Its so easy to go above calorie with junk food!
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reg bacon and other foods have transfat Im trying to lose bodyfat and that could affect that
bacon DOES NOT HAVE TRANS FAT.
you need to be eating more calories. end of story. if you're wanting to avoid SATURATED fat (which is probably what you're thinking of but even still-- some saturated fat in your diet isn't a "bad" thing at all), then eat NUTS, OLIVE OIL, AVOCADO, SALMON. its not that difficult. you need to up your calories.0 -
But now Im being told to eat like an average human being but this time lift weights instead also to avoid sugar as well. Should I avoid fried foods to?
It depends on what it's fried in...not all fats and oils are trans fats...you seem to be making everything into transfats...it's not all trans fats. The trans fats that, yes...you want to avoid, are partially hydrogenated oils in things like brick margarine.
Just eat a balanced diet that is rich in nutrient dense whole foods. Things like eggs are very healthy...an WHOLE egg is, ounce for ounce, one of the most nutrient dense foods on the planet. You need meat...grill up some chicken...grill up some beef...these things are "healthy". Get your fruit and veg and grains...eat some pasta, etc.
When it comes to your weight, it's about quantity. You need a certain number of calories just to maintain your muscle mass, and basic functions...I maintain my weight eating roughly 2800 calories per day...when I was your age, it was easily 3500 - 4000 calories per day because when I was your age I played all manner of sports and ultimately went into the military where I trained my *kitten* off...you can't train like a mofo on 1000 calories brother...0 -
I think that the general rule should be:
Don't eat lots of simple carbs such as bread, pasta, sweets, chips. Switch to whole grains for your carbs, such as steel cut oats, whole wheats, kashi grains. Try brown rice or whole grain breads.
Eat lean meats, nuts, cheese
Yes skim milk is fine. No need to get whole milk
Eat plenty of fruits and vegetables
Lift weights.
You will become more defined in your body muscles, and you will be healthy. No need to cut back that far on the calories, I eat around 1,000 and I am a 50 year old woman, I don't need that much food.
No.
Well not 'no' but 'largely unnecessary'0 -
OP, please consider talking with a counselor and a registered dietitian. Also, maybe go to a doctor to make sure you haven't done any permanent damage to yourself.
And please eat more!!!! PLEASE!0 -
I think that the general rule should be:
Don't eat lots of simple carbs such as bread, pasta, sweets, chips. Switch to whole grains for your carbs, such as steel cut oats, whole wheats, kashi grains. Try brown rice or whole grain breads.
Eat lean meats, nuts, cheese
Yes skim milk is fine. No need to get whole milk
Eat plenty of fruits and vegetables
Lift weights.
You will become more defined in your body muscles, and you will be healthy. No need to cut back that far on the calories, I eat around 1,000 and I am a 50 year old woman, I don't need that much food.Dude. You're 19. I lived on upwards of 3500+ a day at that age.
Eat meat. Lots of it. Lift weights. Rinse. Repeat.
Biggest Confusing Thread Ever everybody is mostly either agree disagreeing or not being straight to the point but Im going to increase my portions on certain foods and make the calories higher and Im unsure about transfat Ive been msgd by someone just now to avoid it and some in the post said I shouldnt as well.0 -
Anyone telling you to avoid certain foods is just mistaken.
To lose weight you eat less calories. Simple as that.
I'm losing weight eating eggs and freakin' bacon every morning. If I want fast food I can have that too as long as I budget my calories.
No food will hinder weight loss or "burn fat". You do that fat burning yourself, by eating less.0 -
I think Im starting to understand it now for the people that start off their diet they have many restrictions then after a while once they become skinny fat then they lose restrictions they can eat more food and they lift heavy but stay away from fried foods and sugar as well then once you get cut you want you to focus on maintaining it.0
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I think that the general rule should be:
Don't eat lots of simple carbs such as bread, pasta, sweets, chips. Switch to whole grains for your carbs, such as steel cut oats, whole wheats, kashi grains. Try brown rice or whole grain breads.
Eat lean meats, nuts, cheese
Yes skim milk is fine. No need to get whole milk
Eat plenty of fruits and vegetables
Lift weights.
You will become more defined in your body muscles, and you will be healthy. No need to cut back that far on the calories, I eat around 1,000 and I am a 50 year old woman, I don't need that much food.
Ignore this ^^^^^ total BS
Seriously EAT ALL THE FOODZ, it is not hard to get to 2000 cals, eat bacon, whole eggs, whole milk, bread, pasta, meat, and some junk food.
Don't worry about fat, dietary fat does not make you fat.
You may want to speak to a professional about this - your avoidance of food and very very low calorie intake are major red flags for an eating disorder.
Is that straight enough to the point.
People are telling you to eat more as you are on a very bad path. Listen to them and get off it now.
Eat more, lift heavy stuff, repeat.0 -
I think Im starting to understand it now for the people that start off their diet they have many restrictions then after a while once they become skinny fat then they lose restrictions they can eat more food and they lift heavy but stay away from fried foods and sugar as well then once you get cut you want you to focus on maintaining it.
There is nothing wrong with fried food in moderation. And nothing wrong with sugar AT ALL. Try to get most of your sugar from natural sources but it really doesn't matter. Most people don't even track sugar unless they have a medical reason to.0 -
I think Im starting to understand it now for the people that start off their diet they have many restrictions then after a while once they become skinny fat then they lose restrictions they can eat more food and they lift heavy but stay away from fried foods and sugar as well then once you get cut you want you to focus on maintaining it.
No. I think it's pretty safe to say that you need to ignore whoever is giving you your current dieting advice. You're a 19 year old 6'1", 177 pound man. It's time to get under a bar and start eating like several posters have already said.
(1) eat 1 gram of protein per pound of lean body mass, or just do 0.8 grams per pound of weight and call it a day, (2) eat at least 0.35 grams of dietary fat per pound of body weight, (3) fill the rest with a variety of carbs, (4) get enough fiber, (5) eat plenty of fruits, veggies, meat, grains, beans, and full fat dairy for 80% of your calories, (6) fill the other 20% with what you enjoy - ice cream, cookies, cake, etc., and (7) did I mention lifting?0 -
I looked back too....you need to eat more. People are telling you this because it is true. Who eats one oz of pasta and one oz of sauce for dinner???? My one year old eats more than that.
Eat some yogurt, cheeses, vegetables. Special K cereal bars are NOT good for you. They have too much sugar and not a lot of anything else.
This post said sugar wasnt good.0 -
I looked back too....you need to eat more. People are telling you this because it is true. Who eats one oz of pasta and one oz of sauce for dinner???? My one year old eats more than that.
Eat some yogurt, cheeses, vegetables. Special K cereal bars are NOT good for you. They have too much sugar and not a lot of anything else.
This post said sugar wasnt good.
No, re-read it.
It was that the special K bars aren't good due to too much sugar per bar - NOT sugar is bad.
Edit: it's all about moderation and balance0 -
A lot of junk food threads in the last few days. What's up with that?0
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I looked back too....you need to eat more. People are telling you this because it is true. Who eats one oz of pasta and one oz of sauce for dinner???? My one year old eats more than that.
Eat some yogurt, cheeses, vegetables. Special K cereal bars are NOT good for you. They have too much sugar and not a lot of anything else.
This post said sugar wasnt good.
Are you just believing whatever post you come across first? If you're this concerned about the most minute details of nutrition, research different sources, read studies, etc.
If that all sounds boring and tedious to you, focus on your calories and--most importantly, since you were asking about LBM in that thread the other day--your protein. And in both cases, eat MORE calories and protein.
You'll starve away all of your muscles and eventually your organs (like heart and brain) if you keep exercising and only eating 1000 or less calories a day.0 -
So, OP, basically what you're saying is that instead of listening to the majority of the posters who are in agreement, you're going to listen to the two people who claim that there are certain evil foods out there?
Sounds legit. This is MFP after all.
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No. I think it's pretty safe to say that you need to ignore whoever is giving you your current dieting advice. You're a 19 year old 6'1", 177 pound man. It's time to get under a bar and start eating like several posters have already said.
(1) eat 1 gram of protein per pound of lean body mass, or just do 0.8 grams per pound of weight and call it a day, (2) eat at least 0.35 grams of dietary fat per pound of body weight, (3) fill the rest with a variety of carbs, (4) get enough fiber, (5) eat plenty of fruits, veggies, meat, grains, beans, and full fat dairy for 80% of your calories, (6) fill the other 20% with what you enjoy - ice cream, cookies, cake, etc., and (7) did I mention lifting?
^^ This
Everything is ok in moderation.
Let's put it this way. I'm 34yo, 4'10, weigh 93 pounds and I eat more than you. Please, eat more food.0 -
No Im going to just start back over again with the foods and just get the normal versions instead of the healthier versions of the food and Im still going to avoid fried foods because I cant have that in moderation. I will go overboard. I will start this out tomorrow and see how everything goes. and yes ill try to eat at 2000 cal0
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No Im going to just start back over again with the foods and just get the normal versions instead of the healthier versions of the food and Im still going to avoid fried foods because I cant have that in moderation. I will go overboard. I will start this out tomorrow and see how everything goes. and yes ill try to eat at 2000 cal
Well played, sir. Well played. :drinker:0 -
No Im going to just start back over again with the foods and just get the normal versions instead of the healthier versions of the food and Im still going to avoid fried foods because I cant have that in moderation. I will go overboard. I will start this out tomorrow and see how everything goes. and yes ill try to eat at 2000 cal
Sounds like a fantastic plan.0 -
reg bacon and other foods have transfat Im trying to lose bodyfat and that could affect that
I think you're confusing trans-fats and saturated fats. Saturated fats occur naturally in many animal products - milk/butter/cheese, meat (bacon), etc. You want to limit saturated fats, but some are still fine. Trans-fats are generally from processed foods or fried foods, although many fast food places are moving to non-trans fat oils. Basically, vegetable oils that are naturally liquid at room temperature changed to be solid instead are trans-fat (margarine is a good example). Trans fats are bad, you want to avoid them as much as possible.
But all the foods listed are okay. And nuts, avocado, olive oil, etc are unsaturated fats, which are healthy in moderation - you NEED them.
I have to admit, I cannot understand how it is so hard to eat 1500 calories a day or more. I eat a relatively healthy, balanced diet and have to really be aware to eat under 1600 calories (I'm also female and almost twice as old as the OP). There are a lot of foods out there that are healthy and have enough calories (not just fat, but protein as well) to easily put you over 1200-1500 calories.0 -
No Im going to just start back over again with the foods and just get the normal versions instead of the healthier versions of the food and Im still going to avoid fried foods because I cant have that in moderation. I will go overboard. I will start this out tomorrow and see how everything goes. and yes ill try to eat at 2000 cal
Stop with the "normal" vs "healthier" junk. Low fat versions of food are NOT "healthier".
You do not have to avoid anything. Sugar is not evil. Fat is not evil. Ignore people who say you HAVE to cut out specific foods.0 -
Set calories to maintenance.
Set your macros such that you have certain minimum protein and fat per day.
Make sure you reach your calorie goal.(or average that much in a week)
Lift heavy. :flowerforyou:
I wish i was that tall, just so i could eat more.
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Right now Im trying to eat at 2,200 check my diary but its so hard holy crap feels like I ate a balloon.
Wish I had that problem. Even eating relatively healthy, I could eat 2k every day!!!0 -
Set calories to maintenance.
Set your macros such that you have certain minimum protein and fat per day.
Make sure you reach your calorie goal.(or average that much in a week)
Lift heavy. :flowerforyou:
I wish i was that tall, just so i could eat more.
No its minus 300 Im going for a calorie deficit so I can lower Bodyfat%0 -
Egads.
In...
...to catch up later.0 -
Right now Im trying to eat at 2,200 check my diary but its so hard holy crap feels like I ate a balloon.
I wish. 3250 a day right now and I'm never full.0 -
No Im going to just start back over again with the foods and just get the normal versions instead of the healthier versions of the food and Im still going to avoid fried foods because I cant have that in moderation. I will go overboard. I will start this out tomorrow and see how everything goes. and yes ill try to eat at 2000 cal
Stop with the "normal" vs "healthier" junk. Low fat versions of food are NOT "healthier".
You do not have to avoid anything. Sugar is not evil. Fat is not evil. Ignore people who say you HAVE to cut out specific foods.
Agreed look you need to move past the notion that there is good foods and bad foods because there is no such thing... Sugar is not evil and the worst thing you can do is build a bad relationship with any food... I started this journey back 4 years ago unable to walk, trapped in my house and eating myself to death... but from the get go I ate 2500 calories a day and within 6 months was up to 3000 calories and lost the vast majority of my 300+ lbs. eating over 3000 calories a day. No food is off limits in my home, i have a macros slit of 50/25/25 and I will eat beef, poultry, pork, veggies, fruits, grains, and yes triple chocolate cupcakes, ice cream, pizza,chips, as long as I am hitting my caloric intake and macros then I can and will lose weight or maintain weight (in maintenance right now at 4000 calories a day). A 19 year old kid should not be eating less than 1000 calories a day ever...... I have a snack twice a day of 1/2 cup of almonds and a glass (2 cups) of 1% chocolate milk (both very healthy food items) and those two snacks total 1360 calories and those are just small snacks.... So if you want some sound advice quit labeling food good or bad and double your intake and get in the weight room... Best of Luck0 -
Looking at your ticker you started at 240 lbs. So yes, the advice you got when you were that heavy is going to be different than the advice you get now. What is your eventual goal weight? I would think you are probably there or even less than it. Body recomposition is completely different than just losing weight. Do you want to gain more muscle or just keep the muscle you have and lower body fat? it is very hard to do both at the same time (gain muscle and lose fat. but, you can keep muscle and lose fat). You need to eat for nutrition.
Yeah, you've done an awesome job shedding excess poundage... You don't need to go back to your old ways, and junk food all the time, but if you are feeling full on such small amounts of food, I have to wonder if your body has not hit a plateau...like maybe you are already in starvation mode. I agree with the people saying you can eat higher calorie healthy foods... avocado, certain nuts, certain grains- barley-... A good sushi roll with the right things in it can be a well rounded meal and also keep you full and satisfy your calorie needs for a meal. Just don't starve yourself, because in the end, not only is it not healthy, it's not sustainable! Most of us say this because we care!0 -
No Im going to just start back over again with the foods and just get the normal versions instead of the healthier versions of the food and Im still going to avoid fried foods because I cant have that in moderation. I will go overboard. I will start this out tomorrow and see how everything goes. and yes ill try to eat at 2000 cal
If something is low fat/ no fat, that does not mean it's healthier. It has less calories... There is absolutely nothing wrong with whole dairy, eggs with the yoke, etc.
You really need to do some research (or just listen to the people in this thread, giving you sound advice), before you harm yourself.0
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