Became a vegetarian today, help!
autumnpennell
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Hi guys!
So I've been contemplating for a long while veganism an becoming a vegetarian and such. I truly believe vegans live healthier lifestyles and finally yesterday I made the commitment to change my lifestyle.
I am a meat lover, I'll admit, but yesterday I was skinning some fresh chicken and it was absolutely disgusting. Now I know when meat is prepared for me already, then it will still look appetizing, but I am choosing to say no to meat. I just truly believe vegetarians are healthier than meat eaters and I want to be healthy ad young looking for as long as possible that I should be!
I would eventually like to completely be vegan, but I do realize that the transition is quite difficult and more time and thought consuming, but that Is y ultimate goal.
Although today wa day 1, and Ido love meat, I did not eat a lot of it anyhow before I made the switch.
I am posting this for any tips and advice someone might have for me!
Thanks!
So I've been contemplating for a long while veganism an becoming a vegetarian and such. I truly believe vegans live healthier lifestyles and finally yesterday I made the commitment to change my lifestyle.
I am a meat lover, I'll admit, but yesterday I was skinning some fresh chicken and it was absolutely disgusting. Now I know when meat is prepared for me already, then it will still look appetizing, but I am choosing to say no to meat. I just truly believe vegetarians are healthier than meat eaters and I want to be healthy ad young looking for as long as possible that I should be!
I would eventually like to completely be vegan, but I do realize that the transition is quite difficult and more time and thought consuming, but that Is y ultimate goal.
Although today wa day 1, and Ido love meat, I did not eat a lot of it anyhow before I made the switch.
I am posting this for any tips and advice someone might have for me!
Thanks!
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please document the statement that "vegetarians are healthier than meat eaters..."0
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I just have to say this. Vegetarians/vegans are not inherently healthier than omnivores. You can be vegan and eat oreos, pop tarts, chips, breads, cakes, biscuits, etc. You still have to make healthy choices. Meat/animal by-products don't immediately make a person unhealthy. I've met plenty of obese vegetarians and fit and healthy meat eaters. It's all about the food choices you make, not just the diet you choose to follow.0
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Sorry I quickly through this post together, I don't have w documet that says they are healthier just my personal opinion. Also, obviously it depends what exactly you put into your body, I've just noticed people who have cut meat out d their diets for years tend to look much much younger in old age, and that and other reasons is why I made the seitch0
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I would suggest paying close attention to your macros and make sure you get enough protein and fats to keep you full and help with your weight loss. If it gets difficult for you, you could try to wean yourself off slowly making some days entirely vegetarian but having a little meat now and then. There are some good meat substitutes made by Morning Star, the woman I work for is a vegetarian so I've tried all sorts of *fake* meats and I like theirs the best. I myself don't see anything wrong with eating meat but if that what you really want to do good luck!0
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I will just say that either option is healthy as long as you make good choices and eat in a deficit....If you are a vegetarian and eat over maintenance you will still gain weight...0
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Going vegetarian won't make you healthy. You can eat lots of vegetarian food and still be in poor health. In my personal opinion, unless you have a moral reason for going vegetarian, it won't be an easy road, nor healthier.0
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Going vegetarian won't make you healthy. You can eat lots of vegetarian food and still be in poor health. In my personal opinion, unless you have a moral reason for going vegetarian, it won't be an easy road, nor healthier.
This ^^^^^^^
I am a wannabe vegetarian. I just can't seem to avoid eating meat. I like it, and it's everywhere. I eat vegetarian dishes when it suits me. I am going to Hell.
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I just have to say this. Vegetarians/vegans are not inherently healthier than omnivores. You can be vegan and eat oreos, pop tarts, chips, breads, cakes, biscuits, etc. You still have to make healthy choices. Meat/animal by-products don't immediately make a person unhealthy. I've met plenty of obese vegetarians and fit and healthy meat eaters. It's all about the food choices you make, not just the diet you choose to follow.
Now that is out of the way here is some helpful info...
http://www.savvyvegetarian.com/articles/plant-food-protein-chart.pdf
I recommend you join this group for support and suggestions...
Happy Herbivores-http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/45-happy-herbivores
Also recommend you get a B12 supplement and Google nutrients that are somewhat difficult to obtain in your new life style choice.0 -
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Vegetarianism/veganism is fine. Not for me, but perfectly healthy if you plan right. Go buy a copy of the Veganomicon. Sometimes it is really easy to get overwhelmed with the amount of planning that goes into a vegan diet, but from your profile pic it looks like you have at least some knowledge about how to properly feed themselves.
Don't worry about everyone taking things personally. I'm not a vegan, I actually don't feel to well when I do it. However I have friends who live very well as vegans. Just make a plan every day, and keep track of how you feel. Cook lots and try not to eat out too much in the beginning. That can lead to some nasty habits... Also, try not to rely on too many "meat substitutes," such as fake ch'kn nuggets and "beef crumbles." Many of them contain high amounts of either hydrogenated fats and MSG in the form of autolyzed or hydrolyzed ingredients. I suggest keeping your foods whole as a vegan.
Good luck and happy veggie picking!0 -
Sorry I quickly through this post together, I don't have w documet that says they are healthier just my personal opinion. Also, obviously it depends what exactly you put into your body, I've just noticed people who have cut meat out d their diets for years tend to look much much younger in old age, and that and other reasons is why I made the seitch0
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Going vegetarian won't make you healthy. You can eat lots of vegetarian food and still be in poor health. In my personal opinion, unless you have a moral reason for going vegetarian, it won't be an easy road, nor healthier.
^^ This.
Cutting out meat on moral and ethical grounds is one thing but if you're just doing it because you think you'll automatically become healthier then think again. There are plenty of unhealthy vegetarians (I used to be one of them). If you love meat then there is no reason why you can't incorporate it into a healthy diet.
That said, there are plenty of meat alternatives out there you can try. Most people take some time to adjust to them because they are different from meat and it's best you don't compare them to it. Be mindful of making sure you get adequate iron and B vitamin intake - you may find it necessary to supplement these and also watch you get enough protein - it's easy to eat a very carb heavy diet when vegetarian, lots of rice, pasta, bread etc as there is a void to fill on the plate where meat used to be. Good protein sources are:
eggs / egg whites
cheese
cottage cheese
Greek yoghurt
Fromage frais
Tofu
seitan
Quorn
nuts and seeds
beans and pulses
quinoa
brown rice
peas
protein powders - whey, casein, hemp, pea, rice, etc.0 -
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I was a vegetarian for 15 years, and a vegan for 5 years. I recently went back to fish and poultry. I became a vegetarian when I was a teenager, for "health reasons." Whatever that meant, at the time. The reason I went back, is because I was NOT healthy. I lived on carbs, and although I'm sure you will say you won't do that, it is very hard NOT to live a very high carb lifestyle. There is nothing wrong with carbs, in my opinion, but for me, the high carb and sugar content, and very low fat, made me low energy and constantly hungry. I also became anemic and lost a lot of hair. The last few years of being a vegetarian, I ate very healthy - lots of beans, complex carbs, healthy fats, and occasional soy protein. I wasn't overweight at the time, but I was definitely not healthy, and I definitely didn't feel well. Also, I found that being a vegetarian often put a damper on my social life. I was always telling people that I couldn't eat this or that, and I felt that it made people uncomfortable. I am not trying to change your mind, because I think if you want to try it, you should go for it, but I think it's okay to think of it as a trial period. You may find that cutting too many things from your diet, only defeats the purpose of trying to live a healthy lifestyle. Just my 2 cents. Good luck, and enjoy the challenge.0
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I became a vegetarian, because my bowel can't digest meat (funnily enough chicken is way worse then red meat for me) at the moment and I need to be meat free for at least a year, before I could try to reintroduce it. So far I seem to be doing okay with it, although my protein levels are low (allergy to soy cuts out varies things there) I am working on that.
Anyway, there was a BBC documentary of 'How to live to be a 100' and in that they introduced a community of 7th day Adventists, who had a higher then average life expectancy and aged better then the average American and one of the defining differences was that they ate a vegetarian diet, exercised moderately, and didn't smoke or drink. Since it wasn't a scientific study, you can't conclude that it is necessarily better for you. Having said that, give it a go and see where it goes. If you don't feel right with it, you can always pick up a steak. It's not like once you make that decision it is unchangeable. Good luck :-)0 -
Read "Eat to Live' and "Forks over Knives"
Watch Earthlings a documentary on You tube.
These will help strengthen your convictions.
Remember there will always be those who will oppose. Just do your own thing.0 -
Thank you! This is what I was looking for in this post! Thanks so much0
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Thanks! I've already watched Forks Over Knives (my life changer) Food Inc, Food Matters, and Vegucated, and I am thoroughly convinced, and I don't care what there think! I'm surprised so many people are defensive on this issue. Thank you!0
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Hi guys!
So I've been contemplating for a long while veganism an becoming a vegetarian and such. I truly believe vegans live healthier lifestyles and finally yesterday I made the commitment to change my lifestyle.
I am a meat lover, I'll admit, but yesterday I was skinning some fresh chicken and it was absolutely disgusting. Now I know when meat is prepared for me already, then it will still look appetizing, but I am choosing to say no to meat. I just truly believe vegetarians are healthier than meat eaters and I want to be healthy ad young looking for as long as possible that I should be!
I would eventually like to completely be vegan, but I do realize that the transition is quite difficult and more time and thought consuming, but that Is y ultimate goal.
Although today wa day 1, and Ido love meat, I did not eat a lot of it anyhow before I made the switch.
I am posting this for any tips and advice someone might have for me!
Thanks!
I've read lots of books/sites on this, because I was also looking for the optimal diet for better health and longevity of life. One of my favorite books is from Dr. Fuhrman and is called Eat to Live. Highly recommend it (I got it from the library). However, while he advocates a whole foods, plant based diet, he also acknowledges that statistically/scientifically, those who eat a mostly whole foods, plant based diet but still eat a bit of meat and dairy, do just as well as those who totally cut it out. It's not so much what you eliminate from your diet, but what you add/include-and that's lots of veggies, especially the dark leafy green ones, and then fruit and other whole foods (whole grains, nuts seeds etc). He recommends a 90/10 rule (90 percent of your diet is focused on whole/plant foods, 10% is up to you-if you like cheese or a steak, include it here, or a bag of m&ms ).
I now eat a mostly whole foods, plant based diet and love how I eat. I haven't eliminated any food group totally from my diet, but I have reduced my meat and dairy consumption to a couple times a week. I'm in maintenance and I love Michael Pollan's saying 'Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.' That sums up my entire maintenance plan and it's working great0 -
As a long time vegan, congrats... do what you think is best. That said... educate the hell out of yourself. Vitamin deficiencies are no joke and you need to adjust your diet accordingly to make sure that you are getting the micro nutrients that you need. Macros are important, but micros are also important.
The book suggestions are great. I would add "The Vegan Sourcebook" as it addresses many of the micro nutrient issues. "Vegan Bodybuilding and fitness" as it addresses many challenges with a plant based diet and fitness and "Thrive" for the same reasons.
Eating a plant based diet is not hard after you have your adjustment period, but it will take some research. All of the documentaries listed are great and many of them are available on Netflix.
Google will be your friend as there are many plant based resources... find some good blogs and websites to help you out. Google things like "plant based diet", "vegetarian blogs", "vegan blogs", "vegetarian fitness", etc and look through the results. You are guaranteed to find something useful.
Good luck and feel free to add me if you want a friend/support.0 -
I'm surprised so many people are defensive on this issue.
My sister is vegan, has been for nearly 20 years. She's healthy, but she's also a vegan chef so she's cooking all the time and aware of her macros. We live on opposite sides of the US now but for a few years we lived in the same city and I was vegetarian, but not healthy. I eat whatever I want now and am healthy.
My opinion/obersvation is most vegan's conviction comes from animal welfare. I "became" vegetarian during a time my work responsibilities took my "inside" commercial chicken, turkey, and hog farms and processing plants. I try not to think about that anymore. Chicken wings and Carolina BBQ won't kill you.0 -
I'm surprised so many people are defensive on this issue.
My sister is vegan, has been for nearly 20 years. She's healthy, but she's also a vegan chef so she's cooking all the time and aware of her macros. We live on opposite sides of the US now but for a few years we lived in the same city and I was vegetarian, but not healthy. I eat whatever I want now and am healthy.
My opinion/obersvation is most vegan's conviction comes from animal welfare. I "became" vegetarian during a time my work responsibilities took my "inside" commercial chicken, turkey, and hog farms and processing plants. I try not to think about that anymore. Chicken wings and Carolina BBQ won't kill you.
I believe many of those videos are extremely bias and do not show the videos of humane slaughtering houses such as the ones temple grandin manage and helped develop
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I just have to say this. Vegetarians/vegans are not inherently healthier than omnivores. You can be vegan and eat oreos, pop tarts, chips, breads, cakes, biscuits, etc. You still have to make healthy choices. Meat/animal by-products don't immediately make a person unhealthy. I've met plenty of obese vegetarians and fit and healthy meat eaters. It's all about the food choices you make, not just the diet you choose to follow.
You beat me to this.
I have a friend who is a vegetarian. Lives on mashed potatoes, mac'n'cheese, and desserts. How is this healthier?0 -
Here for the tips as well, I just starting eating vegetarian about 2 weeks ago and am trying my best to eat at least mostly vegan for now.0
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To clarify, WHOLE FOODS plant-based choices are documented as being better for you insofar as cholesterol, heart issues and some cancers. The other posters are absolutely correct -- just because it's "vegan" doesn't mean it's healthy. Potato chips are vegan. Not looking for a fight here, FYI. (See The China Study book, Forks Over Knives and Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead if you want resources on studies.)
If you need a good cookbook, the China Study Cookbook is good, as is Dr. Neal Barnard's Get Healthy Go Vegan Cookbook.
Also the Happy Herbivore has some great recipes online.
Good luck to you!0 -
Read "Eat to Live' and "Forks over Knives"
Watch Earthlings a documentary on You tube.
These will help strengthen your convictions.
Remember there will always be those who will oppose. Just do your own thing.
Sorry,but no. They are simply propaganda. I prefer peer-reviewed scientific nonsense.0 -
First of all, congratulations! It can be a tough decision to go meat-free, and if you fuel your body the right way, a vegetarian diet can be extremely rewarding.
I've been a vegetarian for about 10 years now, so let me know if you need any recipe suggestions/recommendations on how to get enough protein, etc.0 -
I read this book cover and changed the whole way I think about food. It's the Idiot's Guide to Plant Based Eating. ---
http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Idiots-Guide-Plant-Based-Nutrition/dp/1615641017
It explains what your body needs and how to feed yourself properly without having to eat meat, if you don't want to.
I don't believe it's inherently unhealthy to eat meat, but if you don't want to, you have options. You can stay healthy and follow your convictions.
Try it out if you want, but don't let a fad dictate how you care for your body. Meat fell out of my life slowly over a period of several years as I just slowly didn't feel comfortable eating it any longer as I explored my feelings about it.0 -
It's amazing how many conversations you'll have over meat eating as soon as you say you're a vegetarian or vegan.
Anyway, good luck! As already mentioned, educate yourself, take B12, and try to eat whole foods, not processed junk to be healthy. Forks over Knives, The China Study and Veganomicon are all good sources of info. Other sources to look out for include Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease, and The Engine 2 Diet. I don't know yet if I really truly believe that you have to cut out oil to be healthy, as mentioned in some of the books, but then, I'm still overweight, so maybe there is something to it.0
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