any lap banders out there?

PrettyBirdieGirl

I'm getting banded on Oct 15; officially start the pre-op diet on Oct1. I've already been trying to adapt my eating habits to my new lifestyle an d especailly to the pre-op diet. So far, so good! Any one else doing the same?

_Waffle_

I just went ahead and started a healthy diet without doing the procedure. I pretended I had it done, ate the pre and post-op diet and it works. The best part was that I didn't have any recovery time from the surgery.

PikaKnight

I'm just going off your ticker but is 60lbs all you have to lose? And you are getting the lap band?

bcattoes

I haven't had the procedure, but I'm pretty sure I saw a group for it. Click on 'Groups' in the menu bar above and you should be able to search for it.

Best of luck to you!

escloflowneCHANGED

I'm just going off your ticker but is 60lbs all you have to lose? And you are getting the lap band?

I was wondering about this also, isn't that procedure for morbidly obese people!?

tj1376

I didn't have the band, but I did have the sleeve. Regardless of which you do, you will find that "training" for it in advance and having to do it are sooooo different. But totally worth it if you put in the effort to follow all of your surgeon, nutritionist and exercise physiologists advice and guidelines.

bcattoes

I'm just going off your ticker but is 60lbs all you have to lose? And you are getting the lap band?

I was wondering about this also, isn't that procedure for morbidly obese people!?

No, it's not. At least it's not ONLY for the morbidly obese.

qtgonewild

I was wondering the same thing about the 60 pounds. You could knock that out in a year. Instead you are going to change your insides forever. Im so glad i never considered that route.

escloflowneCHANGED

I'm just going off your ticker but is 60lbs all you have to lose? And you are getting the lap band?

I was wondering about this also, isn't that procedure for morbidly obese people!?

No, it's not. At least it's not ONLY for the morbidly obese.

If you aren't morbidly obese, what is the point of getting it? Couldn't you just go to the gym and eat right and get better results?

ash8184

I had the band, and I love it. It's definitely given me challenges, but it's been so worth it. It has given me the last piece of the puzzle I needed to lose weight and keep it off. There are a lot of people, especially on MFP that will criticize weight loss surgery, but it has helped me maintain a healthy and active lifestyle, and given me the last tool I needed in my toolbox to make it happen.

Start the pre op diet as early as you can, and be careful after surgery (ie stay on liquid/soft foods for awhile). Chew A LOT. Don't be afraid to order a to go box with food at a restaurant. You'll need to throw up a lot at first... hang in there with it and learn from your mistakes. Exercise as much as you can after surgery. Avoid sugar, fat and especially bread/pasta (it has a tendency to get stuck in your throat and will make you throw up). Set a health goal - BF% or weight - and don't stop short of the finish line.

Let me know if you have any questions!

bcattoes

I'm just going off your ticker but is 60lbs all you have to lose? And you are getting the lap band?

I was wondering about this also, isn't that procedure for morbidly obese people!?

No, it's not. At least it's not ONLY for the morbidly obese.

If you aren't morbidly obese, what is the point of getting it? Couldn't you just go to the gym and eat right and get better results?

It depends on what you mean by "better". Weight loss surgery has proven to provide health benefits that are not found in slower weight loss programs. It's not without risk and it's own challenges though, so what is "better" is subjective.

escloflowneCHANGED

I'm just going off your ticker but is 60lbs all you have to lose? And you are getting the lap band?

I was wondering about this also, isn't that procedure for morbidly obese people!?

No, it's not. At least it's not ONLY for the morbidly obese.

If you aren't morbidly obese, what is the point of getting it? Couldn't you just go to the gym and eat right and get better results?

It depends on what you mean by "better". Weight loss surgery has proven to provide health benefits that are not found in slower weight loss programs. It's not without risk and it's own challenges though, so what is "better" is subjective.

Better to me is learning proper nutrition and becoming physically active so that you retain muscle mass while losing fat, 500-600 calories per day isn't going to give you enough energy to hit the gym 3 times a week?

qtgonewild

I had the band, and I love it. It's definitely given me challenges, but it's been so worth it. It has given me the last piece of the puzzle I needed to lose weight and keep it off. There are a lot of people, especially on MFP that will criticize weight loss surgery, but it has helped me maintain a healthy and active lifestyle, and given me the last tool I needed in my toolbox to make it happen.

Start the pre op diet as early as you can, and be careful after surgery (ie stay on liquid/soft foods for awhile). Chew A LOT. Don't be afraid to order a to go box with food at a restaurant. You'll need to throw up a lot at first... hang in there with it and learn from your mistakes. Exercise as much as you can after surgery. Avoid sugar, fat and especially bread/pasta (it has a tendency to get stuck in your throat and will make you throw up). Set a health goal - BF% or weight - and don't stop short of the finish line.

Let me know if you have any questions!

im sorry and im glad for your loss. but this sounds awful.

odusgolp

I'm just going off your ticker but is 60lbs all you have to lose? And you are getting the lap band?

I was wondering about this also, isn't that procedure for morbidly obese people!?

No, it's not. At least it's not ONLY for the morbidly obese.

If you aren't morbidly obese, what is the point of getting it? Couldn't you just go to the gym and eat right and get better results?

It depends on what you mean by "better". Weight loss surgery has proven to provide health benefits that are not found in slower weight loss programs. It's not without risk and it's own challenges though, so what is "better" is subjective.

I have no words for this. You took it to a new level, which should no longer shock me coming from you, but...

bcattoes

I'm just going off your ticker but is 60lbs all you have to lose? And you are getting the lap band?

I was wondering about this also, isn't that procedure for morbidly obese people!?

No, it's not. At least it's not ONLY for the morbidly obese.

If you aren't morbidly obese, what is the point of getting it? Couldn't you just go to the gym and eat right and get better results?

It depends on what you mean by "better". Weight loss surgery has proven to provide health benefits that are not found in slower weight loss programs. It's not without risk and it's own challenges though, so what is "better" is subjective.

Better to me is learning proper nutrition and becoming physically active so that you retain muscle mass while losing fat, 500-600 calories per day isn't going to give you enough energy to hit the gym 3 times a week?

People are different. Better is just opinion. OP didn't ask for yours or mine.

Ashley_Panda

For the love of everything in the universe DO NOT have a stupid lapband. My parents signed me up to get one at 17 and I spent years unable to keep down so much as water and my own spit. I would literally throw up my own spit. I wish I was kidding. Yeah, I lost. But I also went nearly a week at a time without being able to keep down anything. You go, get a fill, $100. Too tight, you puke. Unfill $100. You can eat too much, get a fill $100. Too tight, puke, $100 to unfill. I had my unfilled and still could not keep down water. There was NOTHING in it.

I lived off of soup/mashed potatoes every THREE days because that's about how often I could keep food down.

-116 later, BY MYSELF.

It's awful, seriously.

Stop eating crap food and move your *kitten*.

bcattoes

I'm just going off your ticker but is 60lbs all you have to lose? And you are getting the lap band?

I was wondering about this also, isn't that procedure for morbidly obese people!?

No, it's not. At least it's not ONLY for the morbidly obese.

If you aren't morbidly obese, what is the point of getting it? Couldn't you just go to the gym and eat right and get better results?

It depends on what you mean by "better". Weight loss surgery has proven to provide health benefits that are not found in slower weight loss programs. It's not without risk and it's own challenges though, so what is "better" is subjective.

I have no words for this. You took it to a new level, which should no longer shock me coming from you, but...

Those look suspiciously like words.

Pixi_Rex

Weight loss surgery has proven to provide health benefits that are not found in slower weight loss programs. It's not without risk and it's own challenges though, so what is "better" is subjective.

Can you please tell me what health benefits it provides that are not found in slower weightloss programs? I am not being a d!ck either I really would like to know.

Edited because typing on my phone leads to massive spelling errors.

PikaKnight

For the love of everything in the universe DO NOT have a stupid lapband. My parents signed me up to get one at 17 and I spent years unable to keep down so much as water and my own spit. I would literally throw up my own spit. I wish I was kidding. Yeah, I lost. But I also went nearly a week at a time without being able to keep down anything. You go, get a fill, $100. Too tight, you puke. Unfill $100. You can eat too much, get a fill $100. Too tight, puke, $100 to unfill. I had my unfilled and still could not keep down water. There was NOTHING in it.

I lived off of soup/mashed potatoes every THREE days because that's about how often I could keep food down.

-116 later, BY MYSELF.

It's awful, seriously.

Stop eating crap food and move your *kitten*.

Daaayuuuuummm girl!!!!

PikaKnight

I'm just going off your ticker but is 60lbs all you have to lose? And you are getting the lap band?

I was wondering about this also, isn't that procedure for morbidly obese people!?

No, it's not. At least it's not ONLY for the morbidly obese.

If you aren't morbidly obese, what is the point of getting it? Couldn't you just go to the gym and eat right and get better results?

It depends on what you mean by "better". Weight loss surgery has proven to provide health benefits that are not found in slower weight loss programs. It's not without risk and it's own challenges though, so what is "better" is subjective.

I have no words for this. You took it to a new level, which should no longer shock me coming from you, but...

:laugh: :flowerforyou: :drinker:

bcattoes

Weight loss surgery has proven to provide health benefits that are not found in slower weight loss programs. It's not without risk and it's own challenges though, so what is "better" is subjective.

Can you please tell me what health benefits it provides that are not found in slower weightloss programs? I am not being a d!ck either I really would like to know.

Edited because typing on my phone leads to massive spelling errors.

Spelling errors don't bother me. The most dramatic difference that I've heard of is that children born to women who have had weight loss surgery often have less genetic obesity markers than children born before they had the surgery.

In diabetics, HbA1c levels are stastically lower for weight loss surgery patients, even several years out, than those that lost through exercise and diet alone.

I'm not pro- or anti- weight loss surgery, BTW. I'm just anti- telling others what they should or should not do because I'm "expert" enough to create an account on a free internet site.

PikaKnight

Weight loss surgery has proven to provide health benefits that are not found in slower weight loss programs. It's not without risk and it's own challenges though, so what is "better" is subjective.

Can you please tell me what health benefits it provides that are not found in slower weightloss programs? I am not being a d!ck either I really would like to know.

Edited because typing on my phone leads to massive spelling errors.

Spelling errors don't bother me. The most dramatic difference that I've heard of is that children born to women who have had weight loss surgery often have less genetic obesity markers than children born before they had the surgery.

In diabetics, HbA1c levels are stastically lower for weight loss surgery patients, even several years out, than those that lost through exercise and diet alone.

I'm not pro- or anti- weight loss surgery, BTW. I'm just anti- telling others what they should or should not do because I'm "expert" enough to create an account on a free internet site.

I'm sorry but weight loss surgery somehow affects genetics??????

bcattoes

Weight loss surgery has proven to provide health benefits that are not found in slower weight loss programs. It's not without risk and it's own challenges though, so what is "better" is subjective.

Can you please tell me what health benefits it provides that are not found in slower weightloss programs? I am not being a d!ck either I really would like to know.

Edited because typing on my phone leads to massive spelling errors.

Spelling errors don't bother me. The most dramatic difference that I've heard of is that children born to women who have had weight loss surgery often have less genetic obesity markers than children born before they had the surgery.

In diabetics, HbA1c levels are stastically lower for weight loss surgery patients, even several years out, than those that lost through exercise and diet alone.

I'm not pro- or anti- weight loss surgery, BTW. I'm just anti- telling others what they should or should not do because I'm "expert" enough to create an account on a free internet site.

I'm sorry but weight loss surgery somehow affects genetics??????

Yes.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57586480/moms-who-had-weight-loss-surgery-may-pass-on-healthier-genes/

PikaKnight

Weight loss surgery has proven to provide health benefits that are not found in slower weight loss programs. It's not without risk and it's own challenges though, so what is "better" is subjective.

Can you please tell me what health benefits it provides that are not found in slower weightloss programs? I am not being a d!ck either I really would like to know.

Edited because typing on my phone leads to massive spelling errors.

Spelling errors don't bother me. The most dramatic difference that I've heard of is that children born to women who have had weight loss surgery often have less genetic obesity markers than children born before they had the surgery.

In diabetics, HbA1c levels are stastically lower for weight loss surgery patients, even several years out, than those that lost through exercise and diet alone.

I'm not pro- or anti- weight loss surgery, BTW. I'm just anti- telling others what they should or should not do because I'm "expert" enough to create an account on a free internet site.

I'm sorry but weight loss surgery somehow affects genetics??????

Yes.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57586480/moms-who-had-weight-loss-surgery-may-pass-on-healthier-genes/

To point out, it wasn't the surgery but the fact that the mother lost the weight prior to having the child. The surgery doesn't affect someone's genetics.

bcattoes

Weight loss surgery has proven to provide health benefits that are not found in slower weight loss programs. It's not without risk and it's own challenges though, so what is "better" is subjective.

Can you please tell me what health benefits it provides that are not found in slower weightloss programs? I am not being a d!ck either I really would like to know.

Edited because typing on my phone leads to massive spelling errors.

Spelling errors don't bother me. The most dramatic difference that I've heard of is that children born to women who have had weight loss surgery often have less genetic obesity markers than children born before they had the surgery.

In diabetics, HbA1c levels are stastically lower for weight loss surgery patients, even several years out, than those that lost through exercise and diet alone.

I'm not pro- or anti- weight loss surgery, BTW. I'm just anti- telling others what they should or should not do because I'm "expert" enough to create an account on a free internet site.

I'm sorry but weight loss surgery somehow affects genetics??????

Yes.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57586480/moms-who-had-weight-loss-surgery-may-pass-on-healthier-genes/

To point out, it wasn't the surgery but the fact that the mother lost the weight prior to having the child. The surgery doesn't affect someone's genetics.

I stand corrected. I should have answered your question with "no" and the link. It doesn't change the fact that these changes have not been observed in mothers who lost without surgery. But you are correct, the surgery was just a weight loss tool.

You great. Me bad.

CyberEd312

Weight loss surgery has proven to provide health benefits that are not found in slower weight loss programs. It's not without risk and it's own challenges though, so what is "better" is subjective.

Can you please tell me what health benefits it provides that are not found in slower weightloss programs? I am not being a d!ck either I really would like to know.

Edited because typing on my phone leads to massive spelling errors.

Spelling errors don't bother me. The most dramatic difference that I've heard of is that children born to women who have had weight loss surgery often have less genetic obesity markers than children born before they had the surgery.

In diabetics, HbA1c levels are stastically lower for weight loss surgery patients, even several years out, than those that lost through exercise and diet alone.

I'm not pro- or anti- weight loss surgery, BTW. I'm just anti- telling others what they should or should not do because I'm "expert" enough to create an account on a free internet site.

I'm sorry but weight loss surgery somehow affects genetics??????

Yes.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57586480/moms-who-had-weight-loss-surgery-may-pass-on-healthier-genes/

isn't it more so to the fact that that mother can no longer eat the quantity of food she previously was able to eat and has had to make a complete 180 in her diet which probably means the kids are eating more along the lines of there mother/parents which in retrospect the children stand less of a chance of becoming obese which improves their health markers as well... I would believe that over the other....

PrettyBirdieGirl

because I have 2 co-morbitity factors against me: Type 2 diabetes and I had a heart attack last Oct. Between all the meds for each, my body is having a really hard time letting me lose any weight. Both my cariologis and endocrinologis have signed off on the procedure.
My stretch goal is 75 lbs.
Great question! Thanks for asking

EvgeniZyntx

Weight loss surgery has proven to provide health benefits that are not found in slower weight loss programs. It's not without risk and it's own challenges though, so what is "better" is subjective.

Can you please tell me what health benefits it provides that are not found in slower weightloss programs? I am not being a d!ck either I really would like to know.

Edited because typing on my phone leads to massive spelling errors.

Spelling errors don't bother me. The most dramatic difference that I've heard of is that children born to women who have had weight loss surgery often have less genetic obesity markers than children born before they had the surgery.

In diabetics, HbA1c levels are stastically lower for weight loss surgery patients, even several years out, than those that lost through exercise and diet alone.

I'm not pro- or anti- weight loss surgery, BTW. I'm just anti- telling others what they should or should not do because I'm "expert" enough to create an account on a free internet site.

If you are referring to the Dampil "study" it's not a very good study and your conclusion is incorrect - the "conventional therapy" he compared was not for "those that lost through exercise alone" but those that tried conventional therapy and did not lose.

So yes weight loss surgery shows lower HbA1c vs patients that did not lose via conventional therapy but this is a meta study that only included a few studies versus other studies that have actually shown no difference in diabetic markets on weight loss method, as long as equivalent loss amounts are seen.

EvgeniZyntx

Weight loss surgery has proven to provide health benefits that are not found in slower weight loss programs. It's not without risk and it's own challenges though, so what is "better" is subjective.

Can you please tell me what health benefits it provides that are not found in slower weightloss programs? I am not being a d!ck either I really would like to know.

Edited because typing on my phone leads to massive spelling errors.

Spelling errors don't bother me. The most dramatic difference that I've heard of is that children born to women who have had weight loss surgery often have less genetic obesity markers than children born before they had the surgery.

In diabetics, HbA1c levels are stastically lower for weight loss surgery patients, even several years out, than those that lost through exercise and diet alone.

I'm not pro- or anti- weight loss surgery, BTW. I'm just anti- telling others what they should or should not do because I'm "expert" enough to create an account on a free internet site.

I'm sorry but weight loss surgery somehow affects genetics??????

Yes.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57586480/moms-who-had-weight-loss-surgery-may-pass-on-healthier-genes/

isn't it more so to the fact that that mother can no longer eat the quantity of food she previously was able to eat and has had to make a complete 180 in her diet which probably means the kids are eating more along the lines of there mother/parents which in retrospect the children stand less of a chance of becoming obese which improves their health markers as well... I would believe that over the other....

This is actually an interesting study but it is really a good argument to lose weight.

The study found that expression of genes (and not the actual genes themselves) was modified in patients that had lost a lot of weight (via surgery) versus their twins. The study does not compare gene methylation between people that lost via surgery vs other ways.

The only reasonable conclusion that can be reached is that gene expression is complex and isn't just regulated by the genes themselves but by the maternal environment prior to birth - epigenetics at it's finest.

Unfortunately, the spin that the media have taken is that since this occured in surgery patients - it's the surgery, not the essential weight loss.

bcattoes

Weight loss surgery has proven to provide health benefits that are not found in slower weight loss programs. It's not without risk and it's own challenges though, so what is "better" is subjective.

Can you please tell me what health benefits it provides that are not found in slower weightloss programs? I am not being a d!ck either I really would like to know.

Edited because typing on my phone leads to massive spelling errors.

Spelling errors don't bother me. The most dramatic difference that I've heard of is that children born to women who have had weight loss surgery often have less genetic obesity markers than children born before they had the surgery.

In diabetics, HbA1c levels are stastically lower for weight loss surgery patients, even several years out, than those that lost through exercise and diet alone.

I'm not pro- or anti- weight loss surgery, BTW. I'm just anti- telling others what they should or should not do because I'm "expert" enough to create an account on a free internet site.

I'm sorry but weight loss surgery somehow affects genetics??????

Yes.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57586480/moms-who-had-weight-loss-surgery-may-pass-on-healthier-genes/

isn't it more so to the fact that that mother can no longer eat the quantity of food she previously was able to eat and has had to make a complete 180 in her diet which probably means the kids are eating more along the lines of there mother/parents which in retrospect the children stand less of a chance of becoming obese which improves their health markers as well... I would believe that over the other....

This is actually an interesting study but it is really a good argument to lose weight.

The study found that expression of genes (and not the actual genes themselves) was modified in patients that had lost a lot of weight (via surgery) versus their twins. The study does not compare gene methylation between people that lost via surgery vs other ways.

The only reasonable conclusion that can be reached is that gene expression is complex and isn't just regulated by the genes themselves but by the maternal environment prior to birth - epigenetics at it's finest.

Unfortunately, the spin that the media have taken is that since this occured in surgery patients - it's the surgery, not the essential weight loss.

I think this is a different study. This is about the genetic differences in children born to female patients who have had surgery when compared to children born to the same women while they were obese.

But the twin study sounds interesting.

ETA: OP, sorry for highjacking your thread. I just find all this data they are now gathering on weight loss pts fascinating. :flowerforyou:

EvgeniZyntx

Weight loss surgery has proven to provide health benefits that are not found in slower weight loss programs. It's not without risk and it's own challenges though, so what is "better" is subjective.

Can you please tell me what health benefits it provides that are not found in slower weightloss programs? I am not being a d!ck either I really would like to know.

Edited because typing on my phone leads to massive spelling errors.

Spelling errors don't bother me. The most dramatic difference that I've heard of is that children born to women who have had weight loss surgery often have less genetic obesity markers than children born before they had the surgery.

In diabetics, HbA1c levels are stastically lower for weight loss surgery patients, even several years out, than those that lost through exercise and diet alone.

I'm not pro- or anti- weight loss surgery, BTW. I'm just anti- telling others what they should or should not do because I'm "expert" enough to create an account on a free internet site.

I'm sorry but weight loss surgery somehow affects genetics??????

Yes.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-204_162-57586480/moms-who-had-weight-loss-surgery-may-pass-on-healthier-genes/

isn't it more so to the fact that that mother can no longer eat the quantity of food she previously was able to eat and has had to make a complete 180 in her diet which probably means the kids are eating more along the lines of there mother/parents which in retrospect the children stand less of a chance of becoming obese which improves their health markers as well... I would believe that over the other....

This is actually an interesting study but it is really a good argument to lose weight.

The study found that expression of genes (and not the actual genes themselves) was modified in patients that had lost a lot of weight (via surgery) versus their twins. The study does not compare gene methylation between people that lost via surgery vs other ways.

The only reasonable conclusion that can be reached is that gene expression is complex and isn't just regulated by the genes themselves but by the maternal environment prior to birth - epigenetics at it's finest.

Unfortunately, the spin that the media have taken is that since this occured in surgery patients - it's the surgery, not the essential weight loss.

I think this is a different study. This is about the genetic differences in children born to female patients who have had surgery when compared to children born to the same women while they were obese.

But the twin study sounds interesting.

ETA: OP, sorry for highjacking your thread. I just find all this data they are now gathering on weight loss pts fascinating. :flowerforyou:

Epigenetics - study shows a change due to weight loss not necessarily specific to surgery. Read the conclusions.

Edit - I do not consider this a highjack as the idea that surgery has specific benefits (based on a genetic change) was brought up. Surgery does have some benefits - speed, success rates but the genetic changes should not be considered as a plus OVER conventional loss.