little headache and difficult concentrating for a couple days isn't ****...

    Isn't this a bit like saying a broken foot isn't an injury because a broken hip is so much worse?

    You will never convince me that sugar is "addictive"...or fast food is "addictive"...sorry, aint gonna happen. Habit forming, yes...addictive, no. Regardless, it's like *****ing to someone with a gunshot wound about your skinned knee...it's BS.

    Edit: yes, caffeine is addictive (though more or less childs play), alcohol is addictive and alcoholism is a real ***** of a disease...I've been smoke free for a year now and that was just as bad, if not worse than getting off the other **** I was doing...I just don't buy all of the, "help...I'm addicted to McDonalds BS...."
  • shapefitter
    shapefitter Posts: 900 Member
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    Eat to live, not live to eat. Make friends, and socialise (face to face).
    Plenty of fresh air, and an active lifestyle.
    A good nights sleep.

    I know caffein, alcohol, and chocolate is addictive.

    How do you define normal?

    Good old fashioned cooking.
  • theopenforum
    theopenforum Posts: 280 Member
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    1. water, exercise, proper nutrition, umm water? lol

    2.no, guns dont kill people, people kill people (substitute gun for fried chicken ^_^)

    3. no idea, i have never classified myself as normal and Im not going to pretend I understand normality and mediocrity because the sheer act of understanding it is not normal lol^^ (#mindblown)

    4. ahh the only real question, healthy eating - the act of eating mostly healthy foods without completely changing who you are while still being happy.

    Ummm I should probably copyright this, I just gave ya some good material :)

    cheers ^_^
  • GimmieDatSalad
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    Yes I'm aware of that. I'm sick of programs where someone works out with a trainer for an hour a day and only eats steak or something ridiculous. But woohoo they lost 100lbs! It's inspiring, but not practical.

    Normal people cannot replicate that, and frankly I wouldn't want to. My film will be about what your average, busy person can do to lose a little weight and be healthier, and I can only feature things you could do forever. I don't give a **** if I lose 1lb a week the whole time, that's not the point.

    Plus, I haven't been eating big mac's for a month and my blood pressure is fine lol.
  • jerryvo
    jerryvo Posts: 66 Member
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    1) Diet, Exercise, Sleep, Mental satisfaction (If you make yourself miserable meeting the first 3 it is not mentally healthy and unsustainable)

    2. I do not believe any food is addictive. I believe people can have an addictive personality and be mentally (but not actually physiologically) addicted to a food. For the most part I find this an excuse to continue a bad habit.

    3. Agree

    4. Healthy eating is maintaining a balance in what you eat and not putting anything off limits. Get most of your calories 80% through nutrient dense foods but have a candy bar now and then. Also don't fall prey to the latest what is bad for you fad (ie high fructose corn syrup). A little wont kill you and too much of anything is bad.
  • Mokey41
    Mokey41 Posts: 5,769 Member
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    You've never tried to give up caffeine, I take it. I've tried on numerous occasions - I got severe headaches and an inability to concentrate. I also believe I have an addiction to processed sugar, as do many people. I've given it up, and once I went through a pretty tough cleanse, have not craved it since. Some people can handle things in moderation, others cannot.

    I have and it wasn't a life threatening situation. I drank in excess of 4 litres of Coke a day and quit cold turkey. You will get a headache but tough it out for a couple days and it's over. I'm not sure I'd call it an addiction though.
  • sloth3toes
    sloth3toes Posts: 2,212 Member
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    3. "A normal person would find it more sustainable to eat a healthy and balanced diet, not cutting out macro nutrients or eating strange proportions of them". Agree or disagree? I'm not sure I understand the statement.

    To clarify, your average working, busy person shouldn't try to follow a faddy proportion of carbs or protein or whatever, and would be better off eating a balance of everything so that their normal diet isn't too different and they don't go mad.

    Do you agree or disagree?
    Yes I'm aware of that. I'm sick of programs where someone works out with a trainer for an hour a day and only eats steak or something ridiculous. But woohoo they lost 100lbs! It's inspiring, but not practical.

    Normal people cannot replicate that, and frankly I wouldn't want to. My film will be about what your average, busy person can do to lose a little weight and be healthier, and I can only feature things you could do forever. I don't give a **** if I lose 1lb a week the whole time, that's not the point.

    Plus, I haven't been eating big mac's for a month and my blood pressure is fine lol.

    This is a cool idea, and I hope to see the finished results. But, I'm not sure why you bothered asking this question... since your clarification makes it pretty clear that you already consider there to be only one answer.
  • sunsetzen
    sunsetzen Posts: 268 Member
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    1. If you had to pick the four pillars of a healthy lifestyle, what would they be?

    A way to relieve stress, sleep, tasty food and enjoyable exercise/movement

    2. Do you think certain foods are addictive?

    No, I think its psychological.

    3. "A normal person would find it more sustainable to eat a healthy and balanced diet, not cutting out macro nutrients or eating strange proportions of them". Agree or disagree?

    Agree.

    4. If you can, give me a very short description of what "healthy eating" is to you.

    Whole foods. Butter, eggs, raw milk, veggies, fruit, grass-fed meat. Chemical-laden, processed foods cant be healthy imo; those chemicals and hormones do nothing good for our health.
  • GimmieDatSalad
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    I could make an argument the other way too, I was just curious about how prevalent the opposite attitude was.
  • walleymama
    walleymama Posts: 174 Member
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    Essentially I'm doing the opposite of Super Size Me. Following all the best advise for 12 weeks, getting tests done before and after to see what happens. I'll be keeping a video diary and it gets edited together at the end. If you could answer these questions I'd be so so grateful.

    1. If you had to pick the four pillars of a healthy lifestyle, what would they be?

    Exercise regularly, even if that's just daily walks. Don't be overweight. Eat a well-balanced diet. Don't smoke.
    2. Do you think certain foods are addictive?

    I don't know. I'm thinking its the pleasure of eating that can be addictive, but whether that comes from chocolate, potato chips, or steaks really depends on the person.
    3. "A normal person would find it more sustainable to eat a healthy and balanced diet, not cutting out macro nutrients or eating strange proportions of them". Agree or disagree?

    If I understand what you are saying I would agree that it is easier to eat a wide range of foods with no "banned" substances than to try to never eat certain ingredients that are pervasive in our culture's diet, or change your diet drastically (e.g. going from a heavily processed food diet to a paleo type diet).
    4. If you can, give me a very short description of what "healthy eating" is to you.

    To me, healthy eating = whole foods. However, I think if you are wanting to lose weight you should focus more on portions and calories and not what you eat or don't eat because I think it makes it easier to reach your goal. That's why here on MFP I tend to side with the "eat whatever you want just stay in your daily goals" folks. For overall health, stay away from the heavily processed stuff.
  • Salkeela
    Salkeela Posts: 367 Member
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    Interesting perspective on the addictive nature of sugar:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/netherlands/10314705/Sugar-is-addictive-and-the-most-dangerous-drug-of-the-times.html

    I would tend to include all refined carbohydrates in that....
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
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    Essentially I'm doing the opposite of Super Size Me. Following all the best advise for 12 weeks, getting tests done before and after to see what happens. I'll be keeping a video diary and it gets edited together at the end. If you could answer these questions I'd be so so grateful.

    1. If you had to pick the four pillars of a healthy lifestyle, what would they be?

    2. Do you think certain foods are addictive?

    3. "A normal person would find it more sustainable to eat a healthy and balanced diet, not cutting out macro nutrients or eating strange proportions of them". Agree or disagree?

    4. If you can, give me a very short description of what "healthy eating" is to you.

    1. Good nutrition, focus on fitness, Rest, taking care of mental health

    2. Not the food per se. I think people can get addicted to anything in the behavioral sense. But as far as "sugar is like crack"-- No.

    3. Agree but there are a lot of different definitions of "healthy and balanced" so I'd really need to know what you mean by that.

    4. Healthy eating is a diet composed of mostly nutrient dense foods in the proper quantities and macronutrient ratios to fit ones' goals. I think the healthiest plan allows for treats in moderation, assuming other goals have already been met. Also I think a healthy plan doesn't demonize food groups, but recognizes that every choice should be viewed in the context of the entire diet.
  • Bubblywendy
    Bubblywendy Posts: 32 Member
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    1. If you had to pick the four pillars of a healthy lifestyle, what would they be?
    Eat a balanced diet, exercise, socialising, for mental health we need to sleep for 7-8 hours

    2. Do you think certain foods are addictive?
    Yes, to certain people. I know that I can become really addicted to processed food, I believe the addiction is born through habit

    3. "A normal person would find it more sustainable to eat a healthy and balanced diet, not cutting out macro nutrients or eating strange proportions of them". Agree or disagree?
    It depends on your body structure. Some do really well on a raw diet, others need more protein if they have a labour intensive job, of some just needs abit more fat content if thats the only way to keep them full, some needs more carbs than others such as marathon runners. It depends on lifestyle

    4. If you can, give me a very short description of what "healthy eating" is to you.
    Consuming (healthy) food in moderation for energy, and not letting the food consume you
  • MinnieInMaine
    MinnieInMaine Posts: 6,400 Member
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    1. If you had to pick the four pillars of a healthy lifestyle, what would they be?

    Hydration, sleep, balanced diet (80/20), regular activity/exercise

    2. Do you think certain foods are addictive?

    There's no questions that certain substances are physically addictive (like caffeine, alcohol, etc) but I think food addiction is more mental/emotional - meaning people get attached to how those foods remind them of being a happy kid or of simpler times, Also the convenience can be "addictive" meaning it's far easier to make excuses that healthy eating is too expensive or too time consuming and continue to go through the drive thru or call for delivery rather than attempt to make an actual effort to plan meals, shop for healthier ingredients, etc. And I'm not making generalizations, I'm speaking from experience.

    3. "A normal person would find it more sustainable to eat a healthy and balanced diet, not cutting out macro nutrients or eating strange proportions of them". Agree or disagree?

    Agree

    4. If you can, give me a very short description of what "healthy eating" is to you.

    Back to the 80/20 split - mostly fruits, veg, whole grains, healthy fats and lean meats - but also allow for treats like chocolate, take-out or alcohol on a regular basis.

    I'd also like to add that healthy eating =/= weight loss. You can eat very healthy foods but if you eat them in excess, you're still not going to lose weight.